All in One Spray (UPDATED)

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So I tried the homemade styling lotion today. On the plus side, my hair is very soft, shiny and not producty--much nicer feeling than the last few days (I have been going a little crazy with the gel--Lorraine recommends 1 tablespoon and that seems to be a lot for me, especially since I am using BRHG). Today I conditioned with Suave M&H, rinsed partially out with head upside-down, raked one puddle of the styling lotion into my dripping wet hair and scrunched in another 1 or 2. I plopped immediately for 15 mins. or so and then diffused with my head upside-down, leaning to the left, leaning to the right, etc. per the tips on the Jessicurl web site. I tried to diffuse to "75% dry" as it recommends, but this is hard to gage and I think I didn't dry enough.

Unfortunately, I sweat a lot and it is extremely uncomfortable for me to blow hot air on myself for a relatively long period of time by diffusing, then walk around with a damp, clammy head with hair hanging in my face (it will not stay out of my face, especially when wet, for anything), so this would have to work really really well for me to want to do it. :x Honestly I preferred when I used to blow-dry it straight because I could blast the hot air for just a few minutes and then my scalp would be nice and dry and I could start to feel cooler. But I really want curly hair, so anyway...

On the minus side, though I was much better than usual about not touching my hair until dry, it still frizzed up. The curls seem OK from a definition standpoint but I would say straighter than usual. I used aloe vera gel instead of hair gel in the recipe so perhaps this has something to do with it.

On the whole I would say my hair feels nice, but I need quite a bit more hold and the amount of curl seems worse than what I get with plain gel. I wonder if, as musica_al found, the components I'm using just don't work well, as I had trouble getting them to dissolve (per my above post) too. I guess I will keep experimenting...
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Back on CG (OK, I'm a little indecisive).
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Currently using: Whole Foods 365 Herbal Mint Conditioner (co-wash), MOP Mixed Greens Conditioner, Paul Mitchell Lite Detangler, CK, ISO Bouncy Creme. Gave up on plopping due to tangles/"stickiness" and now I just comb through products and diffuse. It looks basically as good and dries a lot faster (I wasn't getting good clumps from plopping anyway). Still wish I were a lot curlier!
I'm beginning to realize that the weather plays a big part in if this spray works well or not (and in what ingredients I use). The first day I used the spray with the aloe as gel, it was ok. The next few days after that, the temperature and humidity rose much higher and all I got was lots of poofy frizz. I had a partial batch of spray made using regular gel so I dumped both batches together and shook it well. Today my hair is holding up to the humidity much better. It seems that in summer my hair needs more hold than aloe can give (and maybe less moisturizing). I'm going to use up the combined batches. After that, depending on the weather at the time, I'll use gel, try using aloe alone again, or maybe some combo of the two.
Chin length 3A Prodcuts: Burt's Bees More Moisture Shampoo/Conditioner; All in One Spray ; searching for ideal styling products
I am excited! I got a compliment on my hair today. A customer said she liked my hair! And this in the hottest, most humid day yet! The combo of the batch with aloe and the batch with gel seems to be holding. I have also been leaving in more conditioner than usual.

Finally something that holds up to humidity!
Chin length 3A Prodcuts: Burt's Bees More Moisture Shampoo/Conditioner; All in One Spray ; searching for ideal styling products
Nothing special for me

I'll try again tomorrow but it only supposed to be hotter.

also this seems to clog my pump, what should i do?
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also this seems to clog my pump, what should i do?
Originally Posted by embudini
Are you using this straight from the refrigerator? If so, it may be too cold to spray. I usually keep the main batch in the fridge and a small batch in the bathroom. The only other thing I can think of, it may depend on the gel/conditioner you are using. It may be too thick to dissolve.

Due to the summer, I've updated my recipe. I took out the honey and oil since my hair does not need them now. Plus I have raised the gel amounts.

1 cup hot water, 2 tbsp. conditioner,
cup hair gel, cup aloe vera gel,
2 tsp. Epsom salt, tbsp herbal oil (optional if needed)
Chin length 3A Prodcuts: Burt's Bees More Moisture Shampoo/Conditioner; All in One Spray ; searching for ideal styling products
Musica_al, I made up a new batch of this today and used it for second day hair. My hair is definitely curly, but doesn't feel very good. I think it may be the Epsom salt (plus gel from yesterday). It feels like I have been swimming in the ocean.
Maudie
Musica_al, I made up a new batch of this today and used it for second day hair. My hair is definitely curly, but doesn't feel very good. I think it may be the Epsom salt (plus gel from yesterday). It feels like I have been swimming in the ocean.
Originally Posted by Maudie
I have never used it to try second day hair. I must shower daily just to feel awake and refreshed so I have no experience on this. Plus I live in the midwest so don't have any experience with 'ocean hair'. It may be too much salt for your hair. I'd suggest experimenting with amounts to see what works for you.
Chin length 3A Prodcuts: Burt's Bees More Moisture Shampoo/Conditioner; All in One Spray ; searching for ideal styling products
I shower daily, too , but I do get tired of daily CO'ing and soaking my hair every day. After you swim in the ocean (and before you wash it) you hair dries with this sort of salty coating on it. It doesn't necessarily feel dirty, just salty. So, I'm assuming it's the E. salt. You're right; I'm going to go with only 1T salt next time. But it sure does give you curls, doesn't it?
Maudie
what kind of gel do you recommend in the all-in-one?
also this seems to clog my pump, what should i do?
Originally Posted by embudini
Are you using this straight from the refrigerator? If so, it may be too cold to spray. I usually keep the main batch in the fridge and a small batch in the bathroom. The only other thing I can think of, it may depend on the gel/conditioner you are using. It may be too thick to dissolve.

Due to the summer, I've updated my recipe. I took out the honey and oil since my hair does not need them now. Plus I have raised the gel amounts.

1 cup hot water, 2 tbsp. conditioner,
cup hair gel, cup aloe vera gel,
2 tsp. Epsom salt, tbsp herbal oil (optional if needed)
Originally Posted by musica_al
I haven't been keeping it in the refrigerator. I figured out the problem, I used the same amount of gel as condish I use suave coconut condish and Herbal essences HDG by the way
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Fotki UPDATED! 12-14-2007
3A-3B layered-longer-than-shoulder-length-not-really-CG
Former Tween Scene Columnist
I tried this, and so far don't like it. I used less than half the oil called for, and it still left my hair greasy. (My hair is fine, and not dry.)
It did make my hair curl up a bit more at first, but then it left my hair feeling dry and "fried", (yes, at the same time it was greasy.) It was a strange two days.

I may try again with a revised version, (no oil, less salt) but I have had too many bad hair days lately, and I need to feel normal again for a while.
Laura
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CG since Aug '06 ~ (mostly )
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Now that its colder, how do you change the recipie. When I clicked on the cold weather version, I got a screen that said this post cannot be found.
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Currently: Trying to stop straightening so much. Using Elucence conditioner and whatever works for me.
sorry not to reply sooner (I had a baby!) The links in the first post were recipes I used to create this one. They are not my recipes. When I posted this the links were correct and accurate. It is possible they have been moved or deleted from this website. Again, though they were not my recipes. The one in the original post (and possibly any alterations in the replies following) are the only ones I created!

Thanks!

Just to mention: I have actually gone back to using the Got2B Gel2Mousse recently. Because of the baby I haven't had much time to make any batches or tweak it because of the cold weather. That is the only downside of this recipe- it seems to require constant tweaking as my hair or the weather changes. Can't seem to find that 'perfect' combination of ingredients. The Got2B Gel2Mousse is my old HG standby.
Chin length 3A Prodcuts: Burt's Bees More Moisture Shampoo/Conditioner; All in One Spray ; searching for ideal styling products
Actually I don't know what the lemon juice is for. It was in the original recipe I found on the recipe board (by Halfwavy Half Curly). I ended up leaving it out because I couldn't explain it and I haven't noticed any difference. Maybe someone else knows what it does??
Originally Posted by musica_al

The lemon juice adds acidity which helps to tighten the curl (so it helps make the hair shinier).

They say that "like minds think alike", I have a bottle of the Africa's Best Oil in my fridge, had almost forgotten about it until you mentioned it, lol!

A NOTE about the salts: in years past when we passed this recipe around (I too doctored up another one I found, lol, so it keeps evolving with time!) some people's hair didn't like that much salt so I think the recipe I posted said to start out with 1/2 tsp. of each (or 1 of E.S.).

As for the "tweaking", I think it's inevitable because the needs of our hair literally change with the weather. My feeling is that during the winter oils have a protective role and honey is probably better during the summer because it HOLDS moisture, I read posts of some people saying during this season it's preventing their hair from drying.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
Musi-Cal

I haven't tried the recipe yet, but I just wanted to say congratulations on your new little one!

Take care,
Sherry
Made a batch tonight and love, love , love it! I added a little bit of re-coil to the formula. I figured since I usually only use a pea-size, why not put a little in the all-in-one to water it down. I then scrunched in a little HESMU after I sprayed. Results=great curl formation!(however I do have some frizz) I'll try and tweak the recipe a bit next time to make my hair a little smoother. Any suggestions?
Member since 2001;back with new name. 3a/b. Current faves and routine:very little pink boots,HEBE , smooth and scrunch with L'Oreal Weather or Not.
Does anyone have problems with Fruit of the Earth aloe vera curdling when mixed with conditioner? I have tried mixing it with several conditioners, including VO5 Freesia. Why is it acting like that?

And has anyone used Jessicurl TooShea! conditioner or Elucence Moisture Balancing Conditioner in this spray? How did it work in comparision to VO5 or something lighter like that?
I'm very excited! I came up with a spray that does it all (for my hair). I have taken elements and ingredients from many recipes on this board and now I have a spray that is a Leave in Conditioner, Curl Enhancing, and Spray Gel. I used this today by itself and it is just perfect for me. Good curl definition, low frizz, and just enough hold!
Originally Posted by musica_al
Thank you for this recipe! I have had several compliments on my hair today using this spray. My hair is very short (no more than 3 inches at its longest) and somewhat curly (maybe 2C). The spray helps with definition, hold and shine!

Kudos to you!
I want to say for the benefit of other fine-haired curlies that I think it's necessary to reduce the amount of CO to half and drastically cut back the amount of oil - maybe to just a few drops. The oil may be substituted by 2-3 drops of vegetable glycerin*, and even the salts should be reduced (but I already said that above...). And anyone with seriously dry hair may have to forgo the salts altogether. I only once made a simple version of this but hardly used it because the days of low humidity here in So. FL are rather few even this time of year.

*May cause fading of color-treated hair, especially reds & blondes.
2A/3A, medium length, layered, colored dark/medium ash blonde - "CGer" since April '02.

"Converting the 'curlskeptics' one curly head at a time..." HWHC
Nothing useful here...just wanted to say that I have had that experience of aloe gel curdling when mixed with conditioner! I'm guessing this is what happens when you try to mix a water-in-oil emulsion with an oil-in-water emulsion but whatever, it's very upsetting when it happens especially if you're mixing the 2 together on your head!
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