No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

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BTW, I used your method the other night, BB, and it worked great! I'm really liking this batch, I didn't even need to add any oil or AVG.
Originally Posted by opera_curls
Yay!! Glad I posted this, then!

If you're doing this for the fun of it or the cost then by all means go for it. But Jessiecurls' Rockin Ringlets potion is exactly this stuff preserved with grapefruit oil I believe. I buy it a gallon at the time and it's awesome on my 3A thinning hair.
Originally Posted by ausongbird

Also, Rockin' Ringlets has mag sulfate which some peoples hair does not tolerate well.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
Yeah - I've had JCRR, but that was actually how I found out my hair didn't like magsulfate...not in that amount, anyway. Besides - doesn't RR have glycerin, too? I can't remember anymore. Anyway, I can't use the JC stylers, so this is a much better (and CHEAPER!) option for me.
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SURE.....now that I got a great routine/product going...and typed out all my hair recipes neatly.....I now HAVE to try this!
A long time ago, I used a L'oreal product that came in a red pump bottle. I liked the slime factor of it. This sounds similar.
I've added flax seeds to my shopping list.
Thanks for the directions
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SURE.....now that I got a great routine/product going...and typed out all my hair recipes neatly.....I now HAVE to try this!
A long time ago, I used a L'oreal product that came in a red pump bottle. I liked the slime factor of it. This sounds similar.
I've added flax seeds to my shopping list.
Thanks for the directions
Originally Posted by soapaholic
*lol* Sorry - I think! You might want to check out this post I just put up, too - I added some magnesium sulfate to my last batch, and this post details the results. Just another option!

WOW!!! What a difference! *UPDATED WITH MORE PICS*
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Last edited by BotticelliBabe; 11-22-2008 at 09:37 PM.
That was FUN!
I follow your directions and it was easy.
I had no problem straining it.....the problem was pouring it. Mine was a little thicker than egg whites.
All was going well as I poured it into a 4oz bottle, then the "stream" grew bigger and slimed over the opening and plopped down the side of the bottle.....and there was NOTHING I could do to stop it! I think I lost about an ounce....funnel next time.
I LOVE the slime consistency, and I think it defrizzed even better than my watered down FOTE.
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I bought the seeds bulk at a local store. I saw they also have "golden" flax seeds. Don't know if there's a difference. I'll try them too.
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wash CV, Soap and Sundries bars
Braggs vinegar rinse
style Watered down FOTE
DT Honey/olive oil, coconut oil, unrefined shea
That was FUN!
I follow your directions and it was easy.
I had no problem straining it.....the problem was pouring it. Mine was a little thicker than egg whites.
All was going well as I poured it into a 4oz bottle, then the "stream" grew bigger and slimed over the opening and plopped down the side of the bottle.....and there was NOTHING I could do to stop it! I think I lost about an ounce....funnel next time.
I LOVE the slime consistency, and I think it defrizzed even better than my watered down FOTE.
GOOD STUFF

I bought the seeds bulk at a local store. I saw they also have "golden" flax seeds. Don't know if there's a difference. I'll try them too.
Originally Posted by soapaholic
Cool!!! So glad it worked for you!! I don't use a funnel when I pour, but I do whisk well when it's still hot, and my bowl is the thick plastic kind with the pour spout. When I pour it, I go REALLY slow, and I can sort of watch it swirl in the bowl and see which way the globs are going to go, so maybe that's why I can pour without a funnel.

And just to let you know, all I can get is golden flax seeds, so I can vouch for the fact that they work great for this.

Now, my next experiment is going to be getting ahold of marshmallow root and boiling that in the water, too. Of course, I will update if I can find some locally and have a chance to try it out!
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Now, my next experiment is going to be getting ahold of marshmallow root and boiling that in the water, too. Of course, I will update if I can find some locally and have a chance to try it out!
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
Actually, for marshmallow root, the best way to decoct it is cold over several hours. When I make marshmallow/flax gel, I let the marshmallow sit in the water overnight, then strain the liquid and use that to boil my flax seeds. It works great.
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Now, my next experiment is going to be getting ahold of marshmallow root and boiling that in the water, too. Of course, I will update if I can find some locally and have a chance to try it out!
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
Actually, for marshmallow root, the best way to decoct it is cold over several hours. When I make marshmallow/flax gel, I let the marshmallow sit in the water overnight, then strain the liquid and use that to boil my flax seeds. It works great.
Originally Posted by rhosyn_du
Oh good - I'm glad you told me that, because I've never used marshmallow before. Do you use it to provide slip in your FSG, or for something else? My hope was that it would provide slip, so if it doesn't, please save me money now and let me know! *lol*
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Oh good - I'm glad you told me that, because I've never used marshmallow before. Do you use it to provide slip in your FSG, or for something else? My hope was that it would provide slip, so if it doesn't, please save me money now and let me know! *lol*
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
Oh, it definitely provides slip. It also helps my hair feel more moisturized.
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Oh good - I'm glad you told me that, because I've never used marshmallow before. Do you use it to provide slip in your FSG, or for something else? My hope was that it would provide slip, so if it doesn't, please save me money now and let me know! *lol*
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
Oh, it definitely provides slip. It also helps my hair feel more moisturized.
Originally Posted by rhosyn_du
Yay!! Perfect - thank you!
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Oh, it definitely provides slip. It also helps my hair feel more moisturized.
Originally Posted by rhosyn_du
Ok, I was doing some searching at MRH on marshmallow today, and if I'm right, it looks like you can use either the roots or the leaves for this purpose. They also sell a powder, but I'd be afraid that would leave a whitish residue, so it looks like it's either the roots or the leaves. Which works better for this if you want to get as much slip as possible?
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Ok, I was doing some searching at MRH on marshmallow today, and if I'm right, it looks like you can use either the roots or the leaves for this purpose. They also sell a powder, but I'd be afraid that would leave a whitish residue, so it looks like it's either the roots or the leaves. Which works better for this if you want to get as much slip as possible?
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
I've only ever used the root, so I can't say which is better. The root definitely gives slip, though. I'm currently soaking some in aloe juice to see if it will extract decently that way. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Hey, BB! I am getting ready to try the FSG recipe in the morning and I have my marshmallow root steeping in a cup of water overnight. Do I just use this cup as my water base? Or do I add it by the spoonful to my end product?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Hey, BB! I am getting ready to try the FSG recipe in the morning and I have my marshmallow root steeping in a cup of water overnight. Do I just use this cup as my water base? Or do I add it by the spoonful to my end product?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
Well, I've never used marshmallow before (I tried to find some locally today, but no luck), but from what I gather, you use that same water to boil your flax seeds in, and that becomes your gel. I would think that if you were to add the marshmallow root liquid as an additive to the gel, it would water it down too much. rhosyn_du, please correct me if I'm wrong, since you're the one who has done this before!

And mpgirl, let us know how it works!
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Hey, BB! I am getting ready to try the FSG recipe in the morning and I have my marshmallow root steeping in a cup of water overnight. Do I just use this cup as my water base? Or do I add it by the spoonful to my end product?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
I use the marshmallow water to boil my flax seeds, and it works very well. I agree with BB that adding the marshmallow water to already made FSG would make it pretty runny, but it might actually work pretty well for a spray gel.

Also, an update on the aloe juice experiment! The marshmallow seemed to infuse pretty well into the aloe juice. I used that to boil my flax seeds, added some pectin as a thickener and some glycerin and oils because my hair likes them, and my gel is now cooling in the refrigerator. I can't wait to try it out.
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Hey, BB! I am getting ready to try the FSG recipe in the morning and I have my marshmallow root steeping in a cup of water overnight. Do I just use this cup as my water base? Or do I add it by the spoonful to my end product?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
Well, I've never used marshmallow before (I tried to find some locally today, but no luck), but from what I gather, you use that same water to boil your flax seeds in, and that becomes your gel. I would think that if you were to add the marshmallow root liquid as an additive to the gel, it would water it down too much. rhosyn_du, please correct me if I'm wrong, since you're the one who has done this before!

And mpgirl, let us know how it works!
Originally Posted by BotticelliBabe
Hey, BB! I am getting ready to try the FSG recipe in the morning and I have my marshmallow root steeping in a cup of water overnight. Do I just use this cup as my water base? Or do I add it by the spoonful to my end product?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
I use the marshmallow water to boil my flax seeds, and it works very well. I agree with BB that adding the marshmallow water to already made FSG would make it pretty runny, but it might actually work pretty well for a spray gel.

Also, an update on the aloe juice experiment! The marshmallow seemed to infuse pretty well into the aloe juice. I used that to boil my flax seeds, added some pectin as a thickener and some glycerin and oils because my hair likes them, and my gel is now cooling in the refrigerator. I can't wait to try it out.
Originally Posted by rhosyn_du
Makes sense. Well, I am starting now, so I will update later today. Wish me luck!
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I think the recipes were successful. I followed your instructions BB on the FSG but used a cup of purified water infused with marshmallow root. Also added grapefruit seed extract as a preservative and some tangerine EO. (Yummy)

I also tried the jojoba gel from Gypsycurl's recipe on youtube and consistency of that turned out just like KCCC but a little denser white. You know, a little snotty/slippery. Added rosemary and lavender EOs.

Here are the visuals. I will post again later today after I apply the products and report back.
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I have tried that recipe on the video but did not like the results. It looked a lot like KCCC but it did not work the same at all.

KCCC does not have xanthan in it and I found out that xanthan is used to make chewing gum and is drying.

So I have been playing around with pectin.
I actually cooked my marsmallow root with it and got very good results. looked and performed a lot like KCCC!

Now I just need to find the agave nectar extract.
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I have tried that recipe on the video but did not like the results. It looked a lot like KCCC but it did not work the same at all.

KCCC does not have xanthan in it and I found out that xanthan is used to make chewing gum and is drying.

So I have been playing around with pectin.
I actually cooked my marsmallow root with it and got very good results. looked and performed a lot like KCCC!

Now I just need to find the agave nectar extract.
Originally Posted by Curlygoddess
I think I saw agave nectar at my local health food store...but I think it was near the syrups, so maybe it wasn't good for hair. I'm not sure!

You realize you'll be needing to share your recipe/method for the pecin & marshmallow root mix, right? *lol*
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I think the recipes were successful. I followed your instructions BB on the FSG but used a cup of purified water infused with marshmallow root. Also added grapefruit seed extract as a preservative and some tangerine EO. (Yummy)

I also tried the jojoba gel from Gypsycurl's recipe on youtube and consistency of that turned out just like KCCC but a little denser white. You know, a little snotty/slippery. Added rosemary and lavender EOs.

Here are the visuals. I will post again later today after I apply the products and report back.
Originally Posted by mpgirl
Yay!!!!! Those look awesome! So spill - how did they work for you?
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I forgot to ask - for those of you who have been playing with marshmallow root, are you steeping that in hot, room temp, or cold water overnight before making your FSG the next day?
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