No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

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Just made my first batch of FSG using the soaking method. I soaked 1/2 c flax seeds in 1 cup of water for 2 hours. Then dumped into a pot and added 2 cups distilled water & brought to a slow boil.

I strained the mixture through a knee-hi stocking, then returned the seeds to the pot again, added more water & repeated the process. I netted about 14 ounces of gel for Dd and me. It took all of 10 minutes to make the double batch.

Thanks!
Storm BC'd 12/30/09 (my gorgeous dd), low porosity, thick density, medium-coarse texture?, elasticity ?
Mom BC'd 5/31/10, fine texture, low porosity, normal density, low elasticity
Last relaxer, July 2008
Hair Type: HUMAN
Our HGs: Hair steamer, KCCC, AOHSR, generic conditioning balm conditioner
other products:FSG, KT, EO condish, KBBHN, EWNOC, DMBC, DMDCC, NG, EVOO, Almond Oil, Maha Bhringol oil, Henna & Ayurvedic powders
Why is this not giving enough hold for me??? ugh

I mixed it with epsom salt (in the boiling water with the seeds) and then added agave nectar for hold...and it still isn't enough....

I want to be with you guys and love it!

suggestions?


3b....
not for sure about my other "stuff"
Still new and trying to get a routine
I am on my 2nd batch of this, and I really like it! However, I ended up leaving a fresh batch out of the fridge for about 24 hours. It smelled a little sour when I went to use it...yuck. Does this mean it went bad?? Or does it naturally have a sour smell that I didn't notice before?

My first batch didn't have a scent (it was purely flaxseeds), but in this latest batch, I added honey. I'm not sure if there was a weird chemical reaction there that caused the smell.

Anyone experienced this?? I hate to think that I used rotten seed gunk on my hair!!
CG Newbie! (Oct, '10)
2b/c?

Products I'm liking:
Suave Naturals Lavender Conditioner, Burt's Bees Pomegranate Shampoo and Conditioner,L'oreal Everstrong Hydrate Conditioner,FX Curl Booster Fixative Gel, and homemade Flaxseed gel!
Just purchased: Kinky Curly Curling Cream, DevaCurl No-Poo, and a Devafuser!
Honey should be fine in FSG. Honey stays good forever--don't know if it could have quickened the spoilage factor of the FSG. Depending on the weather, unpreserved FSG has a shelf life of 3-4 days. I did mine first batch with no preservative in the winter and it smelled bad at four days. If it was hot, I can imagine that it would start to smell "off" 24 hours out of the refrigerator.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Honey should be fine in FSG. Honey stays good forever--don't know if it could have quickened the spoilage factor of the FSG. Depending on the weather, unpreserved FSG has a shelf life of 3-4 days. I did mine first batch with no preservative in the winter and it smelled bad at four days. If it was hot, I can imagine that it would start to smell "off" 24 hours out of the refrigerator.
Originally Posted by kathymack

Do you freeze your FSG? I froze some of the BB FSG and haven't yet had to use it. So I would assume you just unthaw it in refrigerator and use...would that be okay?
3b, fine textured,thin and normal to high porosity.
Honey should be fine in FSG. Honey stays good forever--don't know if it could have quickened the spoilage factor of the FSG. Depending on the weather, unpreserved FSG has a shelf life of 3-4 days. I did mine first batch with no preservative in the winter and it smelled bad at four days. If it was hot, I can imagine that it would start to smell "off" 24 hours out of the refrigerator.
Originally Posted by kathymack

Do you freeze your FSG? I froze some of the BB FSG and haven't yet had to use it. So I would assume you just unthaw it in refrigerator and use...would that be okay?
Originally Posted by KarenRB53
I make large batches of FSG and freeze it in 4 oz portions. I use preservative, so don't refrigerate. I don't know if BB uses preservative, I would think she would because she ships it. If you thaw in refrigerator, it will be fine.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
Why is this not giving enough hold for me??? ugh

I mixed it with epsom salt (in the boiling water with the seeds) and then added agave nectar for hold...and it still isn't enough....

I want to be with you guys and love it!

suggestions?
Originally Posted by 4Melanie
Are you using enough? you really should pile it on, until even your hair feels a bit snotty.
euegh
2c/3a ? fine/medium iii- tons of it! FL. Suave, TTNG, CJDF co wash, GDLI
HG- FSG, CK, ReCoil, Aldi shique gelee, ACV, ccclite or fsg 4 2nd day sotc:JCNS
curl journalhttp://www.britishcurlies.co.uk/curl...iewthread/977/


Why is this not giving enough hold for me??? ugh

I mixed it with epsom salt (in the boiling water with the seeds) and then added agave nectar for hold...and it still isn't enough....

I want to be with you guys and love it!

suggestions?
Originally Posted by 4Melanie
Are you using enough? you really should pile it on, until even your hair feels a bit snotty.
euegh
Originally Posted by dandy
GREAT POINT! I didn't see the FSG love until I started to use a lot. I use minute amounts of most products, but lots of FSG. You have to hear the "squish" to know you've used enough.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I've never had flaxseed gel go bad in 3-4 days. I've had it last three weeks unrefrigerated (in winter) without a preservative. Not knowing how long it might last, I did sniff tests, and it smelled the same until the day it was definitely "off." I didn't, however, use or sniff it every day.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
I hope all the FSG experts out there can help me with the following.

I made FSG for the first time yesterday and my hair is absolutely AH-MAZING! Its shiny, soft, and defined. The best part is that I was able to use FSG alone, no other styler. And its cheap, if it all sounds too good to be true, it is! It has one not-so-major set back.

The consistency of my gel was snotty, and I know that is normal, but it was not like a runny snotty, it was just like snot where it forms its own little 'snot clumps'. It was snotty like KCCC which still runs and separates easily. Did I boil too long? I don't think my boil time even reach 5 minutes, I stopped it as soon as I saw the string hanging from my whisk. Is there anything I can add to my gel once its done cooking to help it be a little easier to apply? Please help, I love this product and would hate to have to fight with it every time I want to use it.

TIA!
3c/4a
WL (25") straightened
APL curly

Teri Laflesh's book "Curly Like Me" sits on my desk and everytime I get frustrated and an impulse tells me to shave my head, I look at it in hopes that one day my hair will graze the top of my butt.








The wiki link in my signature goes to a site that has my recipe with a lot of add ins for different things for FSG.
TIA,

Morrignu

Curl Wiki - Hair Recipies - Hair Photos

After being frustrated with a variety of products, I finally tried to make some FSG using this recipe. Making it was surprisingly easy. It was a good snotty consistency and it was hard to strain through a nylon strainer but it was easy with a pair of stockings. I've used it twice and I don't think I like it very much. I added a tbsp of AVG and a few drops of coconut oil and a few drops of lavender EO. It doesn't make my hair greasy, but it definitely makes my hair stringy. And it's super frizzy. I was hoping I could use this without adding any other gels on top... My hair also hates honey and it's very cold and dry here so I don't want to use any humectants.

I was wondering if I could mix some conditioner or SheaMoisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie in it. I'm not sure if it was the coconut oil (my hair generally loves it) or the AVG (it doesn't like this...) or if I just need to add something with more hold on top of the FSG. Any ideas?
[SIZE="1"]Fia: 2c/Coarse/ii, low-normal elasticity, low porosity.

Co-wash: Suave Naturals
RO/LI: GFTN, GVPCB
Styling: Curls Defining Moments Curl Release Serum, DevaCare Arc AnGEL, DevaCurl Set It Free, KCCC
DT/PT: GVPCB, AOHR, Coconut oil, Olive Oil, Yogurt PTs, ION Effective Care
SOTC: JCN&S

OMG I've been reading through these flax-seed threads for hours it seems, and I'm so lost! Can someone help?

I've got 3b curls - much tighter than I'd like. I don't like the look of a lot of product in my hair, but if I don't weigh it down a bit in this misty/rainy/cold Vancouver weather I frizz horribly into this big mishapen blob.

I haven't tried a ton of products but I used to use that joico joi lotion or sculpting lotion which was light enough and didn't gum up my hair. Now, I'm a little embarassed but what works best is this cheap chemically concoction from the drugstore LaCoupe frizz control curl-contouring cream. The only thing I can make out in the ingredients is glycerine. If I stretch my hair down it goes mid-back but I only use less than a teaspoon of either of these. I don't want more shine either.

My hair is a bit coarse and just turns into a big dull puff ball if I don't use anything! I need something that clumps my hair together so the curls collect though I'd like my hair to kind of flow and look a bit more relaxed (larger curls) & softer! Is that not possible using product with 3b hair?
I usually let it air dry or when I'm blow drying and gently tug at the ends to loosen curls a bit.

I'm guessing since I don't need any curl enhancement I should avoid things like seamollient, epsom salts and aloe vera gel, and just stick to a bit of oil (any suggestions of what type?) and maybe some glycerine? It seems like most of you want more curl, not less, so I thought it was time to write.

Sorry for the length, but I'm so confused and am just hoping someone could recommend what I should try first in my recipe. Thank you!
OMG I've been reading through these flax-seed threads for hours it seems, and I'm so lost! Can someone help?

I've got 3b curls - much tighter than I'd like. I don't like the look of a lot of product in my hair, but if I don't weigh it down a bit in this misty/rainy/cold Vancouver weather I frizz horribly into this big mishapen blob.

I haven't tried a ton of products but I used to use that joico joi lotion or sculpting lotion which was light enough and didn't gum up my hair. Now, I'm a little embarassed but what works best is this cheap chemically concoction from the drugstore LaCoupe frizz control curl-contouring cream. The only thing I can make out in the ingredients is glycerine. If I stretch my hair down it goes mid-back but I only use less than a teaspoon of either of these. I don't want more shine either.

My hair is a bit coarse and just turns into a big dull puff ball if I don't use anything! I need something that clumps my hair together so the curls collect though I'd like my hair to kind of flow and look a bit more relaxed (larger curls) & softer! Is that not possible using product with 3b hair?
I usually let it air dry or when I'm blow drying and gently tug at the ends to loosen curls a bit.

I'm guessing since I don't need any curl enhancement I should avoid things like seamollient, epsom salts and aloe vera gel, and just stick to a bit of oil (any suggestions of what type?) and maybe some glycerine? It seems like most of you want more curl, not less, so I thought it was time to write.

Sorry for the length, but I'm so confused and am just hoping someone could recommend what I should try first in my recipe. Thank you!
Originally Posted by LoriA
I would try just plain fsg first - add a few drops of essential oil for scent and see how your hair likes it. Then you could try adding things. HTH
UK curly

fine to medium strands, porous, medium density
CG May 2009 - low poo occasionally
Co-wash: Tresemme Naturals
Styling -Naked Curl Defining Cream, BRHG, Mop Top, FSG
Product for a good hair day: FSG or Mop Top
Hair loves protein!
http://public.fotki.com/curlyhairmichuk/
new pics added Jan 2012

Enjoying the freedom of going curly!
Duchess of Alba, Keeper of the Tartan Curls in The Order of the Curly Crusaders
Wow, I didn't realize that was an option. I'll try that. Thank you.
p.s. love your hair!
Wow, I didn't realize that was an option. I'll try that. Thank you.
p.s. love your hair!
Originally Posted by LoriA
thanks for that Post up how it goes then we can maybe help decide what you want to add if you want to add something.
UK curly

fine to medium strands, porous, medium density
CG May 2009 - low poo occasionally
Co-wash: Tresemme Naturals
Styling -Naked Curl Defining Cream, BRHG, Mop Top, FSG
Product for a good hair day: FSG or Mop Top
Hair loves protein!
http://public.fotki.com/curlyhairmichuk/
new pics added Jan 2012

Enjoying the freedom of going curly!
Duchess of Alba, Keeper of the Tartan Curls in The Order of the Curly Crusaders
I just made a batch of FSG two nights ago and got to try it today -- finally! The directions were very easy to follow -- except I let it boil too long because I kept telling myself it couldn't be done in the short amount of time it was on the stove. When I went to strain it, it was impossible, so I returned it to the pot and kept adding more water until it was a snotty consistency again, not a big ball of, well, the globby-goobery stuff it had been before. It finally came out okay. I put it in my hair today before I plopped and followed my usual hair routine. It didn't turn out that great. It's just okay looking. My hair is frizzy and not as defined as I'd like. But it does look and feel incredibly soft and healthy! It's so smooth -- I didn't think it was possible to get my hair this soft and shiny! I also liked how easily all the crunch scrunched right out. I'm going to try this with some gel over it next time and see how I like it. I used two good sized handfuls, or "scoopings." I don't know if that was enough -- it certainly felt like it, though! I'm assuming I should use less if I layer another product over it -- but how much less? If someone could help me out with this, that would be fantastic!! So far this stuff is pretty good, but I think I can get it to work better.
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10!
I soak my FSG overnight in the microwave (tends to be warm in there) so I don't actually cook the seeds. The other day when I soaked it, I figured what the heck and stuck my hands in the goo and squeezed the seed clumps. Wow did that ever help with straining it!
Southern Colorado Curly
Mix of 2s med-low porosity, med-fine texture, lots of hair
Miss Banjo,
that's it? you soaked the seeds overnight, mashed the gelle up, strained and you were good to go? id love to hear it was that easy!
For just base FSG, yep I soak it overnight. It's thick and snotty within about 18 hours. I strain it into a saucepan and heat it for a few minutes to add the other stuff. I add: hemp seed oil, vitamin E, mag sulfate, chamomile tea (1 c water & 8 tea bags), and grapefruit seed extract. After a few minutes of heating & stirring (just so it's combined) I pour into a blender start it on low, switch to medium and add xanthan gum.

That's been my base for a while now. I've tried making a nettle tea and adding but just didn't like it. I never did get around to harvesting any horsetail at the river, ah well.
Southern Colorado Curly
Mix of 2s med-low porosity, med-fine texture, lots of hair

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