No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

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For some reason JCRR doesn't have enough hold for me. I just ordered one of BB's FSG and mudd..can't wit to try them both. I also ordered some from here. Tried it out today over a leave in and wow, I'm in love!! My hair has nice volume, it's shiny, soft and defined..what else can a curly ask for? It definitely works better than my own FSG. I only used a leave in, sealed and the FSG.
3a (normal-porosity/elasticity/density)
Cleanse: CHS TS+oil, poo bars, Sevi pumpkin poo, Co-wash
LI/RO:MD RCLI, GDLI-GVPCB, DB pumpkin, Tresemmé Naturals
Stylers: LALSG, Volumax styling, CHS CK, BRHG, KCCC, Gel-les'C, JC Spiralicious, AOMM, FSG, SSCEJ

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Seems like alot of people are asking about BB's gel and recipe, so I thought I'd give this thread a bump.
That's me with FSG as my styler!!

3b. fine & thick, coarse, dry, medium porosity. Sucks up product and loves ACVs! FSG is my HG!

Currently using:
Low Poo: TJ's Refresh No Poo: CoWash w/VO-5; Sonoma Soap Company sulfate-free poo
RO: Yes to Cuc; SSC Lavender Condish; Sally GVP LI: Donna Marie Miracle D&C
Style: FSG w/Aussie Instant Freeze & CIAB
So I have spent WEEKS reading this thread and all the one it links to, and I'm pretty darned sure I didn't see my issue addressed

I've made the basic gel according to BB's recipe twice now, and have experimented using it with or without a leave-in (I get better results using a leave-in first). My issue is that my hair starts off nice and wet, the leave-in makes it slippery, and then the FSG goes in and soaks everything up and then disappears into my hair. I have used varying amounts of product (though I return to using WAY more of it than I think I should, like people keep saying to do!) and by the time I'm finished, my hair feels kind of stiff and dry (instead of wet and slimy like it was before the FSG!) I tried using FOTE AVG a few different ways, and had similar results (though much more dramatic - my hair apparently HATES AVG!)

So, does that sound like how it works for most people? Or does it sound like it means anything in particular about my hair? (I have no idea what my hair properties are, and frankly, since I'm 9 months pregnant and my hormones will continue to be out of whack for quite a while, I haven't seen the point in trying to figure it out until my body is back in balance!) I'd like to start branching off into other additives, but I'm totally overwhelmed by the options and can't figure out if I should be adding some kind of oil, to lubricate the gel? Or maybe some honey or agave, for some extra hold and shine (instead of ending up with very matte looking hair)? Or something else entirely? HELP!
I'd like to start branching off into other additives, but I'm totally overwhelmed by the options and can't figure out if I should be adding some kind of oil, to lubricate the gel? Or maybe some honey or agave, for some extra hold and shine (instead of ending up with very matte looking hair)? Or something else entirely? HELP!
Originally Posted by Kenner82
The only way you're going to find out, is to try it. I do add a little bit of oil and agave nectar to mine and my hair is always very soft and shinny.

I add my gel over my leave-in and dry with a diffuser. There is a point in the drying process where my hair does feel a bit stiff, but I just keep drying it until its done, then scrunch any crunchiness out.

P.S. Congratulations on your little one coming soon.
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Modified CG since November 2009
Low Poo - (Once in a while) True Polaris Solid Shampoo Bar
CO-wash/Condish - (I'm lazy, one step only!) True Polaris Solid Conditioner Bars
Styling - True Polaris Truly Curly Styling Gel I add 'cones in summer Truly Frizz Free Hair Serum
I plop and defuse daily


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1. I've been thinking about using aloe vera juice in my FSG; I know people add it (or aloe vera gel), but I'm wondering if anyone has boiled the flax seeds in aloe vera juice rather than water (or a 50/50 mix of aloe juice and water). Would boiling the aloe juice cause any issues?


3. I'm also considering adding citric acid as a ph balancer, but again, not sure how much? Also, if there is citric acid in the aloe juice, is more necessary?

4. I've also heard of using fruit pectin to make a gel; wondering if anyone has used this in FSG as a thickener and how that worked?

TIA!!
Originally Posted by jsuzkelley
I'm also curious about these questions, additionally, what about using unflavored gelatin instead of flax or fruit pectin? Because that's what I have on hand lol...
2a/b, high porosity, fine strands, average density, just about shoulder blade length

My hair loves moisture!

currently mod-cg , using low-poo and not totally cone-free yet. I'll get there though!
Another FSG experimenter here... so far I have just made the plain gel which I am LOVING, but still have some pesky surface frizz which just may be something I live with, but I'm wondering about adding stuff to my FSG to help...

I am very sorbitol and non-keratin protein sensitive, so I am hesitant with Agave nectar, honey, and AVG, though my hair doesn't seem to mind KCCC, which contains some/all of those things (well, aloe vera juice, at least). Anyone else with sorbitol sensitivity who has used agave or honey with some success?

I just got some Vitamin E oil so I may start there - it's mixed with safflower oil, which is fine in small quantities for me, so mixed in with the FSG it may be fine...

(does anyone else's bathroom more closely resemble a kitchen these days??)
Mod CG since 5/10, 2b/3a, med width/density, low/med porosity, greying since 18, color over grey since 21

Hair hates: non-keratin protein, glycerin, sorbitol, agave, sulfates, polyquats, co-washing (flaky scalp), maybe aloe?
Hair loves: fewer/more natural ingredients, moisture

Scalp wash: Selsun Blue naturals or reg when desperate
Low poo: Giovanni TTTT
RO: SN - Strawberry, ES
LI: SNES
Style: HETT mousse, FSG if I make it, ??
DT: GVPCB
PT: GVPKP
I made flax seed gel yesterday for the first time. First batch turned out too thick, but the second good. Tried it in my hair along with leaving in conditioner and it turned out very well. Fresh, light and good hold. (I am a 3a/b mix)

I am doing the no-poo thing, so considering how hard it is to clean a pan with dried up flax seed gel...made me wonder if it would be hard to really get out of the hair cleansing with conditioner only.. Anyone had issues with build-up?
3a, low porosity, medium & fine texture, high density...
I'm starting with no-poo this week (finally my CG products arrived ), and i've been worrying about how to get the FSG out of my hair without shampoos...
The thing is: my hair has simply fallen in love with FSG, and I don't think I could do without it anymore

Does anyone has experiences with FSG "buildup" or is it just me freaking out without reason?

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I'm starting with no-poo this week (finally my CG products arrived ), and i've been worrying about how to get the FSG out of my hair without shampoos...
The thing is: my hair has simply fallen in love with FSG, and I don't think I could do without it anymore

Does anyone has experiences with FSG "buildup" or is it just me freaking out without reason?

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Originally Posted by CurlyB_
Depending on the ingredients you use in your FSG, you shouldn't have any problems rinsing out the FSG.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I'm going to try to make this because every product I have tried seems to dry my hair out whether it be protein free or not. My hair I've realized is protein sensitive and loves to frizz or go flat. I'm hoping this will help. Are their any adds I need to consider? I was thinking a little bit if olive, not sure how much. Maybe honey, again not sure how much either. Also I've been reading about scents. What r good ones to use?


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Last edited by itskyrsten; 12-02-2012 at 05:02 AM.
2b hair. Made flax gel last week. Just flax seed and water. Turned out good.
I've been reading up on different recipes.
Any opinions on this recipe?
Also does the marshmallow root come in capsule form or is it an actual root??

1/4 cup flax seeds
2 cups water
1 tsp marshmallow root
1 tsp xanthum gum
1 tsp aloe gel
1 tsp agave or honey
Maybe coconut oil?
Or jojoba oil?

Opinions on this??


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Marshmallow root is a root. You have to steep the pieces in warm water. I know I posted my recipe in the past. Here's what I do.

There are two fairly current threads about FSG recipes. I posted mine here. What is your Flax Seed Gel recipe

I just bought a product called Sucragel AOF. According to an article by Curl Chemist last month, it's the new "it" product in skin and hair. I added 1/2 t to four oz. My hair just LOVES it. http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...-sugragel.html
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I just made my first batch of FSG! Go me!!

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(this is what I was thinking about the whole time)

I just followed the basic recipe in the first post. The first time around, I boiled them way too long and could absolutely not get them through my mesh strainer. Second time around, I timed it. I boiled them for exactly 2 min 30 seconds (from the time they started boiling). I know everyone's timing will be different, but just throwing a basic guideline out there for any newbies like me!
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2b/c, high density
fine, medium porosity, normal elasticity
loves protein, hates polyquats
still searching for HGs
I just made my first batch of FSG! Go me!!

Flubber - YouTube

(this is what I was thinking about the whole time)

I just followed the basic recipe in the first post. The first time around, I boiled them way too long and could absolutely not get them through my mesh strainer. Second time around, I timed it. I boiled them for exactly 2 min 30 seconds (from the time they started boiling). I know everyone's timing will be different, but just throwing a basic guideline out there for any newbies like me!
Originally Posted by flippacious
only 2 mins 30 seconds?! Geez! It took mine 7 minutes to get gel-like. Stupid electric glass top stove!
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Mom to a straight and a curly.


"The Longer the Hair, the Bigger the Blob."

Porous, very dense but fine hair. Medium everything else.
CoWash: Tressemee naturals
RO: Generic biolage and generic joico k-pak
LI: Tresemee
Miss Jessie's Pillow soft curls, diffuse 50%, add KCCC and diffuse to 80%.
Always wash upside down.
I haven't read the entire thread, but a good 5 or 6 pages. Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but I made mine in the microwave. I was unsure about cooking it (it sounds a little complicated for a newbie) and my sister said I could just let it sit over night and the water will turn to gel. I planned on trying that, but then I read someone said to put it in the microwave for 3 minutes, taking it out every minute and stirring. Then, after 3 minutes whisk it like crazy. Did that and it turned out great.

Here comes the fun part, I didn't have a strainer. Yeaahhh. So first I tried a sock. Didn't work. Then I was tempted to use a coffee filter. Tried some paper towel. Duuuhh didn't work. Finally I took some saran wrap, poked tiny holes in it with a needle and squeezes through some gel. It didn't take long for the holes to rip and the seeds to gush through. Anyways, this worked for me it was a very small batch for a trial try and it worked pretty well! I'm happy

My question is... do we have any party-goers here? I was wondering how well this gel holds for a night of sweaty dancing and head-banging?... I'm serious. I plan to go out tomorrow with this gel in my hair, and I would hate for it to turn into a crazy frizz ball. Anyone?
2b/c, fine, low-med porosity
Co-Wash: Live Clean Fresh Water Conditioner
Leave-In: Yes To Carrots Leave-in Conditioner
Styler: Herbal Essences Totally Twisted Curl Boosting Mousse, FSG, GF Pure Clean Gel
Does anyone know what might be the reason that my hair looks stringy on my canopy. I've used aloe juice, honey, coconut oil, EO, glycerin, epsom salt and agave syrup in my batch.

The standard recipe doesn't give me enough hold.

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My hair likes:
CJ CIAB, CJ AFL, KCCC KCNT
CJ Daily Fix

|t alsn likes JC WDT, but the smell is weird.

This is actually my third time going CG. But this time i'm trying to imbrace my waves more instead of trying to get the most curl out of them. Pretty, shiney waves should be enough

Last edited by Hollondcurl; 04-01-2013 at 10:15 AM.
Tried the recipe at the beginning of the thread and added a little conditioner and essential oil before whisking.

Used it on my hair this morning with great results! Highly recommended!

I made this today and was so excited to try. Making it was easy and I had two batches in fifteen minutes. I did straight flax seeds, no additives so I could see how my hair liked it.
However..... as it was drying, I was thrilled, but as soon as I sotc, I had a good amount of frizz and my hair just looked off. After staring at it all day, I got frustrated and rewet it this afternoon. I'll try again with Biosilk over the top of it, to help with frizz. I'm almost ready to throw in the towel on my curly journey, I just plain don't like my curl pattern, I don't think.
Curly work in progress
2C with some 3A if all the stars align
Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
No sulfates since 2009
CG since 2013

In my stash:
Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
When I redid my hair this afternoon, I used the gel again with biosilk over it. Pretty much the same result. It was less frizzy, but my hair felt pretty dry and tangly. Any tips? Everyone seems to have the exact opposite experience with the gel, I don't get it.
Curly work in progress
2C with some 3A if all the stars align
Low porosity, medium to low density and fine
No sulfates since 2009
CG since 2013

In my stash:
Shampoos and conditioners- Tresemme Naturals Low Poo, Tresemme Naturals Moisturizing Aloe, Suave Naturals Coconut
Leave Ins- Kinky Curly Knot Today
Stylers- KCCC, AG Recoil, KY Lubricant (yup), SM Curl Milk
Gels- Ecostyler, Biosilk RHG
Mousse- Devacurl Uplifting Foam, Suave Captivating Curls
When I redid my hair this afternoon, I used the gel again with biosilk over it. Pretty much the same result. It was less frizzy, but my hair felt pretty dry and tangly. Any tips? Everyone seems to have the exact opposite experience with the gel, I don't get it.
Originally Posted by Luuuuucy
Well for me it is the same. I would really like to try this stuff. But it makes my hair stringy, hard and disgusting .
Does anyone have any tips.


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Course, thick hair, low/med. porosity

My hair likes:
CJ CIAB, CJ AFL, KCCC KCNT
CJ Daily Fix

|t alsn likes JC WDT, but the smell is weird.

This is actually my third time going CG. But this time i'm trying to imbrace my waves more instead of trying to get the most curl out of them. Pretty, shiney waves should be enough

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