For some reason JCRR doesn't have enough hold for me. I just ordered one of BB's FSG and mudd..can't wit to try them both. I also ordered some from here. Tried it out today over a leave in and wow, I'm in love!! My hair has nice volume, it's shiny, soft and defined..what else can a curly ask for? It definitely works better than my own FSG. I only used a leave in, sealed and the FSG.