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Old 02-06-2009, 01:29 PM   #61
 
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Well.......there's good news and bad news. Curl formation: spectacular. Touchability: fabulous. Frizz prevention, however: on a scale of 1-10, about a 3, and that's with a dew point of 22.

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But I don't know that I used as much as I should have. I felt I used a pretty healthy amount, but I'm going to try again tomorrow and really load it on. I'm also using just the base FSG recipe ... I probably need to mess around with other ingredients to tailor something more specific for my hair type.

I'm amazed at how many FSG recipes are out there but how few of them recommend using a more substantial amount of flax seeds like BB does. These people must live where there is an average dew point of 1 ... I can't imagine this gel being even remotely effective in places like Florida with using less than what BB recommends.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:00 PM   #62
 
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Thanks BB! I'm going to give it a go some stage sooooooon!

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Well.......there's good news and bad news. Curl formation: spectacular. Touchability: fabulous. Frizz prevention, however: on a scale of 1-10, about a 3, and that's with a dew point of 22.

Drats.

But I don't know that I used as much as I should have. I felt I used a pretty healthy amount, but I'm going to try again tomorrow and really load it on. I'm also using just the base FSG recipe ... I probably need to mess around with other ingredients to tailor something more specific for my hair type.

I'm amazed at how many FSG recipes are out there but how few of them recommend using a more substantial amount of flax seeds like BB does. These people must live where there is an average dew point of 1 ... I can't imagine this gel being even remotely effective in places like Florida with using less than what BB recommends.
I've been making and using this stuff since BB posted her initial success with this recipe. It didn't de-frizz me either until I started to saturate my hair with it. Honestly, my hair is so snotty/gloppy by the time I'm done, it's gross to the touch. But the results are worth it. I'm not using anything on top of it and it keeps it's definition and shape all day
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:31 PM   #64
 
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So does your hair take a long time to dry when you put so much of the Flax seed gel in?
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@sweetiepie No. That's the best part. Once I plop, add a little more if I want, and re-plop, it dries just fine. It's soft and the curls are well defined. I like my hair to have movement. As easy as this is to make and for the cost, it's da' bomb!
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I'll throw my 2 cents in here too. I've been using only FSG for the past few weeks, experimenting with the recipe a bit, and it's been great. At first it didn't do much, but now, after I've tweaked it a bit, I can use just that. ONE HAIR PRODUCT, and I have NO FRIZZ! I don't even need a leave in, now that I've added some oil to the FSG. To start with, I use distilled water. I tried tap water, but my water is really soft and has a very high pH. I think that was messing with it's effectiveness. I add honey or agave nectar for hold, some aloe gel for curl enhancement, and a little oil for moisturizing. I love it. Even my hair stylist commented on how good my hair looked last weekend. I gave her the recipe, and she was going to try it this week. And I have a couple of curly friends coming over for FSG making lessons next week!
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I've been making and using this stuff since BB posted her initial success with this recipe. It didn't de-frizz me either until I started to saturate my hair with it. Honestly, my hair is so snotty/gloppy by the time I'm done, it's gross to the touch. But the results are worth it. I'm not using anything on top of it and it keeps it's definition and shape all day
That's exactly what I'm hoping, MP. I just finished making a ginormous batch of the stuff and I plan on piling it on tomorrow until my hair won't take any more. Which is saying something with this mop of mine
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After hearing how magical this stuff was, I just had to make it last night after my shower. It felt like slime in my hands, and I confess I put very little in.

This morning I had great curl definition, but alot of frizz. I'll put in alot more next time I use it, and see how it turns out.
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I honestly think the biggest key to getting FSG to work for you is to really pile it on. I know a lot of people have a hard time getting past the snotty/weird feeling of it, but once you do and you can just keep making yourself put palmful after palmful in your hair, you'll be rewarded with just about the nicest, softest curls you've ever seen come out of your head. *lol*

SW, I gotta say that I think it's so cool that a stylist (whom I've always thought of as product pushers, to be honest) is willing to try out something as seemingly harebrained as this is. Major kudos.
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I love the fact that everyone is trying out the recipe and tweaking it. This is so great - a simple homemade recipe and something that so many people are enjoying! I used bottled water to make mine too ... thought it was better than icky tap water (although apparently we have good water here ...). I think I will try adding oil next time too ... what kind did you use, curlykristen?
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SW, I gotta say that I think it's so cool that a stylist (whom I've always thought of as product pushers, to be honest) is willing to try out something as seemingly harebrained as this is. Major kudos.
That's sweet, BB. I'm not much of a product pusher, actually, since I've always believed not every product line works for every person. I care more that my clients follow the guidelines of good vs. bad product ingredients for their particular hair type than I care about what brand they actually use. If Suave Naturals and LA Sports Gel (or FSG, for that matter) are what gives a curly girl red carpet curls, then I believe she should rock it for all its worth

Plus, I am a complete dork...I'll try just about anything, no matter how kooky it sounds. Well, I might draw the line at sticking intestines or something equally disgusting in my hair, but other than that...I'm there
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SW isn't like most stylists, I really think she needs to fly out to the Boston area for the day and cut all of the North East curlies!!!!!!
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Boston in February? Are you mad? How about July?

Okay, round two. I have so much FSG in my hair, it is totally slimy. So let's see how it does today. I will be doing hair from 9-5 without a break, so maybe asking for no frizz at all under those conditions is a little much...but we shall see. I'm staying optimistic
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Boston in February? Are you mad? How about July?

Okay, round two. I have so much FSG in my hair, it is totally slimy. So let's see how it does today. I will be doing hair from 9-5 without a break, so maybe asking for no frizz at all under those conditions is a little much...but we shall see. I'm staying optimistic
YES I'm most certainly MAD this weather is doing a number on my hair! But hey you want to come out in July sounds good to me

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Okay, so I had to make this, too. I used a mix of the dark and light flax seeds. There is a difference with tap water and purified water. Purified/distilled is better. Tap water made the gel darker and cloudier - probably from the impurities in the hard city water.

The first time I tried the gel after a leave-in. Scrunched in maybe an ounce of FSG (which had a bit of mag.sulfate and agave added). The curls became progressively frizzy as the day went by, but not too terrible since I still got decent 2nd day hair.

The next time I tried the FSG, I globbed and brushed in about 2 oz. since that seems to be the secret - globbing it on until it feels slimy. (Could this be similar to the "seaweed" feeling during conditioning?) Wow, what a difference! It was veerrry crunchy, but once that was scrunched out, the curls were the best ever for my hair, defined, no frizz, and I had great 2nd day hair. I've made another batch to try and added some aloe vera juice. We'll see how that turns out. Homemade FSG looks like a keeper! Thanks to everyone for sharing their results, and way to go, BotticelliBabe, for perfecting the recipe!
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:47 PM   #77
 
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i'm planning on trying this flaxseed gel recipe this week. before i tried it though, i had a few questions:

do you think it would work if i added a bit of jojoba oil and a few drops of some EO for scent?

also, does this stuff do good 2nd day hair, and how does it handle diffuser-drying? i don't always have time for air-dry before my 7:30am class!

and ARE YOU SURE it doesn't weigh down even fine hair? because everyine is saying to use ALOT of it.

thanks!!
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I've made it with jojoba oil, and EO and it works great. I don't often get 2nd day hair, but I have with this stuff. And I'm SURE it doesn't weigh down my fine hair, even when I put in lots of it. I've been doing it everyday, and I have the best curls I've ever had!
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You may want to choose an EO with "antiseptic" qualities. I put some Lavendar EO and a little citric acid in mine--natural preservatives. It's lasted two weeks out of the refrigerator and still smells fine. Other antiseptic EOs are rose, clove and rosemary. I know you want to do it for scent, but it doesn't hurt if it preserves it, too!
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My turn to chime in! I'm totally new to all of this (only modified CG for 1 month), and it was so easy to make, and it turned out right! I've used it twice now (only wash every 2-3 days), and it's awesome stuff!! But I wonder if I've been using enough--ewenique's hair is only an inch or so longer than mine, and I didn't use anywhere NEAR 2 oz! Mine is still crunchy when it dries, but SOTC is easy. I've gotten lots of comments on my hair recently, too! And I looooooove how cheap it is! I'm going to try my next batch with some mag sulfate, to see if it makes me curlier.
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Does FSG hold well in higher humidity/dew points also? We had a rainy day here, and my hair is a little frizzier today, but maybe I just need to use more.
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