No-fail flax seed gel - I finally did it...TWICE!

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You may want to choose an EO with "antiseptic" qualities. I put some Lavendar EO and a little citric acid in mine--natural preservatives. It's lasted two weeks out of the refrigerator and still smells fine. Other antiseptic EOs are rose, clove and rosemary. I know you want to do it for scent, but it doesn't hurt if it preserves it, too!
Originally Posted by kathymack
earlier you had mentioned a ratio of about 6 drops/oz for grapefruit seed oil as a perservative. would you need a similar ratio of one of these EOs for that purpose? or would it be better to use grapefruit seed in that amount as the main preservative and one of the above to scent preference, just as added bonus on the preservative side?

thanks!
wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
embracing the waves since 10/20/08
my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.

Last edited by LouisianaLeigh; 02-13-2009 at 11:21 AM.
BB you are my hero! I just started CG and made my first batch about an hour ago following your directions. It was so easy to make. I added a bit of honey, FOTE(liquid), citric acid, and a touch of KY. My hair is up in a ponytail so I used a bit on my long bangs to test it out. And OMG, I cannot wait to shower in the morning and see how my hair turns out!!!


3a, dry, color treated, very thick, PCOS & Thyroid
co-wash: Suave Naturals once a week followed by ACV rinse
condition: Biomatrix Conditioning Balm (Suave knockoff) do not fully rinse
Products: perfecting my aloe juice flax seed gel formula

I think I'm going to have to play around with it a bit more since I had the same issues with my second try as my first On Saturday, I had to scrunch a bunch of Set It Free! into my hair and then use some hair spray (ugh!) to calm my hair back down by mid-morning.

I need to make one thing clear because I do think the FSG is some GREAT stuff: as a hairdresser, I labor under really brutal conditions for the typical curly girl. My head is over steamy water shampoo sinks and around hot blow-dryers, etc. for hours at a time...not the type of environment most curly girls live in (unless you are outside 24/7 in Florida in July).

Because of that, I typically have to use a ton more products in my hair when I am Tiffany the Hairdresser as opposed to when I am Tiffany the Home Girl...so, in retrospect, I don't know that it is quite fair to test the FSG under my work conditions only.

Keep it rocking, girls...I am thrilled this is working for so many of you
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Sulfate- and non-water soluble silicone-free since 04/22/2002
3B, brunette: medium texture, low porosity, high density

FSG alone does not work for me. I like it as a curl enhancer but still need more hold on top. When the humidity returns I will play around with it and add more Honey and Agave for extra hold. I'm still not sure how I feel about the Oils and Mag sulphate to counteract it. My hair has been quite a mess lately using it so I stopped did some extra DT's and it bounced back. I absolutely can not use Honey in these low dew points.
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Discovered CG 2007

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Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
Just a couple of questions..How much honey/agave do you put in for a standard batch?(1 cup water to 1/4 c flax).
Do you have to wait until completely cooled?
If I wanted to add Magnesium do I add it after boiling?
Thanks!

shoulder length long layered 2b/3a lots of it
wash: Live Clean shampoo Abba pure curl Mop c hydrating
cond: suave coconut Goldwell curly twist
Protein: Redken Extreme Cat
style: Ag:recoil Deva Mist-er right
Just a couple of questions..How much honey/agave do you put in for a standard batch?(1 cup water to 1/4 c flax).
Do you have to wait until completely cooled?
If I wanted to add Magnesium do I add it after boiling?
Thanks!
Originally Posted by sveetiepie
I've been adding between 1/4 and 1/2 tsp of honey or agave. I can handle a little more of the agave than the honey it seems. I add it right after I strain the seeds out, while it's still really hot, and whisk it all together.

And I usually add the mag sulfate to the water when I boil the seeds. I found it's less drying (for my hair at least) than if I add it to the gel after I strain it.
Mostly 3A, some 3B/2C fine-med texture/med porosity/low density

wash: alternate co-washing with V05 & soap bars
Rinse out: Rotate TJ's N&S, AOHR, LVPNG, GVP K-Pak, CJ CA Daily Condish
ACV rinses 2x/wk (high pH water)
LI: if I use one, it's usually CJ CALI CJ H&B LI, or GDLI
Styling: FSG with AVG, AN, hemp seed oil & slippery elm (winter only), KCCC, CJ CCCC, CJ SG, CJ AFG, AOMM & BRHG

Currently experimenting w/DM Miracurls CG & MM
so i whipped up a batch of the standard FSG (no additions except some grapeseed oil) this morning. actually i had to make two because i let the first one go too long and it wouldn't strain, yikes! round two came out perfectly--like egg whites in a bottle, with a golden hint. so far so good.

co-washed and used a rinse-out that doesn't usually require a leave-in after, since BB had recommended using this without a leave-in as it's pretty moisturizing. i decided to try it alone as a styler, just to see what it does on its own. when i went to rake it through, though, it made my hair squeak!

i quickly added a bit of my creamiest leave-in (bioinfusion) and the squeaking mostly stopped. but i was just wondering if anyone else has had that happen? if so (or even if not, if you have an idea) do you know what that's about?

thanks!
wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
embracing the waves since 10/20/08
my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.
i finally tried it, and i think i cooked it a little bit too long, because when i tried it the next morning, it was really hard to get through my hair. it wanted to stay all in one glob. : /. but i shook it up a lot and added some warm water and it worked way better.

i had no crunch, and a little frizz, but nothing i can't handle. YAY!

my only problem was that it didnt give me any hold really on the top. i kind of had the "a-frame" head going on. (my hair is about 3a, a little past my shoulders, and very fine...so i guess that's to be expected.)

any ideas to give it more hold? i made the original recipe, only plau a little jojoba.

thanks!
As far as amounts go-I put a "nickel size" amount in 4 sections of my hair (it's up to my BSL) for even distribution of the gel. What has been you ladies experiences with adding honey to the FSG? that will be my next kitchen concoction I suppose! The attached pic is my hair 8 hours after putting the gel on--no wet-look, or crunch-just how I like it!
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No: heating tools, sulfates, cones, parabens
Co-wash: Suave naturals (coconut and ocean breeze) Acct baking soda to clarify as needed
DC: olive or almond oil with EO rosemary
Style: Homemade flaxseed gel with aloe vera juice, epsom salt, and EO rosemary and lavender. Exploring various conditioners to use with the tightly curly method
Want to try: adding different EO's to HFSG, growing out hair
Always ISO: natural remedies for 3b curls!

...I decided to try it alone as a styler, just to see what it does on its own. when i went to rake it through, though, it made my hair squeak!

i quickly added a bit of my creamiest leave-in (bioinfusion) and the squeaking mostly stopped. but i was just wondering if anyone else has had that happen? if so (or even if not, if you have an idea) do you know what that's about?...
Originally Posted by LouisianaLeigh
I have that happen too. I can't use this without a leave-in and have tried twice with no luck. But I can use my co-wash as a leave-in. I have no idea why this would happen though.

As far as amounts go-I put a "nickel size" amount in 4 sections of my hair (it's up to my BSL) for even distribution of the gel. What has been you ladies experiences with adding honey to the FSG? that will be my next kitchen concoction I suppose! The attached pic is my hair 8 hours after putting the gel on--no wet-look, or crunch-just how I like it!
Originally Posted by namom3
I LOVE honey in this stuff. I used to use honey in a rinse I learned from DEL2C but had to stop when the dew point got low. However I've been putting about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp in my FSG and my hair loves it. I get great hold and don't have to use any other gel over the FSG. I hope this stuff works for me for summer too.
< member since 2006. No idea where 1969 came from.
eche428, I'm glad to know it's not just me. It's certainly no problem for me to pair it with a leave-in...it was just so shockingly horriblly squeaky! LOVED the dry results, though, so i think the finished product is a keeper.
wurly, fine to medium, currently growing for waist-length
embracing the waves since 10/20/08
my hair loves protein and hates jojoba oil, my scalp hates propylene glycol, my face hates silicones.
I LOVE honey in this stuff. I used to use honey in a rinse I learned from DEL2C but had to stop when the dew point got low. However I've been putting about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp in my FSG and my hair loves it. I get great hold and don't have to use any other gel over the FSG. I hope this stuff works for me for summer too.
I didn't know this! Of course, I am not the originator of this MIRACLE Summer Rinse. I just can't get this gel to work for me no matter WHAT. I intend to save this for Summer and i really think it will work FABU with extra Honey when the Humidity rises again. I'm not giving up yet but if it doesn't work in Summer either, I'm DONE with FSG!
Discovered CG 2007

2C Fia BSL/Thick/Med-Coarse/Low(crown)-Normal Porosity Protein and Oil Sensitive

Link-Spritz & Condish Washing

I'm aCurlJunkieJunky

My hair LOVES Coconut DESPISES Soap Bars


CJRehab or H&B Fix, Deva NO POO, EO Rose & Cham POO & Condish, CJ CurlFix, CJ Pattern Pusha, CJ CIAB, SS FHG, KCCC, BRHG, AG Mousse Gel, ACV Rinses,Shikakai Conditioning Hair Rinse.
I LOVE honey in this stuff. I used to use honey in a rinse I learned from DEL2C but had to stop when the dew point got low. However I've been putting about 1/4 to 1/2 tsp in my FSG and my hair loves it. I get great hold and don't have to use any other gel over the FSG. I hope this stuff works for me for summer too.
I didn't know this! Of course, I am not the originator of this MIRACLE Summer Rinse. I just can't get this gel to work for me no matter WHAT. I intend to save this for Summer and i really think it will work FABU with extra Honey when the Humidity rises again. I'm not giving up yet but if it doesn't work in Summer either, I'm DONE with FSG!
Originally Posted by DEL2C
I really hope it works for you, DEL. I love it so much. It's like a real hair miracle. But I know what you mean. I finally had to give up the idea that maybe this time FOTE will work. Just not for me.
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OK, as I'm now on garden leave after being made redundant at work, I have some time to start doing kitchen chemistry and want to make the flax gel.

The online shop I'm planning to buy ingredients from has two kinds of citric acid and two epsom salts - which do I need?

Citric Acid Granular Fine (monohydrate) OR Citric Acid Powder (anhydrous) - I'm guessing the second so it won't be gritty?

Epsom Salts (BP Grade) OR Epsom Salts (heptahydrate) - I'm guessing the second is fine if I don't plan to eat them?


Thanks!
UK curly - mostly 2c
  • Going back to basics!
  • Happily using a mixture of sulphates, cones and CG products.
  • Permanently undecided whether to cut or grow!
Currently loving:
Lush I Love Juicy shampoo
Charles Worthington frizz smoothing conditioner

Superdrug coconut & almond intensive conditioner
Montagne Jeunesse avocado & cherry bark mask
Umberto Giannini curl gel
Boots 'pink' curl creme
thanks for the bump! i am totally trying this!!!!!
OK, so after saying I was going to try this about six months ago, I finally got around to getting the ingredients and making it today.

It's really runny (practically liquid) so not sure if I just didn't cook it long enough or I'm just used to commercial gel. It was gloopy and egg whitey in the pan and whilst straining but then seemed to thin out after straining. It's still slightly warm so might thicken up some.

Will list my ingredients and give a proper verdict once I've had actually used it in my hair! I won't be too worried if it's a bit rubbish though - it's my first try after all!

Kerry xx
UK curly - mostly 2c
  • Going back to basics!
  • Happily using a mixture of sulphates, cones and CG products.
  • Permanently undecided whether to cut or grow!
Currently loving:
Lush I Love Juicy shampoo
Charles Worthington frizz smoothing conditioner

Superdrug coconut & almond intensive conditioner
Montagne Jeunesse avocado & cherry bark mask
Umberto Giannini curl gel
Boots 'pink' curl creme
Anyone try thickening the FSG with lecithin. It is a natural product that is beneficial for the hair and also acts as a thickenin agent. Other thickeners like xanthum gum, guar gum, pectin, etc seem to serve one purpose only and that is just to thicken. I was lecithin at Whole Foods the other day, just wondering if it will work in the FSG instead of xanthm gum.
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CG since 7/27/09
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CW: protein free-cleansing creme
CO: protein free MRcondish
Styler: FSG + protein free LI Elixir, Gellie, Shine & Seal Serum
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I don't know about the lecithin. I use the xanthum gum because it creates volume in the product and therefore a better consistency. It counters the snotty feeling. Not sure if the lecithin would do the same thing.
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Homemade FSG
KCCC
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BRHG


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Wow! I cant believe it took me this long to try this stuff but yesterday I whipped up a batch and used it last night. My hair looks awesome! I used a little leave-in conditioner and then applied the homemade FSG and let it totally air dry. I later scrunched out the crunch and was left with beautiful curls. I love it and I love the fact that I used so little flax seeds to make a 6 oz bottle. I put some Grapefruit seed extract in it but I am afraid to leave it out of the refrigerator for fear it will go bad. Is the GFS extract enough to prevent it from spoiling and how long is it good for in or out of the fridge? Thanks BB for that recipe and your hair is gorgeous by the way!!!
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