Homemade No-poo and One-C - Page 3

mariposa · 10-08-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by moisturemaniac

Hi Everyone!

I thought I'd post these here because they've been working wonderfully for me!

Generic No Poo

1/4 of a cup of grape seed oil
2 or more cups (dpending on how thin or thick you like your Co to be) of water
three tablespoons emulsifier (I get mine from the herbarie.com)

what to do:

in a double boiler heat the grape seed oil and emulsifier until the emulsifier has melted.
Heat water in a teakettle until boiling
add boiling water to oil mixture while stirring with a handheld blender or a wooden spoon.
The mixture should turn white immediately.
Let cool, and add preservative (I also get this at the herbarie) and essential oils/fragrance oils.

Generic One-C

Exactly the same process, just substitute oilive oil and vegetable glyercin for the grape seed oil. Since everyone's hair is diff, i think you'll need to play around with the proportions of oil and the veg glycerin here, but I know my hair prefers them in about equal amounts. I like 1/2 cup of olive oil and 1/2 cup glycerin, then add about 2 1/2 cups water.

I hope I'm not leaving anything out! Let me know if you have questions. The nice thing about my recipes is you can adjust them to your own needs. For me, that's no cones, proteins, artificial conditioning agents, ect!

Happy Cooking!

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hi
i made the NoPoo except with polysorbate 20 as an emulsifier (that's all i had)
i think it came out mostly ok except i hav to shake it a bit
anyway how do i use it? do i need lots or should i simply be spreading a thin film in my hair
i tried once and it was fine but i got the feeling i was not applying it correctly

please note that i have not used the original product

thank you for the recipe!

hockeymomof3 · 10-10-2006, 01:24 PM

I have a big order coming and I am going to try to perfect my conditioner recipe!! I will have to let you know how it comes out!

hockeymomof3 · 10-13-2006, 10:58 AM

I made my condish with the BTMS, water-soluble olive oil (peg-7 olivate), water soluble shea butter, honequat and a couple other things...I like it, it was very silky but it wasn't as rich as I would like it...maybe I do need an actual OIL in there vs. all water-soluble. Going to go experiment this weekend again.

moisturemaniac · 10-14-2006, 05:30 PM

Hi everybody,

Wow, I'm glad to see all the new hits this topic is getting! i haven't been on NC.com for awhile (i'm in grad school...) but I have been experimenting!

Mariposa,

I like to apply Co. like this: spread a thick layer all ofer the top of my hair,
then bend over and spread a thick layer underneath my hair, then massage it all around like a shampoo.

hockeymomof 3,

Happy experimenting! it is fun, isn't it?

hockeymomof3 · 10-15-2006, 05:12 PM

Yes, it is fun and addicting!!

I like how you can adjust the formula to meet your own needs, more oil, less oil, etc.

moisturemaniac · 10-17-2006, 06:14 PM

yeah, it is fun! I love emulsifiers

my only fear is that I'll be traveling or something, and run out of my own Co. and not have any emulsifier....ugh, what a nightmare....

hockeymomof3 · 10-17-2006, 07:08 PM

That would not be good....that is def. an online purchase!
Now that I have the basics down, I am looking at adding shea butter, cetyl esters, different oils and stuff.

mariposa · 10-17-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moisturemaniac

Hi everybody,

Wow, I'm glad to see all the new hits this topic is getting! i haven't been on NC.com for awhile (i'm in grad school...) but I have been experimenting!

Mariposa,

I like to apply Co. like this: spread a thick layer all ofer the top of my hair,
then bend over and spread a thick layer underneath my hair, then massage it all around like a shampoo.

hockeymomof 3,

Happy experimenting! it is fun, isn't it?

thanks! I'll try again

moisturemaniac · 10-19-2006, 01:30 PM

Good luck everybody !

mariposa · 10-29-2006, 05:53 PM

okay i am posting an update.....

so far a pretty mixed experience..... This no-poo concoction really does clean my hair reasonably well so i'm going to keep trying to use it.

I have used it twice since I last posted (so 3 times total). The first time I put it on wet hair, covered with a plastic cap and then used a heat cap and then rinsed out (messy but worked).

The second time I blended the remaining mixture with an egg yolk - since it would act as an emulsifier and also give additional cleansing power and moisture.

The main problem I'm running into is that it's so runny I find it hard to work with. This morning I applied it in sections across my head (the egg yolk variant) while in the shower and yes that seemed to work better. I did get my hair and scalp fairly clean. I really need to find something to thicken it further, any suggestions? I know I can make it with less water but I think I would prefer to keep the current moisture ratio.

Right now it's in the freezer - don't want the egg to go bad.

moisturemaniac · 10-29-2006, 09:32 PM

hi Mariposa,

adding more emulsifier should thicken it up a bit. also, adding thickening ingredients like carrageenan (seaweed derived), lecithin, or even cornstarch might work well. I have not tried to thicken it up, as I prefer a very thin Co for washing, but these natural thickeners are often used ehrn making body creams, so I imagine they would work well on hair.
HTH!

mariposa · 11-03-2006, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moisturemaniac

hi Mariposa,

adding more emulsifier should thicken it up a bit. also, adding thickening ingredients like carrageenan (seaweed derived), lecithin, or even cornstarch might work well. I have not tried to thicken it up, as I prefer a very thin Co for washing, but these natural thickeners are often used ehrn making body creams, so I imagine they would work well on hair.
HTH!

hi mm
i will look into those
i hardly have any left..... it does clean well.... i feel that if i thicken it i could also waste less
wanted to let you know that i finally got veg glycerin this week and tried making a very small batch of the One-C -
I AM

I used olive oil, glycerine, water, polysorbate 20 and guar gum to emulsify
i did follow your suggested proportions - the 2.5 cups water one... that seemed to turn out okay and i left it on the counter for a while to evaporate and thicken up
i only used it once but that one time it seemed to work nicely...... i was doing a lot to my hair that day so i probably need to use it again before i can really be sure what it does
thank you!

moisturemaniac · 11-03-2006, 05:31 PM

mariposa
no problem! I'm so glad it's working for you!

mariposa · 11-23-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by moisturemaniac

mariposa
no problem! I'm so glad it's working for you!

i also found a good solution for applying this thin stuff without wasting it
i placed it in one of those small pump bottles - the kind that holds handsoap.... when using that it's so much easier to pump little squirts into different sections of my hair.... so it can be applied although it's watery..... great!

moisturemaniac · 11-25-2006, 01:48 PM

that bottle method sounds great, mariposa! I'll have to try it out

curlykey · 12-05-2009, 03:32 PM

Bump!!

Curious to see if anyone is still using this mix successfully.

curlykristin · 12-06-2009, 01:15 PM

This has been my base recipe for experimentation for two years. My conditioner mix has shea butter, coconut oil and olive oil. I brew some herbal tea bags in the water that I use. It is a great recipe for starting out.

curlykey · 12-06-2009, 02:58 PM

Thanks for sharing. I'm trying to see if it would be more beneficial for me to just make my own conditioner. I have these ingredients and more. I think I'm going to experiment this week and see what I come up with. I ordered a couple of things online and can't wait to try them out. I will use this as a base recipe and go from there.

belasuna · 12-08-2009, 04:05 PM

I have also been making a similar type of conditioner for a while with similar ingredients. To clarify on the orginal post, there are some steps that were not indicated that will help in getting a smooth, cohesive conditioner.

1. If you are using glycerin, you actually add this to the water step. Glycerin is not an oil so it will not mix with the oil mix.

2. The water and the oil mix must be heated to the same temperature. Usually 165-170F. What this does is it kills any germs and then it allows for the two mixtures to blend. I find that the exact moment BTMS oil mis melts to form a clear liquid, it is exactly 170F. You can time your water mix to heat to that temp. Boiling water is 212F which is too hot to add to the oil mix. If the oil mix get to hot, your end product may not have the right texture and feel.

3. Additional thickening agents lecithin, carageen should be added to the water mix. The PEG olive oil (Olivate-7) can be added to the oil mix.

4. All preservative have a temp range which they should be added. Please pay attention to this or you might not end up with a product that is adequately preserved.

5. Any other thickeners, like xanthum gum or guar gum can be added to the water mix and heated up. This will make the water mix thick.

Note: BMTS is not actually an emulsifier. It is a conditioning agent/surfactant that is self-emulsifying, meaning that you won't need other emulsifiers if you use this product. If you use other emulsifiers in your conditioner you might not end up with a conditioner. Many emulsifiers are not surfactants so they are not going to help clean your hair. BMTS is a mild/gentle surfactant which makes it ideal of CG. If you don't want to use BMTS, you can use straight Cetearyl alcohol or cetyl alcohol as your conditioning agent and thickener. These will still give you a conditioner that is not runny. This is the problem that Mariposa was having since she did not use a thickening conditioning agent in her condish.

curlykey · 01-04-2010, 12:17 PM

I made my own variation of this conditioner today...This is my first batch ever...woo hoo!

I'm currently waiting for it to completely cool. It looks good so far. I used a mix of coconut oil, shea butter and grapeseed oil....and water/avg, BTMS...I also added some other goodies. It's almost completely cooled, so I rubbed a dab on my hand and it did not feel too greasy...so far so good. I already did my hair for today, but will be trying this out tomorrow.