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Old 10-06-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
 
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Default Citric acid as preservative?

I picked up some from the health food store to use as a preservative for FSG. How much should i wisk in at the end of making fsg (8 oz)? I have read too much can dry out your hair.

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Old 10-08-2009, 11:01 AM   #2
 
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I was told to use 1/4 tsp. for one cup of FSG. It didn't work for me, my gel was molded the next morning.
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Is citric acid not for adjusting the ph value? I use grapefruit seed extract for preservative.
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Yes, it is used to adjust pH.

If you need a preservative, you need to use a product that is actually a preservative. There are no natural ones--not a single one. I make toiletries and I used to work in microbiology. Whoever makes a natural preservative is going to be one very, very rich person/corporation.

GSE won't work--or maybe I should say, it does work but not in the way most people think. Manufacturers of GSE were putting preservatives--parabens or benzethonium chloride in their product. That's what had the antimicrobial activity; not the GSE itself.
(Source: Identification of Benzethonium Chloride in Commercial Grapefruit
Seed Extracts
Gary Takeoka,* Lan Dao, Rosalind Y. Wong, Robert Lundin, and Noreen Mahoney
Western Regional Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
800 Buchanan Street, Albany, California 947103316 J. Agric. Food Chem. 2001, 49, 3316−3320)

If you want to use a preservative in a product, you're going to have to do a little chemistry work or you can contact someone who sells preservatives, tell them what you made and ask for a suggestion on how to preserve it.

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:15 AM   #5
 
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Thanks Redbone! Good to know!

I used gse in the past and I found it had a drying affect on my hair.
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Yes, it is used to adjust pH.

If you need a preservative, you need to use a product that is actually a preservative. There are no natural ones--not a single one. I make toiletries and I used to work in microbiology. Whoever makes a natural preservative is going to be one very, very rich person/corporation.

GSE won't work--or maybe I should say, it does work but not in the way most people think. Manufacturers of GSE were putting preservatives--parabens or benzethonium chloride in their product. That's what had the antimicrobial activity; not the GSE itself.
(Source: Identification of Benzethonium Chloride in Commercial Grapefruit
Seed Extracts
Gary Takeoka,* Lan Dao, Rosalind Y. Wong, Robert Lundin, and Noreen Mahoney
Western Regional Research Center, Agricultural Research Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
800 Buchanan Street, Albany, California 947103316 J. Agric. Food Chem. 2001, 49, 3316−3320)

If you want to use a preservative in a product, you're going to have to do a little chemistry work or you can contact someone who sells preservatives, tell them what you made and ask for a suggestion on how to preserve it.

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Hi Redbone,

I was under the impression that there are several natural antimicrobials and antifungal preservatives when used in combo can act as a broad specturm preservative for natural products. For instance, silver citrate + potassium sorbate + citric acid as ph adjuster. I am not a microbiologist so I would like to know. I had considered using this combo for my natural products. Could the combo be considered a natural preservative? TIA for your help.
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Can you use food contain citric acid? Like lemon? Just wondering..
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Can you use food contain citric acid? Like lemon? Just wondering..
no you cannot. Citric acid is a "concentrated" form. Lemon juice has citric acid among other things including water, so you will have to use a lot of lemon juice to get the amount of citric acid needed, which will be drying

citric acid is not a preservative.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:52 PM   #9
 
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Oh thanks, I'm new to this.

I've been thinking of making homemade things like lip balm and scrubs, but I don't want to wake up one day and it stinky and covered with mold. Any cheap and easily found in stores ideas?
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