Oil cleansing method (OCM) for skin

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I agree with Reeky, you may need to reduce the amount of castor oil in your mix--especially once you have your skin under "control." I started at 25% castor oil and now only use 10%. My "main" oil is sunflower oil. I also add apricot, sweet almond and rice bran to the mix--mostly because I had them around.

I use facial serums most of the year as my moisturizer. When it's cold and dry in the winter, I use tamanu, emu or camellia oil as my moisturizer. The tamanu is REALLY healing when my skin get chaffed.
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ruchipuchi i believe if your skin feels taught after you need to use less castor, also it tells you if you feel like you need a moisturizer use a dab of whatever oil u use in your mix (in your case olive) id definitely switch though, sunflower jojoba or grapeseed! Almond is nice too.. I used it on my skin before and like the way it feels but im not sure if it clogged my pores because thats back when my skin was pretty bad
Originally Posted by Reeky
I think when I was using the 25-75 mix, my skin was still getting a little dry, but I wasn't feeling/seeing anything coming out of my pores. I feel cleaner with this mix, but still dry. Do you think I should still cut back? Should I do it every other day? What should I use on the off days? I know I wouldn't be able to get away with not doing anything at all...

I was reading a comedogenicity list about different oils. Here is the link: http://www.beautymagonline.com/pages..._cosmetic_.htm I like this one because it has smiley faces next to the ratings so you actually know what the numbers mean!
Turns out sweet almond and olive oil are both equally comedogenic.
I noticed that mineral oil and glycerin were both non-comedogenic and non-irritating. Has anyone tried those for OCM (I know glycerin is not an oil, but I think the thinner oil is just supposed to be to dilute the CO and give additional moisturizing benefits - both things i could see glycerin doing).
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I've been using OCM for a long time now and still love it. I only use it 1 or 2 nights a week now and no longer use any caster oil. I use a mixture of some of these - jojoba, hempseed, sunflower, safflower oil. No set amounts, just pour some of each into a little plastic bottle that I keep in the bathroom. The other nights of the week I use a gentle cleanser from Burts Bees or Serious Skin Care.
This has really made a difference in my pores and I no longer get the painful cysts I used to get.
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On the days or evenings I don't feel the need to do OCM, I use a mixture of powdered goats milk with some ground oatmeal to wash my face, then apply a drop or two of honey after rinsing, and a scant amount of jojoba oil.
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I tried this method for the first time last night and WOW!

My face is usually so oily that I actually carry tissues with me to blot with - it's a running joke that I "have to go blot my greasy Italian face". My boyfriend even keeps tissues in his car or he knows I'll make him stop so I can get some napkins from somewhere to blot with.

I can't believe it's almost 1 pm and I haven't had to blot yet! Simply UNHEARD OF!!

The only thing that kind of worries me is I'm wondering if this will lessen the natural anti-aging properties of having oily skin. I'm in my 30's and people say I look like I'm in my early 20's. I don't want to lose my "Incredible Time Barrier".
I have been doing the OCM for a few months now, and while there have been a few speedbumps here and there, I love it and will never go back to commercial face cleansers!

Before switching to OCM, I was using ProActiv, which worked really well, but man was it expensive! I tried using other OTC facial cleansers after I quit ProActiv, but things like Neutrogena were so drying that I was flaking and breaking out at the same time. And every moisturizer I tried would just make me oily, and break me out even more! It was terrible, my face was a mess.

So then I started with the OCM. I started off with a 30/70% mixture of castor oil and sunflower oil. It really worked for me for a good solid month! I wasn't quite to the same skin quality I was at when I was on ProActiv, but it was close, and considerably cheaper and more natural. But then, like many of you, I started to get small bumps along my chin and jawline. I tried plowing through it, but it wouldn't stop. My skin also started to get kinda flaky around the corners of my mouth, which is when I realized that my skin had balanced out enough that the 30/70% ratio was now too strong for my face. I recently went to a 20/80% ratio, and I think it is helping keep me more moisturized and clear.

I have also started using an aspirin mask once or twice a week. I use 5 or so uncoated aspirin crushed in a few drops of water, then add a bit of yogurt and some honey (generally just eyeball it). I apply this mixture after I've done my OCM in the evening, and leave it on for 30 minutes to an hour. When I rinse it off, it exfoliates really nicely, and leaves my skin really really soft and clean feeling. This mixture has helped me heal up the remaining bumps that my over-drying ratio caused.

The only problem I have come across is that the OCM doesn't really seem to do anything to heal up red marks from popped or scabbed zits (which I still get around my period every now and then). I'm hoping that the aspirin masks will help heal those as well, as I've heard that honey can help old red marks fade. Anybody have any experience with this?
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Tamanu oil is very "healing" and good for the marks. I use it as my night time moisturizer in the winter. Helps with the dry, red skin caused by the dry, bitter cold.
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Hi Ladies,
Another curly with problem skin here. This is intriguing me and I think it could really work for my sensitive, acne-prone yet occasionally very dry (complicated!) skin. But I have a question (if anyone still checks up on this thread ):
If you wear makeup or sunscreen etc, does it come off with the deep cleanse? Or do you have to wash it off first before cleansing - or cleanse twice?

TIA
Originally Posted by a curly q
I wear makeup and sunscreen every day and I use the OCM just fine. began using the method as an alternative to harsh makeup removers. Also, I use physical sunscreens and they say they should be removed with oil-based products, so this is great for me.
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ruchipuchi i believe if your skin feels taught after you need to use less castor, also it tells you if you feel like you need a moisturizer use a dab of whatever oil u use in your mix (in your case olive) id definitely switch though, sunflower jojoba or grapeseed! Almond is nice too.. I used it on my skin before and like the way it feels but im not sure if it clogged my pores because thats back when my skin was pretty bad
Originally Posted by Reeky
I think when I was using the 25-75 mix, my skin was still getting a little dry, but I wasn't feeling/seeing anything coming out of my pores. I feel cleaner with this mix, but still dry. Do you think I should still cut back? Should I do it every other day? What should I use on the off days? I know I wouldn't be able to get away with not doing anything at all...

I was reading a comedogenicity list about different oils. Here is the link: http://www.beautymagonline.com/pages..._cosmetic_.htm I like this one because it has smiley faces next to the ratings so you actually know what the numbers mean!
Turns out sweet almond and olive oil are both equally comedogenic.
I noticed that mineral oil and glycerin were both non-comedogenic and non-irritating. Has anyone tried those for OCM (I know glycerin is not an oil, but I think the thinner oil is just supposed to be to dilute the CO and give additional moisturizing benefits - both things i could see glycerin doing).
Originally Posted by ruchipuchi
I need to double check, but I'm pretty sure mineral oil just sits on the skin and doesn't allow the skin to breathe. It's a petroleum by product. I don't think it can be comedogenic cuz it doesn't gets in your pores, just sits on top of them.
KookyCurl, you're right about the mineral oil.

I just switched to safflower oil and my face is no longer dry after OCM. It sometimes seems like it's harder to get the oils off my compared to my olive oil mix. I steam 2-3 times and wipe off each time with a hot washcloth, but I can still feel some on my face. However, it doesn't exactly feel greasy and my face doesn't look shiny. It feels how it would feel after putting a rich face cream on your face that absorbs well. I have a feeling this could just be my skin being less stripped... and I guess... supple. It hasn't felt like that in a while so I think I'm mistaking it for not cleaning my face enough.
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KookyCurl, you're right about the mineral oil.

I just switched to safflower oil and my face is no longer dry after OCM. It sometimes seems like it's harder to get the oils off my compared to my olive oil mix. I steam 2-3 times and wipe off each time with a hot washcloth, but I can still feel some on my face. However, it doesn't exactly feel greasy and my face doesn't look shiny. It feels how it would feel after putting a rich face cream on your face that absorbs well. I have a feeling this could just be my skin being less stripped... and I guess... supple. It hasn't felt like that in a while so I think I'm mistaking it for not cleaning my face enough.
Originally Posted by ruchipuchi
Dont worry, that sounds about right. I was paranoid about that (leftover oil) feeling but I saw no negative results. & according to the ocm website if your mix is right your not supposed to need a moisturizer after, so you should be okay. I still use my emu after only because I love what it does to my skin.

& relating to the post before last.. I do ocm every night (if im not lazy) and like someone stated above I cleanse my face with ground oatmeal in the morning. I found that doing the deep cleansing of the ocm at night AND washing in the morning with soap was why my skin was breaking out still, since im sensitive.. that was overdoing it. I think the oatmeal works so good for me because im sensitive, but id def recommend a gentle, maybe cream cleanser in the mornings.. no need to super deep clean when all you did was go to sleep lol.
is castor oil and mineral oil the same thing?
is castor oil and mineral oil the same thing?
Originally Posted by turtles
No. I think mineral oil is a by product of petroleum when they make gasoline. From Wikipedia, "A mineral oil or liquid petroleum is a liquid by-product of the distillation of petroleum to produce gasoline and other petroleum based products from crude oil."

Caster oil is a oil pressed from the castor bean/seed.

My hair doesn't care for either, but the castor is fine in my OCM mix.
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is castor oil and mineral oil the same thing?
Originally Posted by turtles
No. I think mineral oil is a by product of petroleum when they make gasoline. From Wikipedia, "A mineral oil or liquid petroleum is a liquid by-product of the distillation of petroleum to produce gasoline and other petroleum based products from crude oil."

Caster oil is a oil pressed from the castor bean/seed.

My hair doesn't care for either, but the castor is fine in my OCM mix.
Originally Posted by kathymack

Okay, becuase I don't know where to by castor oil, everytime I try to find it, I just find mineral oil instead.
Okay, becuase I don't know where to by castor oil, everytime I try to find it, I just find mineral oil instead.
Originally Posted by turtles
You can find it in the laxative section. Mineral oil is there too, castor oil could be next to it.
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Dont worry, that sounds about right. I was paranoid about that (leftover oil) feeling but I saw no negative results. & according to the ocm website if your mix is right your not supposed to need a moisturizer after, so you should be okay. I still use my emu after only because I love what it does to my skin.

& relating to the post before last.. I do ocm every night (if im not lazy) and like someone stated above I cleanse my face with ground oatmeal in the morning. I found that doing the deep cleansing of the ocm at night AND washing in the morning with soap was why my skin was breaking out still, since im sensitive.. that was overdoing it. I think the oatmeal works so good for me because im sensitive, but id def recommend a gentle, maybe cream cleanser in the mornings.. no need to super deep clean when all you did was go to sleep lol.
Originally Posted by Reeky
I bought a pure glycerin soap bar and have been using that to wash my face in the morning. It's not stripping at all. I made a spray of rose water, glycerin, and aloe vera that I spritz on my face afterwards. I never get greasy anymore and my skin never feels dry either.
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DT/PT: GVPCB, AOHR, Coconut oil, Olive Oil, Yogurt PTs, ION Effective Care
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So, I figured out why I wasn't getting any great results from the OCM. I had been putting the oils on my face when it was wet, or at least damp. The oils were not doing anything spectacular or detrimental. However, last night, I wanted to do it when I wasn't in the shower, and I could tell instantly! Putting the oils onto my dry skin made a bunch of difference. I can even tell today. My face looks softer and clearer. I certainly hope that within a couple days or weeks my face will be clear.
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On the days or evenings I don't feel the need to do OCM, I use a mixture of powdered goats milk with some ground oatmeal to wash my face, then apply a drop or two of honey after rinsing, and a scant amount of jojoba oil.
Originally Posted by Morgan_Adcock
Morgan, how are you applying your honey? Is your face wet? Do you leave it on? I use EVOO as my moisturizer, but I'd love to use the honey as well. Do you put your oil on over the honey?
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Well, everybody's mileage varies, of course, but my understanding is that most people are applying the oil after steaming their faces lightly with a hot, damp washcloth.

Also, in nursing school we were taught that oils and creams shouldn't be applied to dry skin, but to moist skin, as they will help seal water in the skin, where it's needed. Not having enough water in your skin leads not only to dryness, but also to itchiness. Despite what cosmetics and personal care product manufacturers would have us believe, water is moisture, oils and creams are emollients.
Peace,
Morgan

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