Long Island Deva Cut

I got my first Devacut today at a salon called Evolutions in West Babylon, Long Island. My stylist was Erica. I am really really happy with it. The place itself was so welcoming, right from the phone call to make the appointment. I even called back last night to ask them if I should wash my hair prior and all and the girl on the phone explained the entire process to me. Really great.

Erica was very knowledgeable and really listened to what I wanted, asking about my current routine and showing me some new tips and tricks. My main reason for going was that my bangs were driving me nuts. I've been growing them in and they were so in my face I was considering just cutting them again. But Erica showed me a way to keep them out of my face by clipping them a certain way during the drying process and they haven't been in my face all day! I'm so glad because I really didn't want to cut them, and she agreed and this method should work until they are grown in.

I was very surprised and pleased that they didn't attempt to sell me any products and recommend anything that I wasn't currently using. Actually, she took some products out of my routine. I thought for sure they would use the devafuser on me and try to sell it to me (and I probably would have bought it) but she felt that it wasn't for my type of hair and that the bowl diffuser I am currently using is better and encourages more curls on my type of hair which is mostly 2b with some 3a mixed. However, I walked out of there with full on 3a spiral curls and it is 6 hours later and they look just as good as when I left.

Very happy with the whole experience. I had a Ouidad cut at the Ouidad salon in NYC in March, and I have to tell you this was so much better.

Oh yeah...the price....only $37!!! Can't beat that!
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KCCC - LALCG - Kinky Curly Spiral Spritz
Thanks for your review of this place. I am looking for a place on Long Island that is closer to home. I just have a few questions:

Was your hair dry or wet when she cut it?
Did they use CG haircare products?
While you were there did you get your hair colored/highlighted? If so, did you like it?

I appreciate your response. I always get nervous when trying new places.
Thanks!!
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They used all Deva products on my hair - as was my choice. They had some other products there but I told them that I use the Deva products.

I went in with my hair styled like normal and she cut my hair dry. When she was done she washed my hair - with Low-Poo (my choice - she had no poo also). Then she showed me how to dry it, scrunch in gel, clip. Then she diffused it for a little while and then I sat under a dryer for about 10 minutes to air dry.

I did not get my hair colored. I usually do my own color, but I am considering getting it colored there. I asked about color and the charge $40 for a single process. I know she does highlights and all also but I didn't inquire about that as I don't do highlights.

Let me know if you go. I really like it because it was less than 10 minutes from my house, the price was right and I thought she was very knowledgeable. Plus my hair really looked great. She didn't cut a lot, and I didn't want her to. Just snips here and there. She said she's been doing the deva cuts for about a year, trained at the deva center in nyc.
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KCCC - LALCG - Kinky Curly Spiral Spritz
Aw, I wanna see pics. I'm nowhere near Long Island (sis used to live there, and BIL's family), but I saw your post in Tarc's frizz thread, and I wanna see pics!!!!

Pretty please.
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Yes you should definitely post some pics!! I need to find a great stylist in my area as well, since being natural I have not been to a professional. I am in need of a trim but I really don't want to have to do it myself again, I want to know what the pro's think of my self upkept hair..

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I think in general, when someone gets a cut they love, it's a very good idea to post pics. What *I* consider a great cut, someone else might think is horrible. haha No, seriously, nothing speaks louder than ...a picture.
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Natural since 11/25/09
Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

Curl Junkie Conditions!
Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

~CJ Protein Tx
; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
I'm sorry, I didn't take any pictures that day. But I will soon. I have to say I have been getting consistently good hair everyday since then. And its more because of the changes she taught me to my daily routine. The best part is - the changes are using less product (costing me less $$) and saving me time and result in daily good hair days - can't beat that.

My new routine is -

Wash or co-wash; Condition; Rinse gently leaving some in; scrunch gel into soaking dripping wet hair with head upside down; with microfiber towel, scrunch out some moisture; diffuse for about 10 minutes until about 85% dry; Clip front/sides to get hair out of face; Let air dry; Pull out clips; with head upside down I lightly scrunch in either Mirror Curls mixed with Set it Free or JCNS. Walla! All done.

The biggest difference to what I had been doing is the way I scrunch in the gel. I used to just put a hand full all over my head quickly but now I scrunch several small amounts into soaking wet hair in sections and scrunch for a while with my head upside down. Then I gently dry it by just scrunching out the water. I then just flip my head over and I can see how it is falling differently into nicely defined clumps. I also eliminated plopping - which for some reason my hair didn't really benefit from it. When I plop my hair is more wavy loose curls, but when I don't they are more defined spirals.

I am also finding that with this method I get hardly any crunch - which may be because some of the gel is soaked up by the towel - but yet my curls are holding all day.
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West Babylon is only about forty minutes from where I live, which isn't bad at all. I wanted to get a haircut at the actual Deva salon this summer, but it's so expensive! Erica sounds great. She's Deva-trained, yes? And $37 for a haircut! I'm so shocked. Actually, I did something very stupid a few months back, in about October/November. I cut my bangs short. Really short. So short they still stick up awkwardly and I have to pull them back with a headband. I've been looking for a curly stylist anyway. My old stylist didn't know anything about curly hair, so I tried to cut it myself on Valentine's Day, and that didn't work so well. It's not too bad anymore but it needs some evening out. I've also been eager to try the DevaCurl products.

Sorry if I'm rambling. I'm just happy to hear of a stylist who's not two hours away and costs $250.

Gina, thank you for posting your review on Erica at Evolutions hair salon. I had seen their website online in my search for a hair salon on long island to cut curly hair and had been hesitating about going there. I was not happy with my previous 2 haircuts in manhattan at Christo and Arte. Having not had my hair styled in many months, I decided to try Erica. I called on Thursday evening and got an appt for yesterday, Friday and I am so happy that I did! She is only 20 mins or so away and she was so friendly and did a great job! My experience was similar to yours and now I no longer have the dreaded triangular shape when my hair gets dried. I have found my new hairstylist. She asked where I had heard of
her and I told her about your rave review on this site. Hope you don't mind. Now I am off to stand in front a
mirror and watch my hair...lol.
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bumping this thread.
anyone been there recently?
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I was there several times in the last 5 years for both curly cuts and not curly. Well, not a dry cut....Erica has never cut my hair dry.

I heard about it from this site originally. There have been many changes from my last haircut which was last Spring/Summer. (working backwards here) Apparently it's now called 'Curly Evolutions' and a cut will run you 60$

I have never paid more than 40$ for a cut there, but again, it was not a dry cut.

My first cut there was in 2010 and my hair was pretty long and I suppose damaged compared to it's state today. The curl was 2bish and she said I didn't really need a dry cut. So I went with wet & she used all Deva products.

I was happy with the cut & the products, but that all changed after a while. My satisfaction with the cut outlasted my satisfaction with the products and I stopped CG/mod CG.

I tried to make an appointment a year or so after my original cut but Erica was unavailable & I couldn't take it anymore, so I took their suggestion as to which stylist because I wasn't planning on sticking with curly styling.

Apparently the girl was just learning, because when I went back 3 months later for another cut, the very same girl who cut and styled my hair the last time was not cutting/styling but cleaning the salon, sweeping, washing hair and assisting the other girls. It was weird, she wouldn't look at me & kept her eyes to the floor

Trying not to read into anything here as I have NO idea of the inner workings of a salon. She had given me a layered cut and it was difficult because I was growing out a cut where one side of my head was much shorter than the other. It must've been technically difficult because the next stylist (another girl) also commented & seemed to have difficulty figuring a plan of action.

I sent an email to the salon the day after the pretty Cinderella girl had cut my hair, I got stopped by 2 strangers to tell me they loved my hairstyle as well as compliments from family. May have been because I was wearing it straight though. I have never gotten positive responses when my hair is curly, again, trying not to read into that too much

Anyhow, the girl I got that day did a great job on my hair, we cut it into a short pixie as I had given up the curls. I was happy with that for the next 3 haircuts about 12 wks apart.

Then I just stopped going. However, I'm planning on making an appointment in the coming weeks as I'm committed to wearing my curly hair & I don't care what anyone thinks of it. It's curlier now that it was when I first went, not sure if this will make a difference. However, I plan to ask for Erica & since I'm not in a hurry to get it cut, I'll wait for her schedule to open up if she's booked up like the last time. My hair *does* indeed shrink up a bit when dry, so maybe she'll cut it dry this time. When I first got it cut by her, my hair didn't 'spring' at all.

Will post before and after pics in case anyone's interested.
Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews
thanks so much for replying!!! yes, please post back after the next cut and with pics!!!!
just a comment on the deva products -- apparently you started using them right about the time they changed the formula, but did not change the label!!! in fact, i was using them and loved the original formulas, then, all of a sudden my hair looked really, really, really bad and after a few days i realized that i had a bottle with the new formulas.
so, don't give up on the curly method, just have to find the right products. or even a modified cg if that works.
here is something else interesting about deva cuts -- prior to say 2005/6 the training for outside stylists was 2 weekends. then it was just one day. now maybe you can learn to cut a curl, but how to cut differing curl patters, etc. is another story. so now they changed training again, and now the stylists taking the training have to do a demo cut to earn their 'inspired' certification.
like all professions, some are great, some are terrible.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
So I have an appointment for a 'curly girl cut' with Allison at Curl Evolution in West Babylon tomorrow.

It's listed for 60$ on the website, will take pictures today for comparison to post tomorrow.

I need a good shape, having trouble with my bangs, well, of course I am, I cut them myself

Anyway, growing out a very choppy pixie that I wore straight, that I actually got from this very salon a year or so ago & returning to my curly roots.

I was extremely happy with my previous (straight) cut from this place, though I don't really remember what I thought of it when they cut & styled it curly. It was 5 yrs ago when they did it curly & I should note that they cut it wet (said it didn't really matter for my curl pattern) & styled curly.

I've no idea what they'll do this time. I asked the receptionist how I should prepare, but she just said wear it down so Allison (my stylist) can get a good look at my curl pattern.

I guess I'll just style as usual, water & aloe spritz.
Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews
great! post pics before and after and let me know what you think.
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
Ok, sorry for the delay, my mom borrowed my laptop and posting anything longer than 2 or 3 sentences on a touch screen tablet is like nails on a chalkboard to me Even reading on that teeny screen gives me a headache.

So I went for my haircut yesterday & ended up going with damp hair cause how long it takes to dry is variable and I can't always predict it.

Here's what my nekkid hair looked like the night before, just co-washed, nothing else:

Here's the haircut I'm growing out that I got from this same salon about a year or more ago (nevermind the look on my face, selfies aren't my strong point:




I have some issues with thinning at my temples and my hair had thinned a bit due to underlying hormonal issues, I've rebounded a bit from the overall thinning but the temple thing just is

I needed a total re-shaping to wear my curls & my bangs were all kinds of messed up cause I cut 'em me-self

Here's what I looked like before my cut:


Right before I left for my cut, yes, it was still damp


Here's what it looked like after my haircut which was done dry & styled with Deva products, mousse of some kind, low poo of some kind, and gel, also not sure which one, but Deva for sure. Though the website said 60$ for a CG cut, she charged me 40$. I did not like the way it looked with these styling products, but the most important thing for me was the cut. The other stuff washes out easy peasy



Here's the back of it with Deva products & styled by my stylist:


More images in case you're not convinced, lol


More pics after I styled it myself with products that I LIKE in the next post
Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews

Last edited by hookilau; 03-22-2015 at 07:32 PM. Reason: added price of haircut
So here's what it looked like after I co-washed and re-styled with products I like, all have one thing in common, lots of humectants, glycerin, sugars and aloe. As I Am Curling Jelly, Curl Keeper, Jason 84 % Moisturizing Aloe Conditioner (co-wash) & Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner (rinse out)









Here's what it looked like after it dried:





Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews
So here's my 2nd day hair with my new hair cut"



I refreshed with Aloe vera juice with a couple of drops of veggie glycerin in the spray bottle.

Bottom line:

I needed a shaping & Allison did a great job at that. I wasn't fond of the way my hair responded to the Deva products & was willing to try out the newly styled hair for a few hours before deciding to wash it out. Partly because I didn't like the boufy look but mostly because I was just DYING to see what it looked like with products that I knew would bring out the best in my curls.

I'm happy with this cut & will continue to use this salon.

I DO recommend Allison's services highly and if you go, be prepared to get the Deva treatment with Deva products.
Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews
i think you have great hair! how do you like it now that it's been a few days?
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine
I like it better and better each day!

It looks the same every day and I'm finding the shape has made my curls fall just right. The quality of the curls is surprisingly consistent.

I'm sorry I waited so long to do it & will be going back again in about 4 months time, sooner if my bangs get stupid as they do free bang cuts =)

Now that the deed is done, I'm hoping to make this cut last (with the exception of the bangs) till mid summer
Following CG
fine, medium-low density
protein loving, porous, elasticity ?

Co-wash: Tresemme Perfectly Undone
LI/RO: GVP Conditioning Balm, Jane Carter Solutions Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner
Stylers: KCCC, AG recoil, CurlKeeper, As I am curling pudding
Protein treatments: Aphogee's Keratin 2 minute reconstructor, and Colorful neutral protein filler

Loves: aloe, glycerin & polyquats even in neg dews

Last edited by hookilau; 03-24-2015 at 11:21 AM. Reason: grammar
who cut your hair?
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3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity
washing/cowashing, conditioning, protein tx: curl junkie products
leave in:cj conditioners and treatments as leave in
styling: cj pattern pusha, cj honey butta leave in, cj cccc, cj ciab. cj aloe fix gel is my high dews/summer HG!!
sealants - spiral solutions emollience butter, jane carter nourish & shine

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