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Old 08-18-2013, 05:47 AM   #1
 
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Default Experience with Curlsys haircut & Dutch salons?

I live in the Netherlands. There are no Deva Stylists here. There are Curlsys stylists though. Does anyone have experience getting a Curlsys haircut? Did you like it?

For the Dutch members: Is there any salon you recommend? Preferrably near Utrecht.
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:26 AM   #2
 
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I got one in Germany. I didn't like the stylist or her products. I think she did it too methodically instead of paying attention to my curls' sizes. She did a horrible job blow drying it, and rather than go home & wash it, I looked at my triangle head in the mirror and asked for the thinning shears.

It was a bad stylist and a bad decision for me, but I also don't know about the whole CurlSys philosophy. I read somewhere on nc that you shouldn't cut different lengths within an individual curl, which is exactly what curlsys does: sections out individual curls (or tiny tiny sections of curls like mine did) - wet - with tension - and cuts a big sweeping curve into the bottom of it with secret magic scissors, so patented that I can't even find the feature that makes them special. It seems like a short-term solution - do it more than once every 6 months and the curved cutting technique will make your ends too thin, so they recommend "normal" cuts in between as your curls get progressively more weighed down. I'd like to know what a stylist thinks about this, because it does seem to get results but it doesn't seem at all like what the others recommend!

(Here's where I found the info on every-6-months - in German. Easy-ish for a Dutch speaker to understand, hopefully?)
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:48 AM   #3
 
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Thanks so much for sharing! I hope to hear from others too. Hopefully yours was an exception to the negative? I'm starting to doubt it though, since I've read more negative feedback.

Thanks for the link as well. Even though my German is terrible I can manage with the help of google translate
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:03 AM   #4
 
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Some people really do love it... I edited my post so many times I cut that part out! I also forgot to say I'm sure it depends on the stylist. I totally believe there are stylists out there who aren't so, (forgive my stereotype, but...) GERMAN about the rules and uniformity of every mini-section, who do listen to the curls, and who maybe mix a bit of CurlSys with some other techniques.

The thing is, my curls are behaving really well now (slowly turning from whirly waves into big spirals, yay!), and I don't know how much is the cut and how much is new products/care... yesterday I was telling my story to some coworkers, and before my last sentence they were telling me, "But it looks really nice!" I just don't know if I'd be any less stressed going back to that salon another time. And I will definitely never ask for the thinning shears ever again!

My bottom line for advice is that a recommended stylist should carry more weight than the salon. There are many Dutch curlies commenting on here, so hopefully you'll find somewhere in your area with good recommendations!
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:57 AM   #5
 
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Hi Eva! Do you ever travel to the UK, because we have a super guy here in Birmingham working under the name Matthew James hair. He trained with Lorraine Massey and he really knows what he's doing.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:10 AM   #6
 
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Unfortunately, no

There must be some good salons in the Netherlands, where are all the Dutch girls getting their hair cuts?
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:15 AM   #7
 
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Eva, try putting a query on British Curlies as I think there are members from various EU countries there. You could also email Devachan to ask them. Your curls are amazing, by the way! I have curl envy
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:31 AM   #8
 
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Eva, try putting a query on British Curlies as I think there are members from various EU countries there. You could also email Devachan to ask them. Your curls are amazing, by the way! I have curl envy
Thank you for that wonderful compliment!

British salons however unfortunately are not an option. I do not live in Britain. I am Dutch, I live in the Netherlands. I will not get on an airplane or travel at least 6 hours (single trip) by car / train or car / ferry to get my hair done. That is just too much.

I really appreciate your efforts to help out though!
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:54 AM   #9
 
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Noooo, I meant look on there to see if anyone knows a salon in NL
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:15 PM   #10
 
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Most of the time I cut my hair myself but if I'm lazy (lol) or whatever I go to a salon.

It's unfortunately not in Utrecht but if you want to cut your hair, I recommend going to a Moroccan Salon. They are absolutely great with curly hair (especially type 3), they know how to handle it and they know a lot about it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:14 PM   #11
 
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I did another search for Dutch salons and ran into these:

Haar knippen in Leiden bij Kapsalon Smittenaar, kinderen, heren en dames - Kapsalon Smittenaar - Leiden
Mireille Coiffure - Knippen

Both state they cut curly hair dry, which sounds promissing. Probably a long shot, but anyone have any experience with these salons?
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:17 AM   #12
 
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Hi Eva,
One more thought, it seems most of the Europe-based chatter happens in the Eurocurlies swap board. You might get more recommendations if you post in there, too - and there are already quite a few Dutch threads!
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:07 AM   #13
 
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Hi Eva, there is a curl saloon in Amsterdam named Simcha. I did not like the cut they gave me, she took to much of integrity sides and they don't cut it dry. But maybe you want to check it out as they claim to be specialized in curls and there are some good reviews.
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I've got a "curly haircut" according the Curlsys Method. I've had one a couple of times before and then it was okay. But the shorter the cut the worse the way it looks, seems like my hair is so thinned out that it can't form any curl properly. And then thinking of the length I've lost...it should curl like crazy Really sad right now.
They cut it wet and I'll have to find a salon that uses no silicones or sulfates yet.
When I had a long layered 'regular' haircut from a local hairdresser it costed me 50 Euro less and made my hair fuller, which I greatly appreciate with my rather thin hair.

I've cut the hair of my daughter dry and it was so much better then the wet haircut I did on my straight haired son. Cause even his hair falls differently dry then wet. Poor boy
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