Deva vs Ouidad.

How is the Deva cut different from the Ouidad cut?

I like the Ouidad cut as it gives me more manegeability and it allows me to wear my hair down without sacrificing too much thickness.


How is the technique of Deva different?
I had my hair cut at both places. Started at Ouidad many years ago, then switched to Devachan.

Ouidad thins your hair. They call it Carve and Slice, but it is thinning by another name. What that does is make frizz, since all your hair is a different length, unless you use a TON of product to keep your hair stuck together to form spirals. The technique they teach you works with the thinning and the product, true, but you still need all that hard as a rock product. It's like they ruin your hair and then try to fix it with product.

Devachan cuts each curl, it seems, somehow they shape it without thinning it. Awesome cuts, and my hair is pretty short, so it really has to a be good cut to work at all. I have found the Deva cuts to be really great, and easy to maintain. The hair just falls into place, even as it grows. And they tell me to come in every 6 months for another cut, and it looks good the whole time. You don't have to use a ton of product, or their product, for it to look good. I love that place, I love their cuts. I do not like their products, and I don't subscribe to the whole no-poo thing, but I LOVE the cuts at Deva!

I love Rick at Devachan by the way.
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I had my hair cut at both places. Started at Ouidad many years ago, then switched to Devachan.

Ouidad thins your hair. They call it Carve and Slice, but it is thinning by another name. What that does is make frizz, since all your hair is a different length, unless you use a TON of product to keep your hair stuck together to form spirals. The technique they teach you works with the thinning and the product, true, but you still need all that hard as a rock product. It's like they ruin your hair and then try to fix it with product.

Devachan cuts each curl, it seems, somehow they shape it without thinning it. Awesome cuts, and my hair is pretty short, so it really has to a be good cut to work at all. I have found the Deva cuts to be really great, and easy to maintain. The hair just falls into place, even as it grows. And they tell me to come in every 6 months for another cut, and it looks good the whole time. You don't have to use a ton of product, or their product, for it to look good. I love that place, I love their cuts. I do not like their products, and I don't subscribe to the whole no-poo thing, but I LOVE the cuts at Deva!

I love Rick at Devachan by the way.
Originally Posted by RylandCurl
Would anyone be able to tell me how much the cuts typically cost at Deva in NYC?

I've been trying to decide between Ouidad and Deva too.. but Deva is sounding like a better idea. Ouidad is just closer for me. Oh well, I'll drive for a good haircut.
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when i last went to deva, ana was $135. i don't know if other stylists are less. i would call and ask.
also, remember, you are not going to to often for a haircut, so i divide the cost by a year, and it turns out less then when i've gone to local places where i need to go every month. a good deva cut lasts me anywhere from 4 to 5 months, many people go every 6 months.
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I have a question about devachan,

do you have to have an appointment, and how long do you have to wait to get an appointment?
YES, you absolutely need an appointment!

But, they do have alot of stylists, so it's been my experience that you can get an appointment with someone within a few days if you don't require a specific stylist. They have 2 locations within a few blocks of eachother, so you can take either location as well. Rick did my hair a few weeks ago, I think the cut is fabulous, and it was $125. I found him because I called a week before, and he had an opening on the day I needed.
Suburban DC area.
I had my hair cut at both places. Started at Ouidad many years ago, then switched to Devachan.

Ouidad thins your hair. They call it Carve and Slice, but it is thinning by another name. What that does is make frizz, since all your hair is a different length, unless you use a TON of product to keep your hair stuck together to form spirals. The technique they teach you works with the thinning and the product, true, but you still need all that hard as a rock product. It's like they ruin your hair and then try to fix it with product.

Devachan cuts each curl, it seems, somehow they shape it without thinning it. Awesome cuts, and my hair is pretty short, so it really has to a be good cut to work at all. I have found the Deva cuts to be really great, and easy to maintain. The hair just falls into place, even as it grows. And they tell me to come in every 6 months for another cut, and it looks good the whole time. You don't have to use a ton of product, or their product, for it to look good. I love that place, I love their cuts. I do not like their products, and I don't subscribe to the whole no-poo thing, but I LOVE the cuts at Deva!

I love Rick at Devachan by the way.
Originally Posted by RylandCurl
I've had both too, at affiliated salons in MA.First Ouidad (which changed to a Curlisto salon), then Deva (Cala Renee in Beverly).

The last 2 Ouidad cuts I had I specifically asked them NOT to carve or slice. And those were the cuts I loved. They cut wet, but not soaking. So my hair was looking afro-y when she cut it. I had no idea how she should tell what she was doing. But when she was done, she re-wet and styled and it looked great.

I'm going for my 3rd Deva cut next weekend at Cala Renee and that's a dry cut where she cuts individual coils. Surprisingly it doesn't take long. The last cut in may, she cut back my hair quite a bit at the sides to shape it but left the length at the back. I loved the shape, and 5 months later it still shapes and falls well and I'm almost shoulder length dry.

I'm just getting the ends cut this time and maybe a tad of redirectioning. That's it. In case you couldn't tell, I like the Deva cuts better.
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There's a deva trained stylist who posts here. Darn it, I can't remember her name! I believe she's in Florida.

Maybe she'll chime in.

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Last edited by roseannadana; 10-18-2008 at 12:52 PM.
Thanks for all the responses.

I guess I will have to try the DEVA cut to see how it works.


How are they with just styling and product? Especially with the 3c's- 4z's?
I love your Deva cuts too! And my experience with the Deva cutting techniques echos yours. My first cut was the best cut I'd ever had. The second (and last one) topped that.
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Last edited by Morgan_Adcock; 10-24-2008 at 05:46 PM.
I have never tried Ouidad, so my reply is obviously biased, but I do love DevaChan. Every time I go my hair loves it and so do I because the trim makes my hair just come to life and since I keep my hair long, I never have any complaints of them cutting too much or anything like that. The appointments are easy to get if you go to their website. And like someone else mentioned, even if it seems expensive, it really isn't so bad because you only need to go about every 6 months.

My hairstylist is Keith. He's awesome.
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So I bought a bottle of Deva no-poo and one condition and loved it. It took the whole bottle for me to really see a big difference but by the time I was done, I was in love. When it came time for me to buy more, I thought I would try and save some money and buy the Ouidad Frizz Free (which is sulfate free). Sephora had it on sale as a trio for the conditionar/shampoo/gel. I used it just a few times and I really disliked it and ended up taking it back. I feel like it dried my hair out and stripped all the moisture from it. Which is true with a lot of curly hair products, they dry your hair out to try and shrink the curl so it makes it more curly-false! SO in result I will stay with Deva from here on out. It is worth the extra money.
Admittedly I've never gotten a Ouidad cut. I'm not enthralled w'the idea of reducing the volume of my hair or having to grow out the ever-increasing fragile, tapered hair strands that repeat Oudidad clients complain about so often.

Instead I like to optimize my hair's body and volume, plus - like someone else pretty much said - my hair springs to life w/Deva cuts - it loves lots of layers, and Deva stylists tend to be really good at cutting decent layers w/out giving you a "shelf" or "pyramid".

I only find myself needing a Deva cut every 7-8 months or so as I can tolerate it growing out some because the overall shape is maintained for a long time. You probably already know this, but just a friendly reminder: I'd read reviews before seeing any specific stylist, if you can find them. Also, you should probably ask the salon up front if they are comfortable cutting 3c/4a type hair, as you say. One stylist I spoke with said she is comfortable cutting curls "but not typical African [coily] hair". Meanwhile, some stylists IMO only seem to feel comfortable working w/wavier and 3a type curls, based on their online photo galleries.
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