What Should I Tell My Stylist?

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Hello!! I was just reading a post and have a quesiton. I've gone to the same stylist for over 8 years and she's always done a great job. I'm in and out within 25 minutes and have a great cut. My hair is between a 2B and 3A curl. I've heard of someone who does curly hair really well about 1/2 hour from me. I'm planning on going to her just to see if there is a difference. Thing is, I guess she does dry haircuts and has her own techniques. Do you know anything about dry cuts....if they are ok or not? I'm very scared that my hair will look bad.

Thanks!!
- If she can, she needs to keep a solid "base" at the bottom and only start layering an inch or two up from the bottom perimeter. I hate seeing stringy ends from a cut on curly hair because the layering started too soon.
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
Hmm, I'm not sure I understand this. Does this mean that the underneath part of the hair shouldn't be layered, but the layers should be in the "canopy" portion of the hair?

Getting my hair cut in 2 1/2 weeks...so so excited!
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Tiffany, many thanks. I've had my annual cut and the hairdresser happily followed your guidelines. I am very satisfied with the results!
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where did you get your hair cut janeyliz?
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By base, I mean the first couple of inches at the very bottom perimeter. The layers will need to be started sooner than the "canopy" (which, incidentally, I believe is a British term as I have never heard it used in American hairdressing lexicon); however, they should not be started immediately to avoid "stringy" ends.

janeyliz - I'm glad the suggestions worked out for you!
- Tiffany
Hair Stylist and Curly Hair Specialist - St. Petersburg, FL (Tampa Bay)

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Thanks Tiffany! I think I get it. We're so lucky to have you as a resource here!
2c-3a. Thick density. Texture = mixture of medium and fine.

Always trying to boost my curl!


Go-to products: Pink Boots, CJSG, LALSG, Abba Pure Finish gel
Experimenting with: CJAF, CJ CCCC, JCRR/CC, BRHG, PB Goo, Re:Coil, Komaza CHP, EcoStyler Protein
Didn't like: HESMU, Matrix Biolage Gelee (both too goopy)

http://public.fotki.com/thicknwavy/
Last updated: Dec. 3, 2009
The layers will need to be started sooner than the "canopy" (which, incidentally, I believe is a British term as I have never heard it used in American hairdressing lexicon)....
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
Please let me know, what would the American hairdressing term for "canopy" be? My HD looks at me funny when I mention "canopy", so I'd like to use a better word to make sure she gets it.
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where did you get your hair cut janeyliz?
Originally Posted by curly52
Sale, near Manchester - lady who operates from home.
Marchioness Chinoise in the land of Mancunia Productia Junkia in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

DT: AOHR
Wash: Anita Grant babassu bar
Leave-in: Body Shop cotton seed curl boost with manuka honey mixed in
Gel: Umberto Giannini Curl Friends scrunching gel
Odds & ends Lime juice, honey, Anita Grant cafe latte
I brush with a Tangle Teezer & love Flexi-8's

www.public.fotki.com/janeyliz
www.thelilyfoundation.org.uk
Thanks Tiffany! I think I get it. We're so lucky to have you as a resource here!
Originally Posted by thick_n_wavy
And I am equally lucky to have you all as well
The layers will need to be started sooner than the "canopy" (which, incidentally, I believe is a British term as I have never heard it used in American hairdressing lexicon)....
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
Please let me know, what would the American hairdressing term for "canopy" be? My HD looks at me funny when I mention "canopy", so I'd like to use a better word to make sure she gets it.
Originally Posted by curls2grow
We refer to it as the "crown" area
- Tiffany
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giving this a bump
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trying various aubrey products currently.
I'm new to all of this, especially when it comes to products for curly hair. I've noticed that some hairs types are sensitive to proteins, others can't do oils, there's no silicones, etc. You couldn't possibly stock every product out there in your salon! So how do you treat your customers hairs? Do you individualize it? or do you use a general product for Curlies?
I always come back to reference this thread - thanks Tiffany!
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I always come back to reference this thread - thanks Tiffany!
Originally Posted by CurlyQMom
I'm thinking about expanding on it soon, especially to give advice on how to check on the new crop of "curly hair specialists" that have started popping up recently. I think our community needs to learn how to differentiate between someone who is serious about addressing the special needs of curly hair and someone who only sees catering to the curly hair community as a cash cow.
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- Tiffany
Hair Stylist and Curly Hair Specialist - St. Petersburg, FL (Tampa Bay)

Blog: Live Curly, Live Free
Facebook fan page: Live Curly Live Free

Sulfate- and non-water soluble silicone-free since 04/22/2002
3B, brunette: medium texture, low porosity, high density

I'd never heard the term canopy applied to hair until I saw it in the Curly Girl book, but it makes sense to me - like the canopy of a forest or jungle.
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Thank you for this wonderful post! I had an awesome Stylist for over 15 years that retired. I have been to at least 4 different stylist that realy do not have a clue how to work with curly hair. I've been more than willing to work with them and give them 2nd and 3rd chances with my hair but I haven't found a stylist yet that I am pleased with. The information here will be a big help when I consult with another stylist.
Do this before you're in the chair. If a stylist will not listen, rolls her eyes, or you just feel she doesn't get it, WALK OUT. It's your hair and your money. Do not feel bad, you will feel worse when you don't like your hair.
The absolute best advise! I have had stylist not listen or look totally perplexed when I have tried to explain that my hair responds to (and I can handle my hair better at home) roller sets with bonet hair dryers or air drying and not blow drying, flat irons and curling irons. They insist on using all that heat and my hair never looks right. I know better from many years of experience with my hair and it is totally my fault for not getting up and walking out.

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE if anyone comes near you with a razor or thinning shears.
Oh gosh yes! Once again I knew better and allowed myself to get talked into it. My former stylist never had to use a razor or thinning shears to get my hair to look great. One of the new stylist I tried insited that it was the only way to achieve a good cut on my hair. Guess what? My hair became so frizzy you could actually hear it make a horrible crunch noise when I attempted to run my fingers in it. I have been trying to grow it out for 6 months and I am sure it will be years before I get my hair back to the way it was before.
Thank you again for such a great informative post.
I always come back to reference this thread - thanks Tiffany!
Originally Posted by CurlyQMom
I'm thinking about expanding on it soon, especially to give advice on how to check on the new crop of "curly hair specialists" that have started popping up recently. I think our community needs to learn how to differentiate between someone who is serious about addressing the special needs of curly hair and someone who only sees catering to the curly hair community as a cash cow.
Originally Posted by StruttsWife
I couldn't agree more! We'd love some expanding on your original post Tiffany

Last edited by DEL2C; 05-03-2010 at 07:54 AM.
Tiffany,
I was hoping you can give me some advise. I have 3b blonde hair that is thinning fast-especially at my hair line temples area. I have went to the dermatologist and she told me it is due to stress (I recently had a baby and my husband lost his job so we are having major $ issues-well you get the picture). She recommended Rogaine for Women and Biotin vitamin; which I am going to start this weekend. However right now my hair is medium length (front -just past my shoulder blades and the back is at my bra strap), I have longer layers in it and like you said I don't think they were done correctly cause the ends look straggly. I want to get my hair cut shorter to get it looking better and hopefully fuller (I also figure that if the ends aren't straggly it won't get tangled as much and I won't end up pulling more out when I comb it). What kind of hair cut would you recommend and what should I tell my hair stylist when I get there? Any advise you can give me would be great. I have always worn my hair longer cause the shorter it is the curlier it is. Please any help or advise would be great. I am 31years old and extremely self consious about my thinning hair.
My hairdresser always says she's just going to cut it so its not so "bushy" and then the layers end up too short. Any suggestions appreciated.
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This thread is awesome.

I'm going to keep this in mind when I go get my hair cut in February.
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