What Should I Tell My Stylist?

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great thread...can we keep it going
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I'm hoping to be more available to answer questions going forward. My dad had some serious health issues last year and I was fairly well preoccupied with my family for most of 2010 as a result. Happy to say he is doing awesome and I should have lots more time to devote to all things curly in the future
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This is a great thread, I got here through a link from the UK Curlies site!
I am getting my hair cut in a couple of weeks & am thinking of going for a shoulder length bob, what I'm wondering is what kind of layers should I ask for.
My hair is somewhere between wavy & curly depending on its mood (2b/3a), collar bone length with long layers at the moment (about chin length when pulled down), I need a change as I feel my hair always looks a bit too messy & straggly these days, I fancy a more 'styled' look but don't want to straighten.

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

I have gone to my current hairdresser for a few years now & she is quite good at doing more or less what I ask her as she knows I know my own hair pretty well.
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This is a great thread, I got here through a link from the UK Curlies site!
I am getting my hair cut in a couple of weeks & am thinking of going for a shoulder length bob, what I'm wondering is what kind of layers should I ask for.
My hair is somewhere between wavy & curly depending on its mood (2b/3a), collar bone length with long layers at the moment (about chin length when pulled down), I need a change as I feel my hair always looks a bit too messy & straggly these days, I fancy a more 'styled' look but don't want to straighten.

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

I have gone to my current hairdresser for a few years now & she is quite good at doing more or less what I ask her as she knows I know my own hair pretty well.
Originally Posted by Alexa
Here's a thread on curly bobs: Curly Bobs Unite! What's to like about it. There are a lot of us who wear them. I'm going on three years with an inverted bob. It's the first time since I've worn my hair curly (about 25 years) that I feel that I have a style, so I know what you mean.
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Thanks Kathymack, this is just what I need!

Your bob looks great by the way & is making me feel inspired!
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2C/3A Wavy Whirly & Curly Twirly.
Golden brown with highlights.
Low poo: Dr Organic, L'Oreal Everpure.
Conditioner: Dr Organic Argan Oil, Boots Coconut & Almond.
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Gel: JF Frizz Ease, Umberto Gianni.
Thanks Kathymack, this is just what I need!

Your bob looks great by the way & is making me feel inspired!
Originally Posted by Alexa
Thanks. You can start out longer and go shorter as you desire. My hair isn't long enough to put into a ponytail, etc. It's not an issue for me because I usually wet and style every day.
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modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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This is a great thread! I'm getting my haircut this evening and feel I can walk in armed with the knowledge that I need to get a decent haircut now. I think it also helps that I'm going to a salon that has been recommended on the board salond finder and same with the stylist. We'll see how that all works out.
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Styling -CJCCCC, HETT, Biotera Styling Gel, AVG, Boots Curl Cream, Eco Styler
This is a great and super helpful thread! I'm going back to my stylist soon so now i'll know what to tell her. I like my cut (layers, wet cut) in general but I still have some bulky areas, especially by the face.

Does anyone have any good 3a/b pictures of layered shoulder length styles? I always feel better armed with a lot of pictures.

Eta: I found my old standbys to bring in so i'm just going to do that. Going in tomorrow for a cut. Nothing drastic just polishing up the layers. I'll be sure to mention the 45 degree angle thing though!
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Last edited by ElvishThistle; 03-02-2011 at 11:03 AM.
I've been thinned, hacked, you know had my hair butchered every way possible! This thread should be a sticky. I just had my hair flat ironed for the first time. I feel like I have no hair. Its not nearly as thick as I thought. Its been over a year since my last cut. The sides were way too short and I've been trimming the bottom off and waiting on them to grow in. Since I've been cutting out the layers and possibly the thinned stuff, I am looking less like Cousin IT. I tell them I want to keep the length, they layer it then cut it to bra length. (As if they can't possibly do anything longer.) They wonder why they see so little of me. It takes a year to get back to where I started! I so want a cool cut but this hasn't ever ended well except for on rare occasions. I am going to study this and see if I can get the guts to find and try yet another stylist. I've just been parting it in back and pulling over my shoulders and trimming it off straight at about the bottom of my bra strap in front. As the layered stuff gets cut and its thicker at the bottom, I think it looks healthier. There is no point or straggly hairs , its gently rounded. Maybe I should just keep this up until I'm getting the layered part out of the sides or it starts to look bottom heavy?
Update: I cut myself some tiny bangs and I can go longer between finding a stylist now. My last haircut turned out so bad my sister suggested a smaller town and that I pay the stylist to cut a wig before letting her at my own precious hair!

Last edited by RitaCeleste; 03-03-2011 at 12:17 PM.
I've come away from a cut that took a least 3 inches off and still had split ends. What I'm wondering is could it be because of a dull pair of hair scissors, or technique? Or maybe my split-ends were up higher than I thought?
I keep asking my hair-guy (here in china, all bets are off!) to THIN THIN THIN b/c it's so thick & bushy. I thought that would be good. NO???? Why no thinning shears? Please explain! Thanks!
I keep asking my hair-guy (here in china, all bets are off!) to THIN THIN THIN b/c it's so thick & bushy. I thought that would be good. NO???? Why no thinning shears? Please explain! Thanks!
Originally Posted by whatuask
bigredapmi explained that this will cause split ends and major frizz. She's right: last time I let anyone come near my 3b/a hair with thinning shears I ended up with antennae. Took FOREVER for them to grow out!
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I have a feeling I should get a cut soon, but it almost always ends badly. I finally found someone who could do it right, but she's was a family friend who recently we had a falling out with (ignoring the fact that she lives 4 hours away!). So now I'm asking for advice.

1. I do sometimes straighten my hair, and every stylist I've been to tells me that I have to have my hair straightened for them to cut it. Obviously the heat isn't doing anything to my hair, so what should I say? Do I need to find someone that will cut my hair dry and curly?

2. The hair at the nape of my neck is a lot softer and has significantly larger curls. My mom keeps wanting to chop it down really short so it doesn't hang low beyond the rest of my hair (there is like a 2" difference). Is this really a good idea, especially since I do straighten my hair (every other week or so)?

Last edited by FluffyZGiggler; 07-17-2011 at 06:10 PM.
This thread is wonderful! Thanks to all who thought of and/or participated in it.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
I second this.
Hair type: Mixture of 3c/3b S waves with curls/ringlets at ends; shoulder length
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Cleanser: Carol's Daughter Tui shampoo (Once a week)
Conditioner: Carol's Daughter Tui hair smoothie (Once a week)
Leave in conditioner: Haven't found one that completely works for my hair (suggestions greatly appreciated).
Product wishlist: KCKT + KCCC, Ouidad products, Devacurl products.
This is exactly the kind of thread I was looking for. I'm planning to get a "real" haircut for the first time in my life. (Up till now I just trimmed the ends. Never had layers or bangs.)
I wonder if it's realistic to ask for a haircut with layers that will still go into a ponytail, along with maybe one or two clips. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.
3A, medium fine. Currently avoiding shampoos, 'cones, 'xanes and sulfates. Hair length - a bit beyond BSL. Mostly CG since July 2, 2008.
A week from Saturday I'm scheduled to have my very first curly cut from a stylist I saw recommended here on nc.com. He's had formal devacurl training and apparently has plenty of satisfied curly customers, but I'm still glad to know a little more about what I should discuss with him beforehand.

(I just wish I'd ordered my hair analysis and product recommendations from curlwizard.com earlier so I'd have that info with me for my appointment as well. But then again, if he really knows his stuff perhaps it won't matter so much.)

Very much looking forward to it!
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Great thread but I'd feel really rude explaining to the stylist the techniques how to cut my hair! Like I'm telling them how to do their job, won't it patronize them?
- Nate


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Well, the way I look at it is that you're paying someone to do a job for you, and it's not unreasonable to ask him/her to do the job the way you want it done. Some people don't deal well with that, but others respond quite well.

In my own personal experience, as a nurse, if someone wants me to do something differently than normal, I'd much rather they tell me. If it's not something I'm able to do, it gives me a chance to talk with them about that, and hopefully sort that out. But if it's something I can do, that's out of the ordinary, I'd be sad not to be asked, as there'd be virtually no way I could figure out what they want if they don't say.
Peace,
Morgan

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CGing since July 2008
All the hairstylists I've been to use thinning shears on my hair!

I didn't know it was so awful. Some of my haircuts turned out decent. The one bad experience was while on vacation. Went to a random salon, and they thinned out like 90% of my hair :O

Can I just go to my regular hair salon and tell them NOT to use thinning scissors? Or will that just make the haircut turn out worse because the stylists are used to it...
Because I've found a stylist that I think is pretty good. She takes her time, realizes that I *don't * have straight hair, and my haircuts have never turned out bad.
But she uses thinning shears. And I wonder if my hair troubles are caused by that.

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