spinoff: are black women & asian men the least desirable?(Adult)

OBB · 08-13-2009, 06:11 PM

BB wrote this in the asian women thread:

I had a race and ethnicity class in college and we reviewed a study on how different races are perceived. The things that struck me the most were that Asian women were viewed as hyper-feminine and African-American men were viewed as hyper-masculine (which makes them a threat to the ruling class - they could steal "their" women away, hence the need to keep them down). On the flip side, Asian men and African-American women had it the harshest in terms of perception - Asian men were viewed as too passive and African-American women as too aggressive. It is interesting how one half of a race is demonized while the other is almost fetishised.

as an asian male i find through life experience that this is mostty true but only in western cultures. physically we're not even close to what most women consider sexy/hot. we're not tall, little variations in eyes, noses or hair and the "package" myth. i know ill see the PC answers but honestly is appreciated. also do black women feel the same way i do?

CocoaCoily · 08-13-2009, 06:37 PM

I'll be honest and say yes, in the American mainstream at least, we would be at the bottom of the desire totem pole.

I don't think that I would have snubbed an Asian guy if we had a mutual attraction. It just never happened when I was single. Though, of course, now that I'm married, there's a cute Asian guy on my train that I check out all the time. Alas, I never got to go through all the flavors before I got hitched... Le sigh!

ninja dog · 08-13-2009, 06:47 PM

This strikes me as a real crock.

I see gorgeous AA women, and adorable Asian men all the time.

I'm baffled.

lazy loops · 08-13-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CocoaCoily

Alas, I never got to go through all the flavors before I got hitched... Le sigh!

I love it!

sarah42 · 08-13-2009, 06:52 PM

Not for everyone. I know one guy (white) who I think went into the Peace Corps in Africa so he could get a black wife. He did.

Meghuney · 08-13-2009, 06:55 PM

I don't know if it's just that they want a walk on the dark side, but I get lots of White guys hitting on me, etc.

curlyarca · 08-13-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CocoaCoily

I'll be honest and say yes, in the American mainstream at least, we would be at the bottom of the desire totem pole.

Unfortunately I have to agree that this seems to be the case....unless you have something really "it" going for you, like a British accent or something.

curlyarca · 08-13-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah42

Not for everyone. I know one guy (white) who I think went into the Peace Corps in Africa so he could get a black wife. He did.

So he married a native of some African country? Why Africa specifically (just think it's odd since there are black people here in the US, also assuming he is from the US).

subbrock · 08-13-2009, 07:00 PM

marriage rates in the US prove this to be true. black women and asian men are least likely to get married.

sarah42 · 08-13-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyarca

So he married a native of some African country? Why Africa specifically (just think it's odd since there are black people here in the US, also assuming he is from the US).

Yes, she's a black Ugandan and he's American. As for why, this is going to sound mean, and I don't mean it meanly, but he's kind of a dorky guy and I think he had better luck meeting and dating non-American girls.

goobernut · 08-13-2009, 07:26 PM

I live in my own innocent little world, and I have never personally thought in those terms.

That being said, I remember the first time I visited an east coast state, and seeing so many different types of couples. In about an hour I realized how different the demographics were in my home state. And it was so radically different, it was mindblowing lol. I mean, I saw a tall african-american woman with a shorter Indian guy holding hands. Again, in my innocent little world, it gave me a warm fuzzy knowing that love can flourish anywhere, in any form.

And it sorta made me realize how racially backward my state was.

I also regret that I never got to go through all the flavors lol. Oh, which brings me to another sorta racially charged question... I have seen on youtube a number of asian men talk about how it is taboo to date outside of their race. Do you find that to be true with your family?

Besides, I thought the whole asian male look was currently "hot" (as paris says) right now.

turtles · 08-13-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by goobernut

Besides, I thought the whole asian male look was currently "hot" (as paris says) right now.

I THOUGHT THAT TOO!!! I see fine Asian men all the time, I see it like this: your either hot or your not. just my opinion.

My brother once said " I don't date black girls, their too loud and always have attitudes" (we are mixed)

oh the stereotypes...

KinkyKeeper · 08-13-2009, 07:54 PM

Yes. They are the two groups people snub most often. This is a funny blog about it *warning: it has naughty language*
http://www.cintrawilson.com/dregs/20...n****ables.php
Tuesday, June 17, 2008

The Un****ables: Asian Men, Black Women Surprisingly Pissed Over Interracial Dating

posted by The Black Snob at 2:16 PM
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In America and if you're a man who enjoys getting head it really helps, statistically, if you're a white guy. You have way more options because something must be magical about white dick considering when it comes to interracial dating for Asian and Latina women, white penis is where it is at.
If you're not white and you want to get ass, being a black guy is the next best thing. ****ing a black guy is still the number one way to piss your parents off if you're a white girl. But statistically the one man in America no one wants a triple X throwdown with is sideshow William Hung, actor John Cho and a multitude of their Asian American male counterparts.
I didn't know anyone could be more pissed about interracial dating than black women, but Asian American men give us sisters a run for our Haterade. While it doesn't bother me much, a lot of black girls treat every stringy haired, flat-assed, orange fake tan Aryan Goddess like Buffy the Negro Slayer.
But color me surprised, the Asian man wants to put a foot in the ass of every white boy coveting their shojo princesses.
A few years back I started reading blogs and internet forums by Asian American men and I learned that they were crying out in silent pain over what is the mantra of both our kind:
No one wants to **** us.
Now technically, some people want to **** black women, but usually that becomes "**** over." But East Asian women date outside their race at a much higher rate than black men or women. As for black women we hardly date outside of their race no matter how high up we go careerwise. To this day black magazines write articles suggesting successful black women to consider "marrying down" by ****ing a plumber or a guy who sells mixtapes at the swamp meet. So what if you have an MBA from Harvard? That cat on fries looks like he could get us pregnant before we hit forty.
For the sisters if it ain't black they don't want it. It's Negro or nothing.

Asian men just want the benefit black and white men get. They want to be ****ed. They want to be desired. No white or black girls are dreaming about swallowing an Asian man whole. Everyone is a fetish but them. (Well, the gays have an Asian man fetish, but that really doesn't help the rice grinder riders who like *****.) They want girls to want to give them head too. They want a ****ing date. And this **** isn't a joke, this time, it's personal.

You can sell post-feminist Americans on men who can keep their jobs, treat women well just because they're supposed to, and won't run off with some other girl after 2 years leaving you holding the house and kids. (Of course that's a lie too...) And then there's the final option ... Just grab your trusty AK-47 and simply fill every goddamn racist white male SOB full of lead and tell them to keep their !@#$ hands off of Asian women. It's your move.

It's hard to live down the stereotype that Asian guys are controlling, mama boy nerds with limited penis power and suffer from a bad case of "Otaku wuss."
A few Asians commenting on the message boards noticed that black women can't get a date either and suggested the obvious: a black woman/Asian man case of Yellow Dengue Fever. And while this sounds delicious to me, black women are notoriously intimidating. (Re: Negro or nothing!) I know I scare the **** about of men all the time. But I say try anyway. I mean, I've checked out some Korean boys and thought "I'd hit that," so live dangerously, Asian man.
But I realize most won't take the black bait because of the myth of the Negresses being undesirable (we're apparently butch harridans) and how we all must be used to being ****ed by monster cocks.
Try as one might, you can't explain to the men of America that the dick thing is overrated and that it's "open season" on at least trying to love up the black girl. But apparently the black man put a "hands off" sign on all of us and for some reason everyone respects it. Which is odd given that the minute they stopped getting hung for it black men started ignoring the hands-off signs on white women.
But my Asian brothers, try not to dwell too much on it. After all you don't want to be forever bitter like black women who are still all sour patches over Tiger Woods, who technically is insulting three ethnicities with his wife, Elin, the ultimate fembot. Tiger dissed black women, Asian women and White American women. Us all filled with impurities, he had to find the WHITEST WHITE WOMAN IN THE WORLD OF WHITE WOMEN, venturing the valley of the Nordic blond in Europe to find his prize. She's so pure if you cut her she'd bleed unicorns and Summer's Eve.
Which would explain why she always looks like a douche to me.
But, oops. I let the bitterness slip. Yeah for black men ****ing white women. Whoo-hoo.

On the suface white guys who love Asian women but would be embarrased to tell his friends he is dating a *gasp* Black female (we are really hated on in American society) will say it's the shape of the eyes or something just like when guys diss Black women they make it about our "attitudes" or hair or some superficial aspect of us.

But I'm just gonna say it. It's hard not to notice who the most desirable (in terms of Non-White interriacial dating) and least desirable are (Asian women/Black males and Black women/Asian men respectively) corresponds to the penis size myth. HUGE GENERALIZATION COMING UP: White guys who want an Asian chick want them not becuase of their accent or the shape of their eyes, they want them becuase they have been told that Asian men's penis' are small. They want to feel huge in bed and think they will be more with an Asian female. Now I am not the kind of person who thinks about this kind of stuff on my own, guys would be surprised that there are women out there who don't care about this stuff. No, the person who first started me thinking about penis size (which supposedly goes Black men, White men,then Asian men) was a White guy I know. He loves to talk about how big Black guy's penis are supposed to be and how small Asian men's is supposed to be. Then once I wondered onto some youtube videos with angry Asian guys talking about how they can't get a date becuase they are Asian men (striking a chord with me since my White female friends have gotten way more dates than I have just for being White, and I have had so many guys diss me becuase I am Black but slobber after White and even Asian men) and then other blogs/videos with people comparing Black women and Asian men, I put two and two together. The Black female gets dissed for superficial reasons publicly but deep down it's really becuase men in the back of their mind have the belief that Black men are biggest in the pants and if Black female don't have large vaginas from this, they at the very least are used to a big penis. And they are too insecure to face this fear. Another thing that helped this flash bulb go off in my head is that the very same White guy who loved to talk about the penis size myth also exclusively dated Asian women.

So yes, I would say from what I have experience and seen and statistics, that Black females and Asian males are the least desirable, in American society at least. Now I wouldn't say people necessarily think of penis/vagina size size but they might say things that correspond directly back to this "Black women are bossy, too strong, too loud, ball busters" "Asian men are too passive, quiet, geeky". Black women have become masculinized and Asian men have been femininized. And it can't be a coincidence that Black men are most masculinized and Asian women most feminized.

BUT are the "most desirable" really desirable? I think they are actually more fetishized than anything. I have constantly said I felt bad for Asian women who have to put up with men who think they are gonna get a servant geisha or something by dating them. Or Black men who have to put up with women who want to see if they are really as good in bed as society says they are.

Windflower · 08-13-2009, 08:00 PM

KinkyKeeper,
the link isn't working.

curlyarca · 08-13-2009, 08:01 PM

You have to fill in the asterisks (it's the f bomb....unf***ables).

KinkyKeeper · 08-13-2009, 08:03 PM

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KinkyKeeper,
the link isn't working.

I made it purple. OBB let me know if you want me to make it white again so you don't have to adultify this thread.

KinkyKeeper · 08-13-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyarca

You have to fill in the asterisks (it's the f bomb....unf***ables).

yeah what Curly said, in the URL fill in the F word, I guess it won't link with the asteriks blanking it out.

Amneris · 08-13-2009, 08:09 PM

In general, yes for Black women, although of course we're all going to know (or be) a lot of exceptions.

I'm not sure about Asian men. They may be less desirable for interracial relationships but I'm not sure if they are less desirable to Asian women. There seem to be plenty of Asian women who want Asian men.

However, for Black women, not only are we less desirable to other races but often, sadly, to our own.

curlyarca · 08-13-2009, 08:20 PM

That article is all kinds of offensive. Ugh.

I do get the points, but dang. That is horrible. Rice grinder? That makes my skin crawl...

I think you should white that out again.

KinkyKeeper · 08-13-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyarca

That article is all kinds of offensive. Ugh.

I do get the points, but dang. That is horrible. Rice grinder? That makes my skin crawl...

I think you should white that out again.

I think she was being satirical but I could be wrong.