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Old 05-28-2012, 02:46 PM   #1
 
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Default Chemical straightening side affects

When I looked for any information on the boards about this, I saw a little information on the actual website, but nothing much on the boards. The article mentioned one of the worst side affects, loosing about 50% of your hair density, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this or has experienced it?

I did this to my hair when I was very young(around 11) because my hair was out of control and I live in south Florida so the insane humidity wreaked havoc on my hair! I'm now 20 so the hair that was processed has definitely been cut off, but I'm wondering what the long term side affects are. And also if there is anything I can start doing to gain back some of the hair mass/density that I used to have? I've heard a PT treatment would help but I'm new and not entirely sure how to do that.

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Old 06-16-2012, 12:11 PM   #2
 
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I do not think there will be any long term side effects, especially if all the processed hair is cut off. The damaged hair is cut and has nothing to do with the "new" hair that has grown in.

If your hair density has changed it may not be due to the chemical straightening. Some people's texture, density, etc. change during and after puberty.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:11 AM   #3
 
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I'm sure there can be, and is, long term effects. I know that if the relaxer damages your hair follicle, it can change your hair forever.
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I'm not sure if it's because I rebonded my hair.. But I used to have really thick and dense hair, but ever since I've been trying to grow it out and cut most of it off, my hair seems less full and more limp. It looks kind of flat now. but maybe I just need to take care of it more
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:58 PM   #5
 
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how often and how long did you rebond your hair?

also it may be the products you are using are different then when you were younger.
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how often and how long did you rebond your hair?

also it may be the products you are using are different then when you were younger.
I only rebonded it the one time.. And I absolutely regretted it.. I never really like straight hair on me. Anyways, what do you mean how long? Like the actual process? Then I think it was for at least 30 minutes to 2 hours.. Sorry, I didn't pay attention. It was my mom who decided it. While I was trying to grow it out, I tried the cg method and no poo to try and make it curl again, and it did help. But since I've been swimming recently I've been using shampoo again, the exact and only product I pretty much used before rebonding my hair.. So I'm still not sure.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:43 AM   #7
 
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First of all, if I had 2c hair like yours I WOULD NOT STRAIGHTEN IT. i have 3 b/c hair which is less attractive naturally so something is required to achieve a public worthy hairstyle.

the only straightening products I can successfullyuse on my hair are:
Conair One 'n Only Thermal Ionic Permanent Hair Straightener - Tinted/Highlight/Bleach
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Quantum Thermal Straightener For Color Treated Hair

They are both considered Japanese chemical hair straighteners.

both available from Sally's

They are both very gentle and VERY safe on my hair.
when I used the regular lye and no lye hair relaxers my hair literally dissolved and fell out, and I have very fine 3 b/c hair.

But with those 2 products above I can straighten my hair and even color it from off black to honey blonde. I do not straighten it more often than every 3 months however. Sometimes 4-5 months. and I do not color more often than every 2 months. No 30 volume peroxide or streaks though... only 20 volume peroxide.

I wrap my hair like a bee hive and cover it at night so I do not have to use a blow dryer to straighten any wrinkles out in the morning. So far this is working GREAT for me for several years now.

If I blow dry my hair straight daily with no chemical it gets burn off and falls out. Feels like straw too.

If I use sodium hydroxide (lye) or calcium hydroxide (no lye) relaxers... it looks totally burnt, fried and destroyed and then it falls out.

But color treated Japanese thermal hair straightener products work wonderfully and the hair feels really good. My hair looks healthy alive, shiny, silky and feels soft with Japanese chemical hair straighteners from Sally's for the past few years.
I only leave the first step on about 15-30 minutes, rinse it out, flat iron it (only for this chemical process) THEN put on the neutralizer for 1/2 hour. So the day I do this requires at least an hour. But its worth it.

PS IF i go too long between straighteners and have to blow dry it smooth in the mornings, the heat starts ruining my hair. So it is best to go on and touch up the new growth to be gentler on the hair in the long run so I do not have to use heat on my hair.
So in essence, I find that HEAT of a normal blow dryer is far more damaging to hair than either of the above 2 straightening chemicals that I use.

With regard to your hair losing about 50% of its density of course straight hair is flatter than puffy curly hair. lol That is definitely the case even though zero hair falls out, it will just lay flatter. So if you want BIG hair, stay with your body wave pattern.
Again, if I were you I would not even consider straightening my hair because it is naturally very aesthetically pleasing. More attractive than stick straight flat limp hair and more attractive IMO than frizzy tight curly hair. Your hair is what I wish I had naturally. So leave it be and be happy. Move on to something else in your life.

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Old 02-11-2013, 12:18 PM   #8
 
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First of all, if I had 2c hair like yours I WOULD NOT STRAIGHTEN IT. i have 3 b/c hair which is less attractive naturally so something is required to achieve a public worthy hairstyle.

the only straightening products I can successfullyuse on my hair are:
Conair One 'n Only Thermal Ionic Permanent Hair Straightener - Tinted/Highlight/Bleach
or
Quantum Thermal Straightener For Color Treated Hair

They are both considered Japanese chemical hair straighteners.

both available from Sally's

They are both very gentle and VERY safe on my hair.
when I used the regular lye and no lye hair relaxers my hair literally dissolved and fell out, and I have very fine 3 b/c hair.

But with those 2 products above I can straighten my hair and even color it from off black to honey blonde. I do not straighten it more often than every 3 months however. Sometimes 4-5 months. and I do not color more often than every 2 months. No 30 volume peroxide or streaks though... only 20 volume peroxide.

I wrap my hair like a bee hive and cover it at night so I do not have to use a blow dryer to straighten any wrinkles out in the morning. So far this is working GREAT for me for several years now.

If I blow dry my hair straight daily with no chemical it gets burn off and falls out. Feels like straw too.

If I use sodium hydroxide (lye) or calcium hydroxide (no lye) relaxers... it looks totally burnt, fried and destroyed and then it falls out.

But color treated Japanese thermal hair straightener products work wonderfully and the hair feels really good. My hair looks healthy alive, shiny, silky and feels soft with Japanese chemical hair straighteners from Sally's for the past few years.
I only leave the first step on about 15-30 minutes, rinse it out, flat iron it (only for this chemical process) THEN put on the neutralizer for 1/2 hour. So the day I do this requires at least an hour. But its worth it.

PS IF i go too long between straighteners and have to blow dry it smooth in the mornings, the heat starts ruining my hair. So it is best to go on and touch up the new growth to be gentler on the hair in the long run so I do not have to use heat on my hair.
So in essence, I find that HEAT of a normal blow dryer is far more damaging to hair than either of the above 2 straightening chemicals that I use.

With regard to your hair losing about 50% of its density of course straight hair is flatter than puffy curly hair. lol That is definitely the case even though zero hair falls out, it will just lay flatter. So if you want BIG hair, stay with your body wave pattern.
Again, if I were you I would not even consider straightening my hair because it is naturally very aesthetically pleasing. More attractive than stick straight flat limp hair and more attractive IMO than frizzy tight curly hair. Your hair is what I wish I had naturally. So leave it be and be happy. Move on to something else in your life.
What? 3b/c hair is not 'naturally less attractive'! If you feel that way about your own hair, that's sad enough but don't make the rest of us feel bad too.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:39 PM   #9
 
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Please don't feel that way. 3b/c even 4a-c hair look great on other people I admire them so much for being able to pull it off. I just don't like how it looks on me.... I think my cheeks are too wide to pull it off or something lol.
But I really LOVE curly hair on so many of you on here. Yours in fact is beautiful. One thing is I cut bangs and layer across the front (which was a mistake) so now I need it straight so it doesnt look too short in the front around my face.
It just doesnt frame my face right being this short in the front. But I think once mine gets long enough to hang over the cheek like yours does, I would consider letting it grow out maybe???
I am really jealous in fact that so many can pull it off and it looks nice. Mine just never looks nice like theirs

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Chemical straightening can thin out hair, make it dry, and make it limp and lifeless. Most people that I've known who have used damaging chemicals in their hair have found that it can never be restored to how it was before they started using chemicals on it.
I should think it depends on your hair type, though. Very very thick hair may not take such a blow and may not be as thin, whereas hair that was thin to start with may become straw-like. At least, in my experience, this sort of thing has happened.
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Chemical straightening can thin out hair, make it dry, and make it limp and lifeless. Most people that I've known who have used damaging chemicals in their hair have found that it can never be restored to how it was before they started using chemicals on it.
This is true for me. I used chemicals to straighten my hair when I was younger. It was a fun way to change my appearance. The sort term side effects was a burned area of my scalp at the dome of my head. My scalp become more dry and itchy to the point of hair loss and bleeding.

Overtime I managed to treat the problem after having tried a multitude of hair and scalp treatment products. When I stopped using straightening products it took about 3 years for the hair to recover to a natural and healthy afro that didn't need moisturizers to look healthy - a good conditioner goes a long way in helping your hair recover.

Now, approximately 7-8 years since I first used conditioners my afro is fine, I don't have a bald-path developing on my dome, however my hair is a bit thinner than what it should be, but overall I'm happy with the hair. Again, quality shampoo and conditioners helped a long way.
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There are side effects, at least there was on my hair. I relaxed for 3 years and my hair is thinner than it was, (shorter naturally) and I just changed my entire curl pattern.
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