3a to 2B: Is it possible?

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  • 1 Post By kimmidawn
  • 1 Post By uncomplicated

Sometime on these forums, I feel like the strange one. Most people are comfortable with their curls and want them to be curlier! I however, want loooooooser curls. After reading so much, it seems like there is not much information on here for my Italian/french Canadian curls.

I've had two Brazilian blowouts: one of the express 1 month ones, and the longer 5 month one. The results were okay to great at first, but now my hair seems to be curlier than ever.

My brother, who just graduated from cosmetology school, had half joked half seriously mentioned a Spanish blowout or a relaxer but I know nothing about them.

TL;DR: anyway. What would you recommend for a 3a to get generally looser curls?

3a
Fine texture
Normal density
Med-High Porosity
Long length

Last edited by apaquet; 07-02-2012 at 10:30 AM. Reason: Forgot to mention
I've heard that if you rake your products through instead of scrunching them in, it can help to give you a looser wave pattern. However, I don't know how much that will work since I've never tried it.
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I've had success using KCCC applied to soaking wet hair after CO washing (raking only, no scrunching) and let air dry. My hair is very fine though and KCCC relaxes my curls even with scrunching, because it's too heavy for my hair type. That may be the first thing to try. Find a product too heavy for your hair type that's made for lengthening or loosening curl and make sure your hair is very moisturized. You might also want to apply a heavier oil or conditioner to your soaking wet hair and then the styler on top of that.

I love what curls I have and alternate between using products to enhance the curls and using curl-safe products (like KCCC) to loosen the curls for a different look. It may take some trial and error on your part to find products that work for you. Another thing, my underlayer is naturally straight and only the canopy is curly, so you may have different results depending on your own hair.
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I have actually achieved this; that being said I feel it would be unfair not to tell you right off the bat that what works for one person does not necessarily mean it will work for the next. Our hair types are different (see mine in my signature down below,) but I will tell you what worked for me. First off, I began with a pixie cut I had kept for about half a year, so my hair was free from all damages other than your regular sulfates and cones from the shampoo and conditioner I was using. Before that, I had straightened my damaged, dry, brittle, frizzy, wiry 3A/2C pattern hair daily for about 2 years. I had my last hair cut sometime in the beginning of December though I made the decision to grow my hair long again in the beginning of this year. I switched to all-natural hair solutions in March, baking soda and apple cider vinegar. Immediately I noticed a difference in my hair, which wasn't that long, it still isn't that long, but long enough that I noticed a difference in the hair I knew all too well. It became healthy, soft, smooth and virtually frizz-free, as well as relaxed (fairly heavy wave in it still.) I should mention too that before my curly pattern did not straighten out near the root, and in fact when I had my pixie cut of 1 inch or less it was still obvious I had curly or at least heavily wavy hair. A week ago I would have said my hair was mainly 2C with some 2B underneath/in the back, and that was simply from my hair becoming healthy, soft and smooth by using all-natural solutions to wash my hair twice a week for about 3 months. Recently I heard about a using a coconut cream mask as a relaxer. You're supposed to leave it in for 20 minutes before washing your hair in the shower. I did this for the first time 2 nights ago. The morning after I had washed and slept on it, my hair looked and felt great, the coconut cream worked as an amazing moisturizer, though I woke up to the top part of my head which has been the waviest part of my hair more curly than it was before I washed it. Not the same dry damaged curl I had lived with for years, it felt so nice and smooth that I really didn't even mind. I combed it as I would have normally that day, and this morning after combing it-- amazing! I would say my entire head of hair now at 5 inches is somewhere between a 2B and 2C, I am so pleased. The coconut cream mask is only supposed to last until your next wash, so I will be repeating the mask process for each of my showers when I wash my hair. Also what I want to try is a boar bristle brush. They supposedly work best as far as spreading the natural oils in your hair down the hair shaft thus taming the frizz and some people have sworn by the fact it also loosens up their curls, so I'm going to try and get a hold of one of those and I'll post my review on the boards or that as well. It would simply be the icing on the cake as far as the amazing change my hair has made in only a few short months. But again, that's only been my experience. Also what should be noted is I use only a very small pinch of Argan oil after my hair washes, this has also been said to loosen curl pattern mainly as it is both moisturizing as well as a semi-heavy oil. With my regime of coconut cream, baking soda and vinegar though, I don't recommend using too much oil, if any, unless you're hair is as susceptible to being dry as mine is. Again, this has only been my experience thus far, and I continue to experiment. Any questions though, don't hesitate to ask!
texture: 2c/2b
density: high
porosity: low-medium
width: medium-coarse
regime (x2 weekly coconut cream mask, baking soda cleanse, acv rinse, argan oil leave-in

all-natural hair care since 03/12
growing out pixie cut since
01/12
5 inches as of
07/12
Dames, is it just straight coconut cream that you use? Nothing added to it? Where do you get it from? Thanks!

One other note to whoever is interested in this thread: When I first started out with taking better care of my hair, I had a good strong (though frizzy and dry) 3a spiral pattern on the canopy. Over time, with conditioner only washes, using henna and who knows what hormone changes (I'm 40 next month), my curl pattern has loosened to waves with a few curls in the canopy (my underlayer was always straight). If I want more curl these days, I have to use a curl-enhancing product and finger-coil my hair.
Dames, is it just straight coconut cream that you use? Nothing added to it? Where do you get it from? Thanks!

One other note to whoever is interested in this thread: When I first started out with taking better care of my hair, I had a good strong (though frizzy and dry) 3a spiral pattern on the canopy. Over time, with conditioner only washes, using henna and who knows what hormone changes (I'm 40 next month), my curl pattern has loosened to waves with a few curls in the canopy (my underlayer was always straight). If I want more curl these days, I have to use a curl-enhancing product and finger-coil my hair.
Originally Posted by uncomplicated
Yup, you can actually use coconut cream or milk, cream just being the higher concentrate of the two. What I love about it also is that the coconut milk/cream you buy in a can naturally separates from the heavier water and rises to the top, becoming a thick sort of paste you can apply to your hair instead of a liquid. I bought mine in a regular sized soup can for about $4 bucks (CAD) in the first grocery store I went to. If your hair is dry, then contrary to what I said in my earlier post, I would recommend using some oil. When my hair is dry it is very 'fluffy' as it mostly affects the ends that seem to bounce up, while the oil seems to work at moisturizing and keeping those ends down and grouped with the rest of my hair. I tried really hard to find an old picture showing my 3A, frizzy damaged hair to show you the difference in the hair, but I couldn't find one on this computer.
texture: 2c/2b
density: high
porosity: low-medium
width: medium-coarse
regime (x2 weekly coconut cream mask, baking soda cleanse, acv rinse, argan oil leave-in

all-natural hair care since 03/12
growing out pixie cut since
01/12
5 inches as of
07/12
I've had success using KCCC a.
Originally Posted by uncomplicated
This may be silly, but what is KCCC?
KCCC = Kinky Curly Curling Custard

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