Phyto Relaxer

hello everyone,

I'm thinking about using phyto relaxer to soften my hair. Please let me know if you have tried this product? Also can i still do a two strand twist after using this product. What's the difference between this product and a texturizer?
It is a great relaxer. It did cause me some dryness/damage but my hair was not in great shape when I did it -- in other words, it was my fault not the relaxer's. It got my hair super straight and it felt really soft. But as with any chemical process you have to be very careful.

This is a relaxer, not a texturizer in that it won't just make your hair soft, it will take all the curl out--in my case it left me pin-straight.
Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.
Golden,

There are two levels of the photospecific relaxer....Type 1 and 2. I have Type 1 and LOVE IT!! My hair is NOT straight and my hair is much softer. Type 1 is designed to act like a 'texturizer' in that it is the mildest of the two types. My hair still has its texture (afro)... my curls are just looser (if that makes sense). With Type 1, you could wear your hair straight by blow drying and flat ironing it out. Type 2 WILL make your hair bone straight (no curly option). you shouldn't go for SUPER straight as that may be too much for the hair and will cause dryness and breakage. If you want to loosen your curl pattern while maintaining your texture, then I would opt for Type 1, and let a professional do it. someone who knows curly hair and how the photorelaxer works with our hair. I read that there is a salon in DC called Revive (AVEDA salon) and a stylist named Yodit... she knows phyto and curly hair. So, if you dont want to go to NYC, I would try her. you can google her and you will see that she is well known.

Not sure how long your hair is, but you can check out my fotki.. my hair is short.

Good luck!!
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Henna, Afro Detangler, KBB hair cream, Vitamin E oil, Qhemet AOHC, AND no more letting my hair dry curly... darn knots are driving me crazy!!

http://public.fotki.com/denisemounie/
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I'd like to try phyto and id like my hair to be softer and shinier and straighter...i mean i want it to be more or less straight. My hair is probably 3a now that its short maybe even 3b. I would like to use the type 1 product to straighten my hair (if that will work) even though my hair isnt "delicate"...it just seems like the kind for thin hair would be less damaging and would still leave it somewhat curly or wavy or something. I know everyone who's tried type 2 has ended up with straight results.
I strongly recommend the ORS as a cheaper alternative to Phtyo. I actually liked my results better. (Note: I did add olive oil and Hot Six oil to the mix, that may have helped too.)
Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.
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I strongly recommend the ORS as a cheaper alternative to Phtyo. I actually liked my results better. (Note: I did add olive oil and Hot Six oil to the mix, that may have helped too.)
Originally Posted by PrettyPorcupine
Did you do it as a touch up or to your whole hair? Also, could it be left on for a shorter amount of time so I dont get a completely straight look?
I've been using pythospecific index II since 2005 and it is superiour to any relaxer I've tried. It is definitely worth the money.
My hair has never been so soft, strong and shiney with any other erlaxer.
My hair is very fine and fragile so it gets straight right away, I apply then rinse out with no waiting time.

But of course, now I'm bored of low-maintance (go figure) and might become natural again.
Not due to the relaxer in any way, more due to my own restless nature.

I highly recommend PYTHOSPECIFIC relaxers!
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I've been using pythospecific index II since 2005 and it is superiour to any relaxer I've tried. It is definitely worth the money.
My hair has never been so soft, strong and shiney with any other erlaxer.
My hair is very fine and fragile so it gets straight right away, I apply then rinse out with no waiting time.

But of course, now I'm bored of low-maintance (go figure) and might become natural again.
Not due to the relaxer in any way, more due to my own restless nature.

I highly recommend PYTHOSPECIFIC relaxers!
Originally Posted by ninadef
I can see that it got your hair very straight! I have no doubt that it works but I was wondering whether I could use to phytorelaxer index 1 and get similar results? (im not african american but my hair is very curly)
I've been using pythospecific index II since 2005 and it is superiour to any relaxer I've tried. It is definitely worth the money.
My hair has never been so soft, strong and shiney with any other erlaxer.
My hair is very fine and fragile so it gets straight right away, I apply then rinse out with no waiting time.

But of course, now I'm bored of low-maintance (go figure) and might become natural again.
Not due to the relaxer in any way, more due to my own restless nature.

I highly recommend PYTHOSPECIFIC relaxers!
Originally Posted by ninadef
I can see that it got your hair very straight! I have no doubt that it works but I was wondering whether I could use to phytorelaxer index 1 and get similar results? (im not african american but my hair is very curly)
Originally Posted by keikok
I think you could... since you have 3b/3a curls, just dont leave it on very long. you could do a strand test or take the box to your stylist and have he/she do it!
4a/4b... at this point, Henna has to be my friend, cause I've tried EVERYTHING else!!

Henna, Afro Detangler, KBB hair cream, Vitamin E oil, Qhemet AOHC, AND no more letting my hair dry curly... darn knots are driving me crazy!!

http://public.fotki.com/denisemounie/
Don't get me wrong, I think Phyto is outstanding, I just think ORS is almost as good for a lower price. Also Phyto's deceptive advertising about their relaxer peeves me off big time. But it does do a good job!

Keiko, I no longer do my whole head when relaxing, just the front and crown, and I left the relaxer on the rest of my hair about five-six minutes. This was hair that hadn't been relaxed in over a year, so it wasn't a touch-up, more like a first-time.

Yes, if you leave it on a shorter time you'll have a smooth but not straight result. That's how most of my hair is, where I only left it on a few minutes. The curls are softer and frizz is gone. Obviously you also get less damage leaving it on less time.
Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.
Don't get me wrong, I think Phyto is outstanding, I just think ORS is almost as good for a lower price. Also Phyto's deceptive advertising about their relaxer peeves me off big time. But it does do a good job!

Keiko, I no longer do my whole head when relaxing, just the front and crown, and I left the relaxer on the rest of my hair about five-six minutes. This was hair that hadn't been relaxed in over a year, so it wasn't a touch-up, more like a first-time.

Yes, if you leave it on a shorter time you'll have a smooth but not straight result. That's how most of my hair is, where I only left it on a few minutes. The curls are softer and frizz is gone. Obviously you also get less damage leaving it on less time.
Originally Posted by PrettyPorcupine
what's ORS?

Yeah, I was thinking no longer than 5 mins too...
4a/4b... at this point, Henna has to be my friend, cause I've tried EVERYTHING else!!

Henna, Afro Detangler, KBB hair cream, Vitamin E oil, Qhemet AOHC, AND no more letting my hair dry curly... darn knots are driving me crazy!!

http://public.fotki.com/denisemounie/
ORS is Organic Root Stimulator, or as I call it, the outstanding product line with a weird name. I haven't found one ORS product I don't like. They make a lye-based and non-lye relaxer and include a vial of olive oil which is supposed to reduce damage.
Modified CG. You'll pry my 'cones from my cold dead fingers! Mixed waves, coarse, below shoulder length, dark brown. I hate my hair but I'm trying to learn to accept it.

Gels: LA Looks Wet Look Styling Gel, Garnier Fructis Wet Shine Gel. Condish: Alberto V05 Free Me Fresia, Tresemme' Flawless Curls, LVPNG, Neutrogena Triple Moisture. Shampoo: Tresemme' Flawless Curls. Silicone Serum: Whatever is on sale, but I don't leave home without it.

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