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Old 03-19-2009, 12:37 PM   #161
 
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I have to say, the results weren't what I was looking for. First of all I have like 3c 3b hair and it was just bad for me, maybe I'm protein sensitive, but it relaxed my curl too much (I miss my ringlets ...) and it also did NOT cut down on my straitening time at all. Not one bit. I can't wait for it to wear off. Hopefully it didn't destroy my natural curls because they were much prettier then the mess I have now. I'm still frizzy and I thought the products smelled like dog shampoo.

I think this stuff works much better for somone with a 3a and under.

I can't wait for it to wear off. Maybe I'll wash my hair with sodium chloride stuff everyday for the next month!
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I have to say, the results weren't what I was looking for. First of all I have like 3c 3b hair and it was just bad for me, maybe I'm protein sensitive, but it relaxed my curl too much (I miss my ringlets ...) and it also did NOT cut down on my straitening time at all. Not one bit. I can't wait for it to wear off. Hopefully it didn't destroy my natural curls because they were much prettier then the mess I have now. I'm still frizzy and I thought the products smelled like dog shampoo.

I think this stuff works much better for somone with a 3a and under.

I can't wait for it to wear off. Maybe I'll wash my hair with sodium chloride stuff everyday for the next month!
Hey WhitRayeRob, I'm trying to find some more info for you. I'm so sorry this didn't work out for you. I think you need a few more weeks before this stuff is completely out of your hair. I would keep doing deep conditioning treatments like crazy and co-washing to see if it helps get rid of it faster.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:08 PM   #163
 
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Default Beware!!! if you have blonde hair or highlights

This product turned my hair a horrible bright orange color and it is not fading after three days and 8 washes. I followed instructions to the T. I waited the time stated for colored hair and did the strand test. My costly hair coloring is ruined and the results were not significant. I am not worried about the mystery ingedient that is basically [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Oxalaldehyde. Save your money, your hair and possibly even your health. [/FONT]

(P.S. I am also suspicious of allegedly pedestrian and yet sooo intimate product knowledge from some of the posts on this thread)
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:57 PM   #164
 
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Can anyone compare using liquid keratin and using a texturizer? My daughter has 3c/3b combination hair and I want to loosen the hair a bit but not lose her curls. What would be best?
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:37 AM   #165
 
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Default Liquid Keratin - will it get back to normal after 30 days?

Girls,
in case I want my original hair texture back, will it go back to normal after the 30 days? or will I have to grow/cut it out?

Thank you!
PS: all the reviews have been VERY helpful!
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Old 04-23-2009, 09:44 AM   #166
 
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OK - after LK sitting in my scraproom for 6 weeks, my DD & I decided to take the plunge and try it on her hair. I only used about 3/4 of the bottle on her and I'm hoping that it will work!

I'll update after the blow dry and iron..........


It looks great on her and it's very soft. It didn't smell, burn her hair or any of the bad reviews that I've read - maybe because I was super careful and the flat iron was not on high (I used the Chi). So far so good.

As much as I've heard raves about the Brazilian, I've also heard that it leaves the hair very straight and my DD doesn't want it completely straight.

I saw the Brazilian on a Mom from my DD dance school whose hair is similar to mine and her hair is really straight and doesn't seem to have any curl whatsoever not even on the ends - is that normal?

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Old 04-23-2009, 10:57 AM   #167
 
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This link reviews LK, another at home Keratin treatment, and the professional brazilian keratin treatment. It also picks the top shampoos and conditioners to use. ( LK got a lousy review )

http://www.squidoo.com/BenefitsBrazi...nTreatmentHair

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Old 04-23-2009, 11:47 AM   #168
 
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My advice is don't buy LK, an inferior product.
Real Brazilian Keratin Treatment solution actually costs less than LK, about $35 per treatment.

If you can't afford $350 for a professional BKT treatment, go to a beauty school and get a recent grad to do it for $75.

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Old 04-23-2009, 12:05 PM   #169
 
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If you have any concerns about Formaldehyde in BKT, read this. It's very enlightening:

http://keratinpower.com/?gclid=CMeom...FQ_yDAodVmNdFw

What is "Formaldehyde Free"?
An open letter regarding marketing and information based upon
BRAZILIAN KERATIN BASED PRODUCTS
Although formaldehyde is not listed as an ingredient in our products, we do not advertise them as "formaldehyde free". This is mainly because in the US there is currently a great deal of confusion and false advertising regarding formaldehyde. We feel that advertising genuine Brazilian Keratin products as "formaldehyde free" is usually a disingenuous marketing gimmick, and potentially even harmful. You may have heard that many, if not all "formaldehyde free" BKT products actually still carry significant amounts of substances that are either formaldehyde under a different name, or a slightly altered form of formaldehyde. It is true. The first problem is the basic dishonesty of the marketing. The second problem is the fact that if stylists and their clients think that a product is formaldehyde free, they may not follow the same stringent safety protocols as they would with standard formaldehyde products. This is compounded by the fact that many of these brews, whether ether, aldehydes, urea, or similar mixes, absolutely share the characteristics of, or convert into, a potent cousin of formaldehyde. Often the resulting compound, when heated converts into a form of raw unrefined formaldehyde.
You might look at the "Qod and formaldehyde" section of or website for further information. Unfortunately, since we strive to maintain corporate honesty, it can be a bit more complicated than telling people what they want to hear.
How can stylists navigate this confusing mix of contradictory information? Its relatively simple; If a Brazilian Keratin product greatly reduces volume and maintains smooth shine and a reduction in volume for several months, it either has formaldehyde or a similar aldehyde. If something is called a "formaldehyde free" Brazilian Keratin formula, and it lasts only until the next washing, than it may truly be without Formaldehyde or any derivatives.
We have led the world in Brazilian Keratin reconditioning products for a decade, and our research facilities and testing are unmatched. The bottom line is that there is not a "magic formula". It does not exist. Any genuinely effective Brazilian Keratin either has a type of aldehyde or a derivative - there is no short cut

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Old 04-25-2009, 09:57 PM   #170
 
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Iím going to do this myself and save $$$. The hardest part is 400 degree flat ironing 10 times each section. This will burn your hands so I bought heat gloves and a Tension Comb recommended by BKT companies. The video below is the best instructional video for BKT.

Tension Comb:
http://www.folica.com/TS_2_Tension_Co_d5127.html
Video showing how to use Tension Comb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhbnJphUDww

I'm going to give myself a professional BKT that lasts for 3 months for under 25 bucks!

Don't buy LK. It's a terrible product.
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:38 AM   #171
 
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Wow, Thanks Liv Luv,
I just ordered the Coppola Treatment online and planned to do it myself, but never saw anything like that comb. Great thing to help since I'm horrible with a flat iron. It's a fairly simple procedure though and I really don't care if my hair is not stick straight. All the stylists around me are charging $400 and up.
I've used the LK several times and it's probably good practice if nothing else.
Thanks for the links!!
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:44 PM   #172
 
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Hi everyone...i have been reading posts/lurking on this site forever, and just created a username so that i can thank everyone who posted on the later pages in this thread- I saw the ad for Liquid Keratin in instyle magazine and got so excited (i've been wanting to try brazilian or bio ionic straightening) that i would have bought it and used it if not for reading about your experiences...and probably would have ruined my hair. So thank you, you guys are the best!
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:26 PM   #173
 
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Audeo ...... Yep, LK is great practice. I normally flat iron at 250 degrees with 2 strokes, so I tried flat ironing at 400 with 10 strokes, and my left hand was burning even with a heat glove on. I ordered a pro heat glove which is missing the ring and pinkie finger, so I cut the ring and pinkie off the glove that came with my iron and it works much better. If you are good with the tension comb you don't need a glove. I'm not sure what will be easiest for me, so I have both options. I also ordered a paddle brush and crane clips for long thick hair. It looks like you and I are the first brave souls to attempt a professional BKT at home by ourselves. Good luck, sister! We'll save so much $$$$$$$.

YGeorgia ....... You are smart to wait and read all the blogs first. I did thermo ionic 4 times and it left my hair dead straight, flat and dry. Right after the BKT my hair was poker straight and flat, but after washing my hair got thicker, shiny, not pin straight with lots of bouncy body and healthy looking.

I just thought of a smart idea. I live in Vegas. If any of you ever come to Las Vegas, we can do each other's hair! The BKT I use is the only one I've found that allows you to wash your hair right away, no waiting for 4 days. This is good if you want to look great while in Vegas. I've heard some girls hide for 4 days until the first wash.

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Old 04-26-2009, 04:03 PM   #174
 
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I found the comb for 4.99 with my Sally's card!
I had Coppola done last year and the stylist did a good job but she didn't go over every strand 10 times. My hair is fine, so maybe she didn't think it needed it. It lasted a long time, no complaints there. I ordered a 4 oz bottle of Coppola treatment for $100 and based on using the LK and what the video said, I should get 2 treatments out of it. I used to straighten with One n only curl remover. I'm hoping the treatment will help me with the transition. It made my hair seem much healthier last year.
Good luck with your BKT and keep posting!
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2 oz. should be plenty. You're not supposed to saturate the hair & should use a fine comb to remove excess solution. That way you'll use a lot less solution.

Coppola should send you instructions with your order. Some instructions say 10 strokes or until you see the vapor dissipate. I'll bet your stylist is right to do less strokes with thin hair, because the vapor probably dissipates sooner with thin hair. That makes sense.

I'll get everything in the mail next week. I'm hoping the student chickens out. I'm sure I can do it myself now. But if she wants the experience, I'll let her do it. I'll keep posting now that I found some smart curly-headed bloggers. My hair used to be really curly years ago. Now my hair is more wavy than curly.

Thanks for the tip on Sally's cheaper tension comb. You saved me some $$$. Here's a link to Sally's comb:
http://www.sallybeauty.com/Straighte...efault,pd.html

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Old 04-27-2009, 09:24 AM   #176
 
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Can anyone compare using liquid keratin and using a texturizer? My daughter has 3c/3b combination hair and I want to loosen the hair a bit but not lose her curls. What would be best?
As long as she is not sensitive I would use the LK instead of the texturizer, b/c the LK is not as permanent...I think the LK would work better, if she is really 3b/3c...
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:42 PM   #177
 
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Unhappy giving it another try?

I used LK on my 3b hair last week and I saw no difference at all! I only used about 1/3rd of the treatment, as I have chin-length hair. I followed the directions to a T. The only problem may have been that my flat iron wasn't 400 degrees +. I had it on the highest setting, but I don't know how hot it actually is.
I am going to try to do it again, after confirming on the LK website that it is okay to use it again so soon after the initial treatment.
Has anyone else used the treatment again within the 30 days? If so, did it improve your results? I am at my wits end with my unruly hair. I don't want it straight, just more manageable and with looser curls.
Oh, and I agree that the stuff smells like dog shampoo! I guess it could be worse.
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Old 05-03-2009, 12:38 PM   #178
 
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Mereleven, LK is a terribly inferior product trying to copy Brazilian Keratin Treatment which you can buy for less $ online. I can give you some tips to make it work better. Wash your hair twice with a clarifying shampoo containing no sodium chloride before the treatment. Do not saturate your hair with the solution, and use a fine comb to remove the excess. Use a 400 degree flat iron and iron each section 10 times or until the vapor dissipates. I recommend having a friend help you. I wear two heat gloves on my left hand and cut off the ring and pinkie fingers for easier movement. When dying, perming or using chemicals always use a fan, mask and eye protector.
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I used LV 3 weeks in a row. It doesn't last long no matter what. I don't see any damage from it. I think it uses the 'cones in it to keep your hair straight, not really the keratin or anything else. I was hoping it might build up and last longer, but it didn't. I could see some difference, but not enough to keep doing it.
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:52 AM   #180
 
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Default I am still trying to fix the damage

Sadly for some of us the damage of LK has been permanent (at least until new growth come out)
Months later I am still trying to fight those orange /red tones that keep coming out. My curl shape not the same. The hair texture is not close to what it was before.


I would say, save your money and go for the REAL keratin treatments.

Finally after a couple of months I am growing my hair out and it is starting to look healthy again. But the tears the LK caused me have no price.
Definitely not for people with hair type like mine.


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