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Old 05-02-2007, 12:36 PM   #41
 
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Default Re: Wow..But any hair damage

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Hi, I know this question is being asked many times but again, can anyone who used this give me a review about the after effects. Did you have any hair damage, increase in frizziness, dry hair or any other sort of damage?
I used the normal formula and it did damage my hair. My hair is actually much much dryer and frizzier than it was before I tried it. It did loosen some of the curls (nothing too drastic) but the damage it did was much more than the cons.

It may be because I have dyed my hair several times in the past so my hair was already weak...I'm not sure. Just keep those things in mind if you try it.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:01 AM   #42
 
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Quick ? whats in One n Only frizz remover?

Yea Im guy and I dont like to use any chemicals on my hair but long story short.. my moms friend convienced me that ONO frizz remover wasnt a relaxer when I was suspious..she said it tames the frizz thats all..so either she lying or she really doesnt know...well all that ONO Frizz was good at is making my hair a mess..more dry,breaking,smells ect..

I been growing my hair for 3yrs from nothing with no chemicals and now I feel like cutting it all off..
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:48 AM   #43
 
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I tried this and had horrible results. It took out almost no curl and left my hair in awful shape. I think my hair just doesn't respond well to relaxers, I had the same experience with Easystraight and others, the only one I've liked is Phytospecific (which is super expensive, natch!). My biggest beef with them is the "thio" formula is the worst of both worlds -- it's too mild to take out curl and yet it's strong enough to cause damage! Argh!! At least with the Phyto I got pin-straight hair to go along with the dryness/damage!!

I guess it depends on your hair type. I have coarse, thick hair and these thios do nothing but dry, dry, dry, it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:26 PM   #44
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I tried this and had horrible results. It took out almost no curl and left my hair in awful shape. I think my hair just doesn't respond well to relaxers, I had the same experience with Easystraight and others, the only one I've liked is Phytospecific (which is super expensive, natch!). My biggest beef with them is the "thio" formula is the worst of both worlds -- it's too mild to take out curl and yet it's strong enough to cause damage! Argh!! At least with the Phyto I got pin-straight hair to go along with the dryness/damage!!

I guess it depends on your hair type. I have coarse, thick hair and these thios do nothing but dry, dry, dry, it.
can you use phytospecific if youve already used a thio relaxer?
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Old 06-29-2007, 01:29 PM   #45
 
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I don't think you can, now that I think of it. It's been awhile so I don't remember, but I think once you've used a thio you're sort of stuck with it, can't use another type. (Just another drawback to those rotten thios!!)

On some of the boards for black women's hair that I've lurked on, several posters have said they found ORS Olive Oil relaxer comparable to Phyto. Apparently it has almost the exact same ingredients! That surprised me, because it's less than half the price and available at most drugstores...!! I am actually attempted to try it!! Especially because I love all ORS products, they are fantastic.

(ORS=Organic Root Stimulator. Silly name, great products.)
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:07 PM   #46
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Yeah thio relaxers are not very good for straightening, yet for some reason they're the easiest to find (next to the nasty lye/nolye relaxers). I wish I could find one of the natural relaxers (phyto, curlaway, or the olive one). Although I dont really understand how they work since there doesnt seem to be any chemicals in them, but hey if i can get my hair straight organically then thats fine by me
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:25 PM   #47
 
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I have a question for people who have used this: Have you colored your hair before you used this? If so, was your hair really damaged/dry afterwards? My hair is pretty normal, I have some split ends a bit of dryness though not too much, but I have colored my hair and I'm wondering if it's really bad for colored hair... it sounds like it might be.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:03 AM   #48
 
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I just tried this a couple of weeks ago so I thought I'd let you all know how it went for me. It did exactly what I was hoping for, It made my hair wavy instead of curly. I have spirals in the back and waves in the front naturally, and after using this (I decided to do all of my hair) The front is very soft waves and kind of straight right at the front and the back is wavy instead of spirals. I really would recommend this, I love the way my hair looks now. I used the regular formula ( I have VERY thick hair and i only needed one box, (and still had some left over)). My hair also, if anything, feels softer and better than it did before I used it, So I don't notice any damage yet.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:02 PM   #49
 
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Default Phyto is not natural

Phtyo and the ORS Olive Oil relaxer are NOT natural. Phyto, unfortunately, runs really, really deceptive advertising about their Phytorelaxer.

They constantly refer to Phytorelaxer as "all natural" and insist that its only active ingredients are "soya and egg yolk" or some such crap. What they conveniently forget to mention is that Phytorelaxer's chief active ingredient is guanidine carbonate, which is essentially what is in most regular non-lye relaxers. ORS at least doesn't claim to be "all natural," just to augment its product with natural ingredients.

I will concede that, obviously, some of the ingredients in Phyto are superior because it DOES work better...but is that the "egg and soya" or is it the guanidine carbonate? Hmmmm....Bottom line, it is a strong chemical. I know one woman who totally fried her hair using Phtyo (yes, it was bleached hair and that was stupid, but would a "pure egg and soya" product do that? Doubtful.)

Curlaway, as far as I know, really is all natural and very gentle. Some posters here have reported really good results with it, too.
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:52 AM   #50
 
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ok i used this stuff last night, and so far so good! i did a strand test first and only left it on for 5 mins, which didn't do a whole lot - the curl seemed slightly looser, but you couldn't really tell unless you looked for it. so i did the whole head and left it on for 10 mins or so, and my 3a/3b hair is now more like a 2b, i think. which is great!

i haven't styled it with gel/scrunching yet, because i want to give it a day or two to rest after the treatment and don't want to mess with it. i let it airdry yesterday with some leave-in conditioner, and today just curled the ends with my huge ceramic curling iron, and it looks really good. very shiny, feels smooth, and only feels slightly dry at the ends (but it's a bit dry at the ends anyway and i'm scheduled for a trim in 2 weeks).

it was fairly easy to use, and though i usually need 2 boxes of dye etc to do my thick hair, i only needed one box and had some left over. i used the normal kind as well. my hair is dyed black, but this didn't seem to fade the color at all, as someone had warned it might.

so far so good! i'll update in a few days as i see how it is to style.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:26 AM   #51
 
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OK, I broke down and bought the ORS Olive Oil Relaxer this weekend. They make a lye and a no-lye; I used the former because I couldn't find the lye version, which I would have preferred.

In a nutshell: It's terrific. I am super pleased with the results, I actually like it better than Phyto. It left my hair softer and smoother than Phyto did, with less damage. Now, I did have the usual dryness/damage which any relaxer gives, but I did an Aphogee treatment a couple of days later, followed by a deep conditioning/moisturizing, and my hair is fine now. It's much, much, easier to style and I have zero frizz. I have to say I'm extremely pleased.

A final word, I don't do my whole head, the only parts I fully relax are my bangs, front hair and crown area. The rest, I only left the relaxer on for five minutes, to soften the curl and de-frizz. I got just the results I wanted, the straightened parts are very straight and the rest is soft and frizz-free.

Highly recommended. And at this point I think ORS may as well just hire me as a spokesperson because I have raved about every single one of their products.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:03 AM   #52
 
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I forgot to add, I added some regular olive oil (from my kitchen) and some Hot Six Oil to the relaxer mix. This may have helped give the soft silky feel I got. Hot Six is a blend of olive, safflower, and other oils and it does have silicone.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:17 AM   #53
 
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Three weeks ago, I used the One 'N Only Thermal Ionic Hair Straightening System (Tinted/Highlighted formula) to relax my bangs.
Im pleased with the results.

No extra damage and hair is very straight.

The smell is HORRIBLE and lasts for more than a week.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:43 PM   #54
 
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alright, well i read this whole forum and i've been wondering how about guys?

my hair is more then inches all over, and if i use this product i have it right next to me, will it straighten my hair with hair gel and hair glue in it?

this is my hair now you can see on my myspace

www.myspace.com/palatis

but when i spike it i just want my hair to go straight up instead of wavy back

this is sorta how my hair is now just longer:

http://a655.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...09ce7428d6.jpg

im just scared too use it too,

how do I actually do it, do i comb down to my face like the surfer style haircut or back like slicking it back xD

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I just used this relaxer last night, and so far, so good! I had somebody apply it for me... doing it myself would have been kind of hard, I think, but possible. Some people on here complained about the smell, which I was kind of worried about stinking up my whole house... but it was fine! Of course it smelled bad, it's chemicals, but it wasn't unbearable and the smell was gone within a couple hours. But you need to have a window open, door open, fan going, something for ventilation.

My hair was relaxed a small bit. It used to be 3B with some 3C in the back, and now I'd say it's 3A, maybe even 2C with some 3A/B in the back. It's in pretty good condition, too! My hair feels really soft, but the ends are pretty dried out. After rinsing the neutralizer out, I did a deep treatment, and I did a DT 2 days before I relaxed.

So I'm really happy with the results! It did everything I wanted, and without damaging my hair to a crisp. I definitly recommend this if you want to relax your curls just a bit.
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So I have read and re-read this thread for the last few months contemplating if I was brave enough to use the stuff. I actually bought some about a month ago and it's been sitting on a shelf ever since. I want to use it so bad! But I'm scared something bad may happen (despite the nearly perfect reviews.) I have 3a and 3b mixed hair, it's pretty manageable and it's hilighted but really healthy. I just want to loosen the curl some and get rid of some frizz. I want to be able to wear it down and to straighten it if I feel like it! Can someone PLEASE give me one last peace of mind so I can stop being a pansy and just do it? =) Thanks!

P.S. I know this thread is soooo old and I hope people still read it!
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I have too tried this years back. The first time using it was great but doing the regrowth was not as easy. I am referring to not getting on the previously relaxed parts yet it is very easy to do and you can very much end up with straight ends which I hated immensly! Not to mention the smell but then again it is what it is. So, I moved on to Frizz Remover which is alot milder and less harsh. It worked fine and made my hair very soft . It also softened by curls very slightly making it much more manageable but I am now looking for an alternative and want to try something new. Oh, Frizz Remover is discontinued you can find it still online and I wouldn't be surprised with Curl Remover gets discontinued too... not sure why though... since they removed Frizz Remover which in my opinion was way better.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #58
 
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Hello K33rstyn, yep, still reading this thread!

All I can tell you about is my own personal experience, and it's based on what I now know is the fact that thio-based relaxers destroy my hair. Yes, they are supposed to be milder but I get far less damage from traditional relaxers. I just used a lye-based relaxer a couple of weeks ago for the results you stated: I didn't go pin-straight--I wanted to but I was afraid my hair couldn't handle it--so I just left it on half the time and it gave me much softer curls and got rid of the frizz. I still have to flat-iron to get it straight. I did have a little dryness/damage but nothing like I got from one'n'only or other thios.

So it all depends on your hair. I find lye-based relaxers are better for my hair, I've never had serious damage from one the way I have from some non-lyes and ALL thios. Other people hate lye-based relaxers and love no-lyes. Nobody that I know "loves" a thio,and if you look at some of the straightening/relaxing disasters that pop up on this board, the majority (Rusk, one'n'only, EasyStraight) are thio-based. Just something to think about.
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that's really interesting about the lye based relaxer... maybe i have been going the wrong route the whole time? what relaxers have you used and what is your hair like? I have used pravana, bkt, phyto, and a thio that i forget the name of.... the bkt was amazing, a hair dream but i can't deal with the lingering chemicals.
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So I too have been VERY frustrated with my locks lately. I feel like I do everything for it, from driving 20 miles just to get AOHR... the only thing I haven't tried is curl keeper, however I feel it won't do what I want. I have 3b possibly 3c curls and now I'm considering this product. The only problem is I don't want to use it and become a slave to it. I don't want to have to keep reapplying. Does it wash out eventually? If I decided not to do my roots would I end up with two different heads of hair? Or would it gradually washing out of my hair as I let the rest grow out?
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