4a/b texlax support and advice

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I was talking to her about maintaining that big perfect poof and she told me that a stylist use to run a texturizer through it for a couple of minutes. I was amazed!
Originally Posted by vkb247
Amazing! You'd never guess.
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Hair type: 4a/b
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Okay, last thing: can you ladies please share the mixtures you use for texlaxing? Specifically, what brand of relaxer, and how much oil or conditioner do you use, if any? Thank you!!
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Hair type: 4a/b
13 months of growth
Here is my complete texlax procedure. I have very resistant hair and I have used:

-Motions Herbal in Super (a relaxer known for reverting and underprocessing
- Revlon Realistic in Regular (known for processing very slowly)
- ORS lye in Regular

I coat previosly relaxed hair with a thick conditioner/grease/vaseline to protect it,focusing on really protecting the ends.

I use about half a tub and mix that with about 1/3 cup of conditioner; usually V05(particularly Silky Experiences when I can find it because of the silk amino acids). I apply and smooth with my hands only for up to 12 minutes (incuding application time).

I always add a protein conditioner to my hair after I rinse the relaxer out but before I neutralize - anything with hydrloyzed protein or silk amino acids. I let that sit for up to 5 minutes and then proceed with neutralizing etc.

I can't remember how much of this I already said but I prefer a lye relaxer to no-lye because they process slower and aren't as drying. Lye isn't great for sensitive scalps but I don't have any problems with burning because I always mix my relaxer. If you use a no lye relaxer than I would advise using a chelating shampoo like ORS Aloe to remove mineral build up/prevent dryness.
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^^ Thank you, vkb! I ended up reading more about your process on Black Hair Media, but I really appreciate you posting the info here.
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Hair type: 4a/b
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Well, I went to my new stylist and got a texlax today, and I have to say I'm pretty happy with the results! I was expecting my hair to be a bit looser, but now I'm actually glad it's not. I got a texlax b/c my hair was knotting up, getting really tangled, and was difficult to shampoo, detangle, and generally manage. I think I got what I wanted, which is somewhat elongated curls that *hopefully* will be easier to comb through, and a little bit of "hang."

Here's a link to some before and after pics. Before is about a week ago. In both cases, my hair is about 50% dry and with Mixed Chicks leave-in raked through. (I do like this leave-in! My stylist recommended it. Pretty darn moisturizing.)

http://public.fotki.com/ericamarchand/hair-pics/
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Hair type: 4a/b
13 months of growth
That's great, Erica. I hope detangling is easier for you now.
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I am soooooo happy I henna'ed, my hair color is amazing. I guess my hair color wasn't as dark as thought it was, because my hair came out a brownish very red highlighted chocolate. It looks great and I am very pleased. I did a henna gloss:
henna
amla oil
honey
green tea
olive oil deep conditioner
peppermint essential oil(just a couple of drops to cut down on the heavy henna smell)

I deep conditioned under a hood dryer with mixed chicks deep conditioner and olive oil deep conditioner.

I didn't notice any loosening of my curls but my hair was definitely stronger and I could get my fingers through it. I plan on henna'ing two more times and then texlaxing. I would like to henna every three weeks.
Well, I went to my new stylist and got a texlax today, and I have to say I'm pretty happy with the results! I was expecting my hair to be a bit looser, but now I'm actually glad it's not. I got a texlax b/c my hair was knotting up, getting really tangled, and was difficult to shampoo, detangle, and generally manage. I think I got what I wanted, which is somewhat elongated curls that *hopefully* will be easier to comb through, and a little bit of "hang."
Originally Posted by ericajoy
Erica your has is beautiful before and after. I hope you are enjoying it and please keep us updated!

I am soooooo happy I henna'ed, my hair color is amazing. I guess my hair color wasn't as dark as thought it was, because my hair came out a brownish very red highlighted chocolate. It looks great and I am very pleased. I did a henna gloss
Originally Posted by tcoady27
I'm glad to hear that the henna is working for you and your mix sounds yummy! Please post pics of your hair!


BTW: I decided not to buy the comb I posted because it isn't seamless. I found a $15 handmade seamless comb at the BSS and I am about to throw all the other out!
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Erica your has is beautiful before and after. I hope you are enjoying it and please keep us updated!
Originally Posted by vkb247
Thanks! I am loving my hair. It's still very curly, but MUCH easier to detangle. Much. It takes like half the time it used to, literally. I was worried about dryness, but it's not any drier than before.

I've been busy so I haven't had time to try any styles like twistouts or braidouts, but I love my wash-n-go's. So overall, it's been about 3 weeks since the texlax, and I really love it.
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I have been busy with midterms so haven't checked in a while. Ericajoy your hair looks great. It looked great before and great now. So mixed Chicks leave-in is awesome? mmmmm I was waffling over whether to get some but it was expensive so I didn't get it. But I think my hair is similarly texturd to yours and if you like it I think I will by some.

Has anyone tried LongAid curl activator gel? The cheap old $5 stuff? I noticed a couple of naturals raving about it.
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I have been busy with midterms so haven't checked in a while. Ericajoy your hair looks great. It looked great before and great now. So mixed Chicks leave-in is awesome? mmmmm I was waffling over whether to get some but it was expensive so I didn't get it. But I think my hair is similarly texturd to yours and if you like it I think I will by some.
Originally Posted by kikisf
I do like it. Better than Karen's Body Beautiful, DevaCurl, and I can't remember what else I've tried. I'm halfway through my bottle and will probably continue to buy it.

Has anyone tried LongAid curl activator gel? The cheap old $5 stuff? I noticed a couple of naturals raving about it.
Originally Posted by kikisf
Yes, I've tried Long Aid. It's fine. I've read the rave reviews of it too, but it didn't do anything rave-worthy in my hair. Just a decent gel with pretty decent curl definition.

And thanks for the comments, kikisf! I love your hair. How is it these days?
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Hair type: 4a/b
13 months of growth
I was lurking around this thread and I use Long Aid gel, but I like Softee Activator gel much better. it might be worth a try.
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Well Ladies, I absolutely HAD it with my natural kinky-curly 4a hair. I felt as if I was harder on my hair than when I had relaxers --pulling enough out every time I detangled that I've thinned on top-- two-strand twisting and pin-curling every few nights. I realized since I was still manipulating the curl to get it looser and longer what difference did it make if I manipulated it manually like that or with a chemical. So two weeks ago I got a texturizer.

The first time the stylist put it on, it didn't seem to do ANYTHING. Since she'd cut it with conditioner and oils, she said it was safe to apply it again. So she did...and it still hasn't done what I wanted it to. Yes, detangling after I co-wash is MUCH easier but it's still just a poofy afro when it's dry and tonight, it was back to the 2-strand-pin-curl tango.

Is there a professional among you who can tell me how long I have to wait to get a real relaxer on all my hair (not just new growth) Or is there another way to relax my curl?

btw I co-wash, use Knot Today and KCCC (I tried Curly Pudding this morning to see if that would make a difference and couldn't wait to wash it out tonight -- yuck!)

Is there a professional among you who can tell me how long I have to wait to get a real relaxer on all my hair (not just new growth) Or is there another way to relax my curl?
Originally Posted by pericurl

I would wait 8-10 weeks. I've never had good results with texturizers. I've had some stylists slip me a texturizer on the sly and I could always tell the difference. They do exactly what you experienced in poofy, frizzy hair.

I prefer my stylist to use a relaxer (I like Affirm) and we leave it on for a shorter amount of time. I ONLY do the roots. Not my whole head because it will get straighter over time if I did that. The result is curls, waves, and ringlets depending on the texture. I know where my "easy to relax" and "hard to relax" spots are on my head. So we start with the hard to relax areas first and save the easier areas for last so it doesn't get too straight.
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Last edited by afrosheenqueen; 04-05-2010 at 04:32 PM.
So could I use a relaxer on all my now-texturized hair....or can I only put it on new growth?
I would only tex-lax the roots and gradually grow out the parts with the texturizer. That's what I'm doing and trimming it out.

I've always heard that a texturizer should be applied to virgin hair only so to err on the side of caution I wouldn't put a relaxer over it either.

Here some more info here. http://www.blackhairplanet.com/blog/...xed-texturize/
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HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

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So could I use a relaxer on all my now-texturized hair....or can I only put it on new growth?
Originally Posted by pericurl
Yes you can. Relaxers and texturizers are essentially the same thing but sometimes, just sometimes, they are different strengths. Make sure it is a lye or no-lye texturizer first though and you might want to use the same type of relaxer.

If I was you I would try to reapply the same product but change the process by
1) leaving out the oil (if I use oil and conditioner my hair always doesn't take with a relaxer)
2) Leave the texturizer on for a longer amount of time
3) Use a wide tooth comb to smooth the relaxer through if you weren't doing this before.

Relaxers also work better for me than texturizers but mostly that's because no-lye is very drying for me, is known to process faster, and causes mineral build up and most texturizers are no-lye.

It is a good idea to wait at least 6 weeks before processing again especially if you are dealing with some hair damage. Make sure you deep condition, protein treat, and really baby your hair before the next application to make sure it is in the best condition before reapplying.

Virgin texturizer/texlaxes often don't take. I had to process my hair 3 times before I got the look I wanted and I only left a few days in between but I am very brave, know my hair is resistant, and I have been doing my hair myself for more than a decade. When you retouch, make sure you still apply to the roots first and then pull the chemicals through the hair after letting the roots process for a few minutes first. You hair may not look processed but it still is and it is going to react differently than your virgin roots.
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Last edited by vkb247; 04-06-2010 at 08:41 PM.
Even though I REALLY researched the stylist I went to for the texturizer (I've had 3 appointments with her over the last year and a half --first for help as I was growing out a relaxer; then a bc 5 months later; now this texturizer over a year after the bc), she seems really impatient with me now because I'm not happy with the result of the texturizer. She won't even tell me what she used. I won't return to her and am thinking of returning to my long-time stylist, who only uses Mizani.

So I'm not sure what to do now. Would it besafe to use a different relaxer than the original texturizer? I think I should have the stylist test a section of hair with the relaxer first before doing the whole head. But what can I do in the meantime? (I got a shaping trim yesterday by a stylist who was very nice, but wanted to blow my hair straight before doing any cutting and it's AMAZING how long my hair actually is --just below shoulder-length---compared to how SHORT it is ---earlobe length--when curly).

I've been using KCCC and doing 2-strand twists. Would a styling cream and some other technique help with elongation in the meantime? Any recommendations on cream and/or technique?
she seems really impatient with me now because I'm not happy with the result of the texturizer. She won't even tell me what she used. I won't return to her and am thinking of returning to my long-time stylist, who only uses Mizani.
Originally Posted by pericurl
Do that! I can't stand stylists who act like that. It's your hair and its the biggest accessory women have. It needs to be right. Period.

So I'm not sure what to do now. Would it besafe to use a different relaxer than the original texturizer? I think I should have the stylist test a section of hair with the relaxer first before doing the whole head. But what can I do in the meantime?

I've been using KCCC and doing 2-strand twists. Would a styling cream and some other technique help with elongation in the meantime? Any recommendations on cream and/or technique?
Originally Posted by pericurl

I think it should be safe but your right....maybe do a patch test to see if its what you want.

In the meantime I say be patient because you don't want to make a rash decision. I have shrinkage too but I enjoy it. When I straightened last week people were surpised to see how much longer my hair really was. It's like my little secret.
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HG's: CJ Daily Fix, Bobeam Cheris Hibiscus shampoo bar, KC Spiral Spritz, Knot Today, CJ Rehab, KBB LL Hair Mask, Cassia, KCCC, oil blend of Avocado, Camellia, Jojoba, & Meadowfoam oils

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@afrosheenqueen: How long do you leave your relaxer in for? Do you comb it through with a wide-toothed comb?

I'm thinking of re-processing my hair b/c it's still getting pretty knotted on the ends and I still want to be able to wash and go w/o feeling like I have to twist or braid or straighten...
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