Is there any Balkan curlies? :)

Hello! or should I say Pozdrav!
Is there anyone from Balkan? I would really want to know that I am not alone here.
Most of Balkan curly girls straighten their hair or use curlying iron. I must say that girls from this part of Europe don't even have right products to use on their curly hair, they never heard of CG method etc. It is a pain in the a*s to even find a sulfate-free and silicon-free products.
I have seen so much beautiful girls with the poof on their heads crawing for an attention!
So if there is anyone from this area I would like to know how did you embraced your curls and waves!
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



Hey there Elyonari, pozdrav You are not the only one! And I hear you, it is so dificult to find good products, and to follow CG method. I didn't even know about CG until this summer, and it's been only six months but I have to say I'm so pleased with my hair and I hope it will get even better when a year passes. Also I'm dyeing my hair currently but in a month or so I will go back to my natural hair colour. So I'm mostly 3a with 2c and 3b. My current struggle is to find a good curl defining product. I'm currently using insight shampoo conditioner and deep treatment for damaged hair which I buy on an online hairdresser shop Insight , dm balea apricot and mango leave in and alverde gel (still testing it but i'm not really satisfied). And oils of course as a pre-poo. Odakle si/Where are you from?

Last edited by ninaZeraj1; 02-12-2015 at 07:28 AM.
Hey there Elyonari, pozdrav You are not the only one! And I hear you, it is so dificult to find good products, and to follow CG method. I didn't even know about CG until this summer, and it's been only six months but I have to say I'm so pleased with my hair and I hope it will get even better when a year passes. Also I'm dyeing my hair currently but in a month or so I will go back to my natural hair colour. So I'm mostly 3a with 2c and 3b. My current struggle is to find a good curl defining product. I'm currently using insight shampoo conditioner and deep treatment for damaged hair which I buy on an online hairdresser shop Insight , dm balea apricot and mango leave in and alverde gel (still testing it but i'm not really satisfied). And oils of course as a pre-poo. Odakle si/Where are you from?
Originally Posted by ninaZeraj1
Thank you for feedback! I thought I was alone here!
Using a CG method is more expensive then in USA and some other countries with this products. Even if the price is okay, the shipping is double price. I am pretty scared if I spend so much money on product and then trow it away. So I am sticking to products I have here. CG for a 6 months? Did you "infected" some other curlies to join us? I am in CG for 2 months I guess, and my hair got much better!
I am also 2c/3a with one 3b lock in front and some straight hair in the back...
I am also using Alverde styling gel and it holds nice for me. But it is a bit tricky to use it when it is dry and cold outside because of the glycerin in it (frizzzzz). So I make flex seed gel and use it during this weather and I must to put it so much on hair to get strong hold.
Balea apricot and mango conditioner smell So GOOD! Uh, the smell of a paradise! I am using it for co-wash once or twice a week, but again, it has glycerin and I have to wash it off good. And when you have hard water (I presume you also have it) you can't co-wash for long... Balea also had those coconut line, but it is not on a market anymore.
I love Alverde conditioner from my signature. I use it as deep conditioner, leave-in... well for everything. I recommend it.
I am also growing out my hair and use this hot oil technique with coconut oil for a month now (and also for a pre-poo). I always had problems with hair growing and now I feel everything is growing faster!
I am from Hrvatska! A ti?
Balkan rock!
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



Well I'm a little lazy when it comes to DIY so I buy everything. I'm also using brands I can find in a drugstore, but these Insight products are really good, they are italian and are really cheep, 1litar of conditioner is only 5 euros, and you can never use so much product... It's tricky to order something like MopTop or DevaCurl, just as you said, I don't want to spend so much money and then be disappointed with the product.. :/ But Alverde is nice, they only use organic natural ingredients so they are ok.
I tried to convince some of my friends that are curlies to join us in CG method and one of them is going to give it a try, but the other one just straightened her hair with a keratin treatment, so she is lost... a lot of my friends have naturally straight hair... :/
No one understands us!
Are you trying to spread the CG method?
So my problem is that I still dye my hair, and the progres is slow because of that. And my hair was really heat and chemical damaged. Also I have a problem with hairdressers, because every time I go for a trim I come back with hair that is more dry and damaged than it was before my trim. And I can't fnd anyone that knows how to cut curly hair properly. Do you have more luck with hairdressers than me?
Ja sam iz Srbije. (Writing in English so anyone can understand )

Last edited by ninaZeraj1; 02-13-2015 at 09:24 AM.
Well I'm a little lazy when it comes to DIY so I buy everything. I'm also using brands I can find in a drugstore, but these Insight products are really good, they are italian and are really cheep, 1litar of conditioner is only 5 euros, and you can never use so much product... It's tricky to order something like MopTop or DevaCurl, just as you said, I don't want to spend so much money and then be disappointed with the product.. :/ But Alverde is nice, they only use organic natural ingredients so they are ok.
I tried to convince some of my friends that are curlies to join us in CG method and one of them is going to give it a try, but the other one just straightened her hair with a keratin treatment, so she is lost... a lot of my friends have naturally straight hair... :/
No one understands us!
Are you trying to spread the CG method?
So my problem is that I still dye my hair, and the progres is slow because of that. And my hair was really heat and chemical damaged. Also I have a problem with hairdressers, because every time I go for a trim I come back with hair that is more dry and damaged than it was before my trim. And I can't fnd anyone that knows how to cut curly hair properly. Do you have more luck with hairdressers than me?
Ja sam iz Srbije. (Writing in English so anyone can understand )
Originally Posted by ninaZeraj1
I am sorry for a late answer but I was very busy these days...
Are that Insight available on some site? I was looking in their original site and I couldn't find the page they are selling it. :/ Yes, Alverde is great and cheap, but it is a shame that they use SLS from derived coconut and mask it as Sodium coco sulfate.
YES! Exactly! A lot of people have straight hair around us... I must say, my close and further family have straight to slightly wavy hair, and a lot of my friends also. And when they ask me why is my hair so curly, I just say I use another shampoo. If I start to talk about all my experimenting they would laugh, because they don't understand.
It is very rear to find anyone with curly hair because they straighten it. One girl I know had beautiful and healthy 3a/b curls and then she straighten it with a hair straightener while it was WET! Her hair is a mess now... :/
Yes, one collage colleague is trying it but she is lazy to learn more, and other colleague (guy) asked me for a few advices about products. So I share my secretes only to wavy/curly gurls.
I also dyed my hair, and I know what you are dealing with... Did you consider a big chop and let your natural hair grow? I dyed my shoulder length hair and my hair was really dry and ughh yucky. And it was growing soooo slow. Then I made a big chop! And my hair started to grow faster. But as it is wavy/curly, so it seems slow. If you still want to dye, I herd about some henna thing. I didn't read about it so I don't really know...
Well, I was going to a hairdresser with straightened hair so she will be shocked if she see me with curls. And I don't think she knows how to cut it. We have a few hairdressers who know how to cut curly hair, but they aren't cheap. But I still don't need a cut so I have time to save money for that.
Oh, I was reading a blog from one Serbian curly and she have great advices but she is not so into CG.
We have to wright on English because the world needs to know our Balkaniese curly product crisis! And I think it is not very polite...
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



I get them on this website ALEXANDAR Cosmetics - Oprema i kozmetika za frizerske i kozmeti , it's for cosmetic salons, but anyone can order products from there, they also have a list of distributers, you can send an email to them to ask, or you can look in some cosmetic salon stores over there. I don't mind sulfate from coconut, because I do feel that my hair needs a little bit more cleansing than just conditioner.
I think I have bored my friends with my curl talk.. But I was actually the girl who straightened her hair all the time. I was kind of bullied in elementary school because of my hair and in 6th grade I started blowdrying it every time I washed my hair. And then when I started high school I got smarter, I learned to love my curls, only I didn't know how to take care of them properly, I still used foams full of alcohol and SLS shampoos, and my hair was sooo dry, the only thing that made it a little better was that I used beer as my final rinse. How is your expirience, do people around you love your hair, or do they say: "You look better with straight hair" ?
In Belgrade girls like their curls, I see so much beautiful curly heads, especialy on my faculty, but I'm not sure that they know about CG.
Actually I big chopped, my hair was boob lenght and then I cut it to neck lenght, but continued to dye, so that's the problem. My current plan is to dye to my natural colour next month and cut it more, and we will see how it goes..
I think that in Belgrade aren't any curly hair hairdressers, or at least I haven't heard of them. My current hairdresser does my hair since I was 12 so by now she knows how to deal with my hair, I think that the problem is the way they wash it and towel it, because I bring my own products so that is the same. Also when she cuts my hair she runs through it a lot, so that may also be a problem.
kovrdzava kosa If this is the blog you were reading she is good because she reviews products that are available here, so at least you can know what to buy.
How do you clump your curls? Because I could really use some advice.
What is this FSG that is in your product list?
hey, another curly (3a ) girl here. I hadn't heard about CG method before i read your conversation. Then i do little research so I'm interested when I can expect a positive difference. I have really long hair, it goes all the way down, right above my waist. Could both of you make a list of sulfate and silicone free conditioner that are available in thie area? Ask me anything you want to know?
Yeeeeey, so happy to see another Balkan curly here.
Welcome
Well anything from Alverde is silicone free, and also a lot of Balea products (if they have on their label ohne silikone, for example conditioner with mango and aloe vera), I think that Elseve Total Repair doesn't have silicones either. But you can also check for yourself, when you go to the store just see the ingredients and anything that ends with -xone, -cone or -one is silicone... You can find all of these in any drugstore. You can also look for some products in healthy food stores, but they are usually more expensive. :/
Well I can't tell you exactly when will your hair get healthier and better, because it depends on the state your hair is right now. And it will take time for your hair and your scalp to adjust on CG method. Just be patient and you will fall in love with your curls.
Do you wear your hair curly? Or do you straighten it?
Thank you so much, I will definitely try this conditioners out. I wear my hair curly. In fact, I'm proud to say I have a beautiful curly hair. My hair is healthy, long and shiny but I have a big issue with frizz. My frizzy upper hair goes literally 4 cm up. And I flat ironing that area but I'm afraid that I'll damage my hair. So I will try CG method on summer holidays due to my school obligations. I am using Ultra Doux repairing conditioner by Garnier at the moment. The yellow one, with avocado oil and shea butter. It makes my hair soft but it causes frizz like the every other conditioner I have used. Another big problem for my hair that is extremely dry. How often and when do you brush your hair? Because I found out that the more I brush my hair the less defining my hair is. So if I skip brushing my hair for a while, I'll have prettier curls. I think that the main reason why my hair is healthy is that I avoiding hair dryer and flat iron (except for frizzy part). I will send an image of my hair but i'm not sure how to do it because It is only possible by using an URL.
The more you flat iron the frizzy part the more it will frizz, because flat iron makes it even dryer than it was before, and when hair is dry it craves for moisture and that's why it gets frizzy. I wouldn't recomend Garnier, well at least not what they sell here, because they have sulfates and silicones (they actually have a line for curly hair that's ok, but it's not available here). Good way to fight frizz is to use a leave in conditioner, I use Balea and Elyonary also said it's good for here, so if you can't strat CG right now, at least try this, it will help fight frizz.

I don't brush my hair. You should throw out your brush, because it damages your hair and creates frizz, and it also breaks your curl pattern. You should buy a wide tooth comb, they are really cheap, and you should only comb your hair in the shower when you have your conditioner on, you can also finger detangle, instead of using a comb.
Here are some good youtube videos on how to finger detangle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRARyEQTlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKF-kgopDAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDj...565544#t=1m25s

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Where are you from?
@ninaZeraj1
Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. It is hard when kids starts to bully you... I was also bullied but not because of hair. But I am happy and glad that you started to love your curls as teen. Usually teens starts to straighten it more.
My hair started to curl when I was around 13-14 and I started to straighten it because I didn't know how to manage it... I figured out that air drying and no combing made my hair better and curlier. During one biochemistry class in high school teacher was talking about disulfide bonds. And then she asked who have curly hair and everyone pointed their fingers at me. She was looking only at me and started to talk about disulfide bonds in curly hair and everyone was like wooow that's awesome. That also encouraged me to care. In society it is always modern to have straight hair, but if you have curly hair people usually ask you if it is natural and they usually like it. I sometimes straighten it just because I want to, not because of others. It is like once in 3-4 months. But people usually say to me to get back to curly.
I wish you luck with cutting and getting your hair natural. Be brave and don't let your hairdresser to use thinning scissors! Last time I chopped hair my hairdresser used them a lot and it caused frizz that I am still fighting it. It is better to use regular cutting scissors to thin the ends. It needs more work but no frizz.
Yes, she is good. I saw you have some products we don't have so product reviews are not so helpful, but she have good tips and advises.
I scrunch my hair and then clip it and air dry. Clipping makes my hair a lot curlier. Here are some clipping techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFLCD12RKbw
You can find similar clips in Muller.
FSG is a flaxseed gel (gel od lanenih sjemenki). You can find flaxseed everywhere and it is cheap. Here is a link how to make it and tips for better hold and how to preserve it longer. How to Make Flaxseed Hair Gel: 11 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow

Welcome Ema! I am so happy you joined us!
For frizz I would recommend to use gel. You can make it like FSG which does't have anything drying in it like drying alcohols or silicons. It will reduce frizz and add some more shine. And yes, using leave in conditioner also reduces frizz, but now when it is winter and air is dry I wouldn't recommend using products with glycerin because it will get moisture out of hair in air.
It is also good to have your hair saturated with conditioner much longer than usual, like 5-10 minutes and rinse it with cold water. Cold water makes cuticles to close and keep the moisture in.
About putting picture, there are "Additional options" under the text box. Under "Attach files" you can add picture.
Where are you from?
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



I'm so happy that I'm not alone! Finding products for the CG method here is sooo much harder than for anyone outside of the Balkans. If you want to order something, be prepared to pay a LOT for shipping and tax!
Hi Breathofcolor!
Where are you from? Which products do you use?
Yes, you will usually pay more for shipping than a product. When I see on Youtube how Shea Moisture, Jessiecurl, Deva or some other products are great, it makes me want to cry.
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



This one with finger detangle thing intrigued me. I love watch curly Penny's videos. I'm a Slovak girl. But I've lived here in Croatia since I was 3 years old. I tried to upload the picture but it said: ''You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times.''
So I'll try later Andddd I bought new shampoo ''Babylove'' It is DM's house mark. I read only good stuff about it. So tomorrow I'll tell you my first impression. It has no silicone,sulate, artificial colorings. It is dermatologically tested. It is also written that this shampoo is ideal for everyday washing for adult. Also keep dyed hair. Just type in ''Babylove šampon'' into a search bar and you'll see few reviews on this shampoo. I've also read the comments and almost all was positive. And Garnier conditioner that I had mentioned before has no sulfate and silicone.
This one with finger detangle thing intrigued me. I love watch curly Penny's videos. I'm a Slovak girl. But I've lived here in Croatia since I was 3 years old. I tried to upload the picture but it said: ''You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times.''
So I'll try later Andddd I bought new shampoo ''Babylove'' It is DM's house mark. I read only good stuff about it. So tomorrow I'll tell you my first impression. It has no silicone,sulate, artificial colorings. It is dermatologically tested. It is also written that this shampoo is ideal for everyday washing for adult. Also keep dyed hair. Just type in ''Babylove šampon'' into a search bar and you'll see few reviews on this shampoo. I've also read the comments and almost all was positive. And Garnier conditioner that I had mentioned before has no sulfate and silicone.
Originally Posted by Ema
Babylove shampoo is really good shampoo and I think it is only sulfate-free cheap shampoo to use. I am also recommending it! Where did you buy that Garnier conditioner? I couldn't find it anywhere. I am also from Croatia, Zagreb!
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask




Last edited by Elyonari; 03-04-2015 at 03:59 PM.
What do you think about macadamia natural oil deep repair masque?
I think I bought it in Plodine heheh

Last edited by Ema; 03-04-2015 at 04:11 PM.
I didn't try it but if it doesn't have any silicones in it or drying alcohols, it should be fine.
2C in a back, 3A in front
Low/normal porosity
Medium/low density
Good elasticity
Short length

Trying:
Babylove shampoo (no sulfates)
Alverde Nutri-Care conditioner - Almond oil and Argan oil (no silicones)
Alverde Syling gel...some long words on German... (no silicones)
FSG (low dew points)
Coconut oil as hair mask



hey there again!

I am from Zagreb, Croatia as well! I just started the CO Wash method last week and for that I am using Balea's Seidenglanz Conditioner (saw hundreds of recommendations for it on various European forums so I went for it). I absolutely love this.

I have been blow drying my hair straight for the past 8 years or so, the last time I saw my hair curly was a few summers ago when I, for a change, DIDN'T put it up in a bun as soon as I got out of the water!

The first time I washed my hair it was rather wavy with barely any curls, but with each wash they are coming back more and more, after three washes I am getting my spirals back already.

I am still waiting for the Kinky Curly Curling Custard and the Knot Today leave-in conditioner. Can't believe I paid 13 euros for the shipping!
I start using Babylove shampoo, my hair is soft and all but I noticed that my hair gets oily sooner than usually. My hair seems to be healtier than ever but I'm afraid that this shampoo isn't for me. So how often do you wash your hair with babylove shampoo? Is it just that type of shampoo that is made for everyday washing or what?
I start using Babylove shampoo, my hair is soft and all but I noticed that my hair gets oily sooner than usually. My hair seems to be healtier than ever but I'm afraid that this shampoo isn't for me. So how often do you wash your hair with babylove shampoo? Is it just that type of shampoo that is made for everyday washing or what?
Originally Posted by Ema
I think your hair might simply be adjusting to the new product you're using. Maybe next time you could either rinse it out more. My hair definitely needed time to get adjusted to the sulfate free treatment.

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