CG friendly styling products in UK?!

I use conditioner from ASDA, which literally costs 50-odd p for 500ml and gives me decent "slip".
Original Source conditioners are also silicone free and don't cost the world.
The Naked Bodycare is available in larger boots branches and costs around 3.50 per bottle - I quite like their sulphate free shampoos.
I largely get my stuff from boots or my regular supermarkets and am so far faring well with the low key approach.
Curling it in Scotland the modCG way since September 2008.
Long suffering wavy - 2a/b.

Low-poo:
  • Naked Rescue or Care
Conditioners:
  • Original Source (any variety)
  • Naked Care and Naked Rescue DT
  • ASDA Essential Care Mango&Passionfruit or Coconut&Tiare
Stylers:
  • Boots Essentials Curl Creme
  • Boots Essentials Strong Hold Gel (purple)
Thank you very much for your help...

On your advice, I took a little trip into town this morning and got everything I needed. I did get stage fright in Boots because I couldn't find any VO5 Fruity conditioner and then I couldn't find the Boots Basic Conditioner I was after from the giantic list of products I was looking for, so I improvised. Paid a visit to Holland and Barrett and Superdrug and I'm stocked up as below:

Australia Organics Shampoo (for dry, coloured or chemically treated hair) to wash my hair once a week.

For my CO I'll be trying Superdrugs Tea Tree and Peppermint Conditioner.

I bought Boots Essentials Conditioner as a slip. ( I read on another website that this was okay to use - it was 58p for 500ml)

And the Pink Boots and Aloe Vera Gel as stylers.

Simples...

Has anyone any advice, suggestions or feedback on the products before I try everything tomorrow?
Hiya,
Thats pretty much exactly the products I got to start me off. Only without the shampoo. It really helped me start off with a simple routine with simple products, that I did every day for the first week, before I started trying out different things.

Not sure if this has been mentioned here before (I kinda skim read this post ), but I think you get the VO5 conditioners that everyone talks about, from poundland.
Good Luck!!
nz cg
2a/fine/medium porous/NO elasticity/medium
co-wash: ???
rinse-out: ????
HG combo: Boots curl cream, BB's fsg

http://public.fotki.com/kazza186/
ohhh, just remembered this thread too:
UK CGers - start our own CG friendly product list!

Its a pretty good list of uk CG products.
nz cg
2a/fine/medium porous/NO elasticity/medium
co-wash: ???
rinse-out: ????
HG combo: Boots curl cream, BB's fsg

http://public.fotki.com/kazza186/
i think i'm going to start CG this summer...

i'm currently using the john freida frizz-ease line and tony and guy beach spray which i'm guessing is really bad?

could anyone tell me a few things that i need to start CG that i could buy in boots please?

thank you, i'm totally confused by the whole CG thing hahaha
i think i'm going to start CG this summer...

i'm currently using the john freida frizz-ease line and tony and guy beach spray which i'm guessing is really bad?

could anyone tell me a few things that i need to start CG that i could buy in boots please?

thank you, i'm totally confused by the whole CG thing hahaha
Originally Posted by melissa92
Before i started the CG method, i also used John Frieda frizz ease line, especially the shampoo and condish...now i only use its curl reviver mousse and the gel sometimes (both have got a water soluble cone) I love the mousse! I sometimes use Organix Coconut milk shampoo, which is sulfate-free, i like it, though i try to cowash nonly most of the times.
As for the TG spray, i have it too and it doesn't seem to have any silicone in it ( maybe i'm wrong) but i decided to stop using it because it gives me a weird crunchiness sometimes.The Naked range at boots seems to be good, i have been using the nourishing vitamin boost deep treatment and it's nice
The Original source conditioners are cone-fee and not pricey.
I'm not a proper UK curly girl, i am from Latinamerica and I am not in the UK at the moment, but i spend a lot of time there since my boyfriend is English so i go there frequently to visit him, and i get the chance to find new products :P

Good luck with your CG experience!

Mod CG, 3a/3bish Mix of medium textured big curls, spirals and ringlets Low Poo: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque sulfate-free
Condish Naked Hydrating Condish
DT: Naked Glossing deep treatment
Leave-in: Same as condish
Styling: Paul Mitchell Sculpting foam, Boots pink, Tigi Catwalk Curlesque Defining serum, MOP Glisten High Shine pomade, Paul Mitchell sculpting gel,Original Sprout Curl tamer creme
thank you so much thats really helpful


To help spot it!

You can't miss it, the whole range is this unimpressive black and white - going for sophistication I guess!!!
Originally Posted by hahgiwoofa

Sorry I've not been around for a while!!!

I remember someone asking about the curl conditioner in this range but can't find the post now! There was a dilemma because boots did all the range except the curl condish, I contacted salon directly and asked why not at boots, they wouldn't tell me, but said they haven't discontinued it and would be happy to supply it direct. If you want it send them an email from their website. I've ordered from it twice now and it always arrive quickly.

hope this helps!
UK based curly bonce! (Lancs)
silicone, or not to silicone - that is the question!!!

Uses:
CG - australian organics (Holland and Barratt) poo & condish, Louise Galvin Deep condish treatment, boots pink curl creme
non CG - Umberto Gianni pink range, L'Oreal Studio Line Curl Power Controlling Creme
Still searching for the winning combination!!!
i bought a marieclaire mag yesterday cos i found it had a freebie and it was james brown intensive hair mask and just couldn't resist. I didn't quite remember if it was cone free but when i checked it out it seems cone free, has anyone ever tried it? is it rally CG friendly?

Mod CG, 3a/3bish Mix of medium textured big curls, spirals and ringlets Low Poo: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque sulfate-free
Condish Naked Hydrating Condish
DT: Naked Glossing deep treatment
Leave-in: Same as condish
Styling: Paul Mitchell Sculpting foam, Boots pink, Tigi Catwalk Curlesque Defining serum, MOP Glisten High Shine pomade, Paul Mitchell sculpting gel,Original Sprout Curl tamer creme
I picked up the same magazine. The product looks CG and I'm looking forward to giving it a try. I quite liked the serum from the same range.

Kerry xx
UK curly - mostly 2c
  • Going back to basics!
  • Happily using a mixture of sulphates, cones and CG products.
  • Permanently undecided whether to cut or grow!
Currently loving:
Lush I Love Juicy shampoo
Charles Worthington frizz smoothing conditioner

Superdrug coconut & almond intensive conditioner
Montagne Jeunesse avocado & cherry bark mask
Umberto Giannini curl gel
Boots 'pink' curl creme
good, i am also looking forward to the same!

Mod CG, 3a/3bish Mix of medium textured big curls, spirals and ringlets Low Poo: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque sulfate-free
Condish Naked Hydrating Condish
DT: Naked Glossing deep treatment
Leave-in: Same as condish
Styling: Paul Mitchell Sculpting foam, Boots pink, Tigi Catwalk Curlesque Defining serum, MOP Glisten High Shine pomade, Paul Mitchell sculpting gel,Original Sprout Curl tamer creme
Hi everyone

Just started my CG routine and find that all 4 of the condishes I've bought for cowashing contain protein! I have been scouring the boards and googling like mad and I can't seem to find a protein free UK conditioner for cowashing. I have the AOHR for conditioning and DT and I have found stylers that are suitable (CJCCCC, KCCC, boots purple gel) but I'm after a thinnish cowash - preferably as natural as poss but - hey, if it doesn't have SLS/cones or protein I will try it!

The ones that i've brought that have protein are:

OS Coconut and Almond
OS Pear and Avocado
Dr Organics Aloe Vera
Waitrose White Cranberry & Almond (peg cone)

Any advice will be most gratefully received -
UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
Currently in my rotation:
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/
I'm thinking that some people had been using the Boots essentials conditioner for dry and damaged hair (it's pink). I believe it's mostly chemical, and therefore has no protein in it. I also think (though I'm unsure) that the Burt's Bees Colour Keeper conditioner is protein-free (but you may want to double check).

Just curious - I know you've started CG recently - are you positive you're protein sensitive? It can be really hard to figure out, and especially if you have a mix of porosities, you probably don't want to cut protein out completely. I'd originally thought I was one of the rare very porous protein sensitive people, but turns out I just didn't use enough moisture to balance out my protein treatments.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I'm thinking that some people had been using the Boots essentials conditioner for dry and damaged hair (it's pink). I believe it's mostly chemical, and therefore has no protein in it. I also think (though I'm unsure) that the Burt's Bees Colour Keeper conditioner is protein-free (but you may want to double check).

Just curious - I know you've started CG recently - are you positive you're protein sensitive? It can be really hard to figure out, and especially if you have a mix of porosities, you probably don't want to cut protein out completely. I'd originally thought I was one of the rare very porous protein sensitive people, but turns out I just didn't use enough moisture to balance out my protein treatments.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Hi oddityofwings

Thanks for the Boots and Burts Bees recommendations - I will check them out.

No, am not sure I am protein sensitive - 'tis just a best guess based on what I've read on these boards about coarsness. I had to start somewhere with products and thought I'd start with low to no protein. I have read that some curlies used products containing protein and it took ages for their hair to recover! I thought I'd just try and use a methodical approach so that I can limit variables and thus (hopefully) work out what my hair responds to. Any help or advice will always be gratefully received

My pre CG products did contain protein however - Redken All Soft, Sebastian Penetraitt, Kerastase Bain Satin 3.....

It's all so confusing! Plus, of course, we live in the UK so can't get half the stuff we want! LOL - Really wanted to try AO White Chamellia condish but they don't supply the UK - doh!
UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
Currently in my rotation:
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/
Yeah - it's a pity that you can get AO in the UK, but not that conditioner! (it sounds perfect for me as well - must remember to get some when I'm home in the US next...).

As far as courseness/protein sensitivity goes, you'd have to ask RCC to be sure (she's sort of the resident expert in protein sensitivity, IMO), but I think that while coarseness means you'll need less protein than say someone with fine hair like me, you are not necessarily going to be sensitive to protein. And you'll need some protein anyway - which is why previous products with protein weren't exactly (or, at least, obviously) causing problems.

When starting out, I think it's probably best to try to get your into better condition to start with (more moisture, some protein, no sulfate and no cones), and then once it's happier, start playing around with ingredients - at this point it's too hard to figure it out and you can never know for sure based on hair characteristics (though it's a place to start). If you are sensitive to moisture or protein (or particular ingredients) this will become apparent after using them for a while - and very few things will exactly ruin your hair. Waiting for your hair to come back to decent condition is also good because if you assume that reactions early on are reactions of your hair when in good condition, you might actually be completely down the wrong track! (ex: your hair might require loads and loads of moisture to start with. This doesn't mean your hair is intrinsically dry - just that it is currently dry. Once it's back in condition, you can figure out how much moisture you actually need before you overcondition. But there's no way to know early on.) That said, it is probably a good idea to have an arsenal of products without x ingredient in your arsenal (or at least on a list) so you know what to go try if you do turn out to have a sensitivity.

which reminds me - I checked Burt's Bees conditioner ingredients when in town this afternoon and the only one with protein is the Soy and Pomegranate. The other two are protein-free.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...

As far as courseness/protein sensitivity goes, you'd have to ask RCC to be sure (she's sort of the resident expert in protein sensitivity, IMO), but I think that while coarseness means you'll need less protein than say someone with fine hair like me, you are not necessarily going to be sensitive to protein. And you'll need some protein anyway - which is why previous products with protein weren't exactly (or, at least, obviously) causing problems.

which reminds me - I checked Burt's Bees conditioner ingredients when in town this afternoon and the only one with protein is the Soy and Pomegranate. The other two are protein-free.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Yeah, I did PM RCC but I haven't had a reply - I hope I didn't break protocol with PMing her without asking on the boards first.

Agree totally with you on the protein issue - I just don't know for sure at this point so will see how it goes.

Thanks so much for the info on Burt's Bees - that's great to know - I will check those out as soon as.

I went into the Whole Foods in Kensington today and found a brand 'Faith in Nature'. It appears that a lot of their condish is protein free - checked the ingredients, which are surprisingly few, and spoke to a product guy there for additional advice. Bought the joboba one - here are the ingredients:

Aqua, cetyl stearyl alcohol, brassica oleifera, panthenol (pro vit B5), buxus chinensis (jojoba), ascophyllum nodosum (seaweed), citrus aurantium (orange), cananga odorata (ylang ylang), melaleuca alternifolia, cetrimonium chloride, limonene, linalool, benzyl benzoate, benzyl salicylate

Do they look OK do you think?
UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
Currently in my rotation:
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/
I've tried Faith In Nature's Aloe Vera conditioner - it's great as a detangler, but I find it doesn't moisturise much (that might just be that conditioner itself, though). I also think it smells like Mr. Clean Floor Cleaner when in use, but that's me. Anyway, all of their conditioners are CG. Actually - they're all doubly cool, because they've got rapeseed oil in them - which is the 'active' ingredient in the best detanglers.

Don't think RCC will mind if you PM her without asking on the boards - but I've never tried and I don't know her particularly well. I just know she knows about protein, because her hair is very picky and very sensitive to protein.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I've tried Faith In Nature's Aloe Vera conditioner - it's great as a detangler, but I find it doesn't moisturise much (that might just be that conditioner itself, though). I also think it smells like Mr. Clean Floor Cleaner when in use, but that's me. Anyway, all of their conditioners are CG. Actually - they're all doubly cool, because they've got rapeseed oil in them - which is the 'active' ingredient in the best detanglers.

Don't think RCC will mind if you PM her without asking on the boards - but I've never tried and I don't know her particularly well. I just know she knows about protein, because her hair is very picky and very sensitive to protein.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Ooh - floor cleaner - didn't even open it to smell it - lol - oh well, I'm wanting it as a cowash so there will be plently of other stuff going over it to hopefully mask the smell.

Will be doing my first cowash today! Have bought a new denman (already had one and packed it away as I hadn't used it for years and the although it looked brand new, the rubber had rotted!). Will try and pluck up the courage to used the denman to distribute stylers evenly - even though my logical self is saying 'NOOOOOOO you will rip out the curl' LOL. Will add the pics to my flickr after - whatever it looks like - hahaha.

Thanks for all your help, oddityofwings
UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
Currently in my rotation:
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/
Good luck!
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Good luck!
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Well, did the cowash yesterday with the Faith in Nature jojoba - felt great, nice and slippery but you were so right about the smell - bloody floor cleaner - LOL! And I did use the denman and less KCCC. Using less KCCC made the drying time much quicker but less curl definition today so will probably use a bit more again next time. Hair feels much softer already tho' - yey! Will carry on with this combination for a while and observe changes - am taking the scientific approach - lol
UK - 3a/b med/coarse - mix normal/ high porosity.
Currently in my rotation:
Cleanser/Cowash: CJDF,
Tresemme Naturals, DGJ Hairjuice clarifying, Urtekram Lavender
Conditioners/DT's: CJH&BDF, CJCR, DBPSC, AOWC, Y2C
Protein: AOGPB, Joico Reconstruct Condish (regular not PT)
Leave Ins/Curl Creams: CJCCCC, CJ Smoothing, KeraCare/JCAC
Gel: FSG, BRHG, Giovanni LA Natural Styling Gel, L'Oreal Studio Mineral Control Invisi'Gel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41240927@N03/

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