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We live in Florida and my husband and I found we are BOTH vitamin D deficient.... doc put my husband on 50000 units a week for a month and now he is on 50000 every 2 weeks. I was put on 1000 units a day because my levels weren't that low, but I've still noticed health improvements. My ferratin was a little low too and finally seemed to clear up my mouth sores and sinus infections with the ferratin and vit D supplements. Oh I also do B12 shots once a month.
I'll check about the vit d when I go back, or ask the derm if I see her first as she'll have copies of the results too. I wish I could retain information better!
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I'll check about the vit d when I go back, or ask the derm if I see her first as she'll have copies of the results too. I wish I could retain information better!
Originally Posted by Starmie
Don't beat yourself up - as even if you just had a full blood count there would be around 14 results for you to remember so you wouldn't be able to retain the figures, let alone if you had nutrient levels checked as well.
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We live in Florida and my husband and I found we are BOTH vitamin D deficient.... doc put my husband on 50000 units a week for a month and now he is on 50000 every 2 weeks. I was put on 1000 units a day because my levels weren't that low, but I've still noticed health improvements. My ferratin was a little low too and finally seemed to clear up my mouth sores and sinus infections with the ferratin and vit D supplements. Oh I also do B12 shots once a month.
Originally Posted by Ashleynicol
Are you not eating enough oily fish?
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We live in Florida and my husband and I found we are BOTH vitamin D deficient.... doc put my husband on 50000 units a week for a month and now he is on 50000 every 2 weeks. I was put on 1000 units a day because my levels weren't that low, but I've still noticed health improvements. My ferratin was a little low too and finally seemed to clear up my mouth sores and sinus infections with the ferratin and vit D supplements. Oh I also do B12 shots once a month.
Originally Posted by Ashleynicol
Are you not eating enough oily fish?
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
We don't eat much fish. I can only tolerate fish bought fresh and cooked that day. I love shellfish and I like salmon and rainbow trout and that's about it. My husband likes fish more than me and kids (4 amd 6) will only eeat fish sticks. My husband and I stared taking cod liver oil gel caps to supplement. We both work 12 hour shifts I'm a nurse and he is a police officer. Its hard to keep up with cooking fresh foods.
We live in Florida and my husband and I found we are BOTH vitamin D deficient.... doc put my husband on 50000 units a week for a month and now he is on 50000 every 2 weeks. I was put on 1000 units a day because my levels weren't that low, but I've still noticed health improvements. My ferratin was a little low too and finally seemed to clear up my mouth sores and sinus infections with the ferratin and vit D supplements. Oh I also do B12 shots once a month.
Originally Posted by Ashleynicol
Are you not eating enough oily fish?
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
You have to eat something like 5 generous portions a day to get the same amount of Vitamin D you get from 15 minutes out in the sun without sun screen.

Over 90% of Vitamin D your body makes comes from sunlight.
And she tested your thyroid? Like crimsonshedemon mentioned? You might also want to try and see an endocrinologist if the dermatologist doesn't work out.
I'm pretty sure she just tested the TSH which I know isn't necessarily a good indicator. When I go back to have my iron levels rechecked I'm going to ask about T3 and T4 as well as vitamin D. Didn't want to push my luck 'demanding' this, that and the other at the outset!
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There's so much information out there and it becomes confusing for me. Good luck, Starmie, and if you find out that nothing nutritional helps, try Rogaine. It works for me. (I'm vit. D. deficient also - I take supplements).
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You're not wrong there, with the amount of info out there. I start to read about one thing then get distracted by something else, then something else until my brain feels quite addled!

I contemplated Rogaine but when I read up on it there was something that made me think it wouldn't be suitable for me, can't remember now what it was.
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Be careful with upping vitamins without your GP's advise. Too much of a good thing can cause problems as well, as I found out last winter. I was tired a lot so I thought after all the dark winterdays I could use some extra vitamine D and multi-vitamins. Then hairloss started and feeling nausea all the time.. I specifically asked for a test on vitamins, since a friend of mine had the same things because if extreme deficiency of vit. D. Well, turned out I had too much vitamin D and B6 which caused all the troubles. I know it's rare, but high levels of Vitamin D can also cause hair loss, which is why it is important to have the right balance of vitamin D.*
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I'm pretty sure she just tested the TSH which I know isn't necessarily a good indicator. When I go back to have my iron levels rechecked I'm going to ask about T3 and T4 as well as vitamin D. Didn't want to push my luck 'demanding' this, that and the other at the outset!
Originally Posted by Starmie
You need the free t3, free t4 and reverse t3 tested. Otherwise these wont be tested. Also ask for a tbc magnesium test and make sure it's not the serum tested.
You can read about proper thyroid testing at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Also with vit d, you dont want the storage levels tested but actually how you body is using this hormone (vit d is not a vitamin but a hormone). Again most drs just test your store and this doesnt tell you what's really happening. http://drcarolyndean.com/2013/03/the-vitamin-d-debate/
Took me a long time to become my own advocate and remember the dr works for me and not the other way around. There are ways to insist on certain tests without being rude and if the dr refuses move on and find another.
There's so much information out there and it becomes confusing for me. Good luck, Starmie, and if you find out that nothing nutritional helps, try Rogaine. It works for me. (I'm vit. D. deficient also - I take supplements).
Originally Posted by curlypearl
Did you that if you are low in vit d, you are low in magnesium? Your dr will have have told you that your mag is fine but this is because he doesnt check inside the cells only the blood serum.
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-release...123905004.html

http://www.functionalmedicineunivers...c/882print.cfm


Magnesium is far more important than given credit for.
We live in Florida and my husband and I found we are BOTH vitamin D deficient.... doc put my husband on 50000 units a week for a month and now he is on 50000 every 2 weeks. I was put on 1000 units a day because my levels weren't that low, but I've still noticed health improvements. My ferratin was a little low too and finally seemed to clear up my mouth sores and sinus infections with the ferratin and vit D supplements. Oh I also do B12 shots once a month.
Originally Posted by Ashleynicol
Are you not eating enough oily fish?
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
We don't eat much fish. I can only tolerate fish bought fresh and cooked that day. I love shellfish and I like salmon and rainbow trout and that's about it. My husband likes fish more than me and kids (4 amd 6) will only eeat fish sticks. My husband and I stared taking cod liver oil gel caps to supplement. We both work 12 hour shifts I'm a nurse and he is a police officer. Its hard to keep up with cooking fresh foods.
Originally Posted by Ashleynicol
Excellent way to get vitamin d! Much better than the vit d2 or d3 supplements which can cause more problems. I posted some info about magnesium and vit d. Mag has been life changing for me and many others and sadly not popular in allopathic medicine.
Excellent way to get vitamin d! Much better than the vit d2 or d3 supplements which can cause more problems. I posted some info about magnesium and vit d. Mag has been life changing for me and many others and sadly not popular in allopathic medicine.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
Supplements even of cod liver oil can cause problems if you don't get your levels regularly checked.

No medical practitioner would advise you to take single vitamins and minerals at doses larger than the recommended daily amount without stating very clearly that you need to be tested regularly.

Though in the country I live in some family doctors will go against the advice of specialists thinking they are saving money, and because you are a woman and/or a young person you are making up your health problems.

Anyway as I stated before it's impossible for some of us regardless of how much oily fish we eat to get sufficient Vitamin D due to a combination where we live, age and skin colour.
Excellent way to get vitamin d! Much better than the vit d2 or d3 supplements which can cause more problems. I posted some info about magnesium and vit d. Mag has been life changing for me and many others and sadly not popular in allopathic medicine.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
Supplements even of cod liver oil can cause problems if you don't get your levels regularly checked.

No medical practitioner would advise you to take single vitamins and minerals at doses larger than the recommended daily amount without stating very clearly that you need to be tested regularly.

Though in the country I live in some family doctors will go against the advice of specialists thinking they are saving money, and because you are a woman and/or a young person you are making up your health problems.

Anyway as I stated before it's impossible for some of us regardless of how much oily fish we eat to get sufficient Vitamin D due to a combination where we live, age and skin colour.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
There's a reason a person who eats a ton of oily fish doesnt absorb the vitamin d. An unhealthy gut and low mag levels are just 2 factors.
Most drs do not test vitamin/mineral levels properly so that's a real problem. Medical school is not about getting healthy. Like with mag, they test the blood serum and say your levels are healthy and they are actually in the toilet.

Recommended daily allowance is a joke. Developed during WW2 as the minimum levels needed to stave off illnesses like rickets, scurvy, etc. hardly an example of what the body thrives on.
I'm pretty sure she just tested the TSH which I know isn't necessarily a good indicator. When I go back to have my iron levels rechecked I'm going to ask about T3 and T4 as well as vitamin D. Didn't want to push my luck 'demanding' this, that and the other at the outset!
Originally Posted by Starmie
It's your health. You have to be demanding. You have to be an advocate for your own health, because most of these doctors do the least possible thing just to get your money and call it a career. I can't count how many tests I've had that the doctors have failed me on. I once brought my own test in, and basically said "I have this, can I get medicine for it?" The response was "Take our test to be sure, I've never heard of that one." I replied, "There's no point, I already took a test, I want my medicine." And I got it.

How are your B12 levels? This was an issue for me (which the doctor never told me my levels were low, thank God I had a copy of my bloodwork), and I was losing a large amount of hair. Whenever I slack on my supplements or come in contact with foods I'm intolerant to I go back to losing some hair.
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There's a reason a person who eats a ton of oily fish doesnt absorb the vitamin d. An unhealthy gut and low mag levels are just 2 factors.
Most drs do not test vitamin/mineral levels properly so that's a real problem. Medical school is not about getting healthy. Like with mag, they test the blood serum and say your levels are healthy and they are actually in the toilet.

Recommended daily allowance is a joke. Developed during WW2 as the minimum levels needed to stave off illnesses like rickets, scurvy, etc. hardly an example of what the body thrives on.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
If a person eats lots of oily fish they have prolonged bleeding times. This maybe fine if it's a simple cut and the person is otherwise healthy but not otherwise. The Inuit have serious issues with prolonged bleeding times and poor blood clotting which is why it's recommended to eat oily fish only a few times a week.

The amount in available in other foods is very low. Even fortified foods have very low amounts in them.

You are actually expected to get most of your Vitamin D from the sun through your skin as it's the most efficient and effective way of getting it. Your body cannot overdose with Vitamin D obtained from the sun as there are simple mechanisms that stop you absorbing more.

There are very easy to understand reasons why people can't get enough Vitamin D from the sun and it's normally a combination of factors such as where someone lives in terms of pollution and location, skin colour, sun block use, increased age and occupation.

So advocating eating lots of oily fish is in fact harmful. Telling someone to get out into the sun is more effective but unfortunately due to modern indoor lifestyles, illness or age that doesn't work for a lot of people.

The reason why the medical establishment is scared of telling people to take higher doses of Vitamin D is because it's fat soluble. People who are likely to take a high dose won't be in a deficient category. You only have to look through this forum to see overdosing themselves on water soluble vitamin supplements thinking taking more is better but at least the excess ends up in the toilet with normally no adverse side-effects. However overdosing on a fat soluble vitamin isn't so easy for the body to deal with and can cause death.
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sixelamy - I think my B12 was ok. Sadly I'm just not comfortable with being pushy (even though I know it's not actually pushy when you have health concerns) I do need to work on being more assertive.
I'm finally going to see the derm on Wednesday (two months to get an appointment, I thought it was never coming) so I'll see what she thinks about the tests I had and whether she thinks anything has been missed which could be useful.
I feel a bit weird about being excited to see a doctor!
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Ok good on the B12! I'm not pushy at all either, I'm actually quite shy. I guess it's a learned thing along the way. Good luck with the derm! They should be a bit more thorough. I hope you can find the solutions you need
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