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There's a reason a person who eats a ton of oily fish doesnt absorb the vitamin d. An unhealthy gut and low mag levels are just 2 factors.
Most drs do not test vitamin/mineral levels properly so that's a real problem. Medical school is not about getting healthy. Like with mag, they test the blood serum and say your levels are healthy and they are actually in the toilet.

Recommended daily allowance is a joke. Developed during WW2 as the minimum levels needed to stave off illnesses like rickets, scurvy, etc. hardly an example of what the body thrives on.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
If a person eats lots of oily fish they have prolonged bleeding times. This maybe fine if it's a simple cut and the person is otherwise healthy but not otherwise. The Inuit have serious issues with prolonged bleeding times and poor blood clotting which is why it's recommended to eat oily fish only a few times a week.

The amount in available in other foods is very low. Even fortified foods have very low amounts in them.

You are actually expected to get most of your Vitamin D from the sun through your skin as it's the most efficient and effective way of getting it. Your body cannot overdose with Vitamin D obtained from the sun as there are simple mechanisms that stop you absorbing more.

There are very easy to understand reasons why people can't get enough Vitamin D from the sun and it's normally a combination of factors such as where someone lives in terms of pollution and location, skin colour, sun block use, increased age and occupation.

So advocating eating lots of oily fish is in fact harmful. Telling someone to get out into the sun is more effective but unfortunately due to modern indoor lifestyles, illness or age that doesn't work for a lot of people.

The reason why the medical establishment is scared of telling people to take higher doses of Vitamin D is because it's fat soluble. People who are likely to take a high dose won't be in a deficient category. You only have to look through this forum to see overdosing themselves on water soluble vitamin supplements thinking taking more is better but at least the excess ends up in the toilet with normally no adverse side-effects. However overdosing on a fat soluble vitamin isn't so easy for the body to deal with and can cause death.
Originally Posted by Blueblood
Who advocated eating an excess of oily fish? If you read the discussion, I simply said there's a reason the vit d from that oily fish isnt getting absorbed.

Like I've said a thousand times, an excess or mega dosing isnt good unless you are working with someone who knows what he/she is doing. We can have problems with excessive fat and even water soluble vitamins. Not all water soluble vitamins are excreted harmlessly.
Many practitioners recommend excessive doses of Vit D presuming it's very safe because so many are deficient. It's ridiculous! They dont know how to determine why the patient is deficient in the first place so let's prescribe enormous doses instead because we must get those levels increased. I for one cant be in the sun at all and was very deficient. Instead of taking 50k vit d2 1--2 times a week like my md (and many) prescribe, I opted to learn more and brought my levels up.
I'm pretty sure she just tested the TSH which I know isn't necessarily a good indicator. When I go back to have my iron levels rechecked I'm going to ask about T3 and T4 as well as vitamin D. Didn't want to push my luck 'demanding' this, that and the other at the outset!
Originally Posted by Starmie
It needs to be free T3, free T4 and reverse T3. Many drs do not order these specific tests. You can order them yourself and pay cash. Also consider your adrenals. If I put this info before, forgive me. on my phone and it's difficult to scroll. You can learn more about your thyroid and adrenals at www.stopthethyroidmadness.com. Also links to how to order tests. Please check it out. Also look at your diet and stress levels. Gluten dairy soy corn can all be damaging to the gut if you are sensitive. Need to do an elimination diet to really know. Testing for celiac is not enough in regards to gluten.

Please remember that the doctor works for you. If one doesnt help, find another. I dont believe in pushing a dr as the dr usually becomes defensive tho some drs will order tests they arent familiar with.
It is your health and body. No one will care more than you! You are the one feeling like crap everyday not them and unless they have been there, they cant understand (tho they can be understanding)

Hope you feel better soon! I'm 37 and have had lupus for 18 years...suffered for many of those because I thought my MDs and their prescription pads were the answer. Dont suffer needlessly. Take care
You did post before about that website, I had a good read and checked where I could get bloods done. I think this was before I went to the dr and I was pleasantly surprised when she did as much as she did so I didn't follow up on anything. Luckily I don't feel unwell at all so no worries there, I was really surprised that my ferritin levels were so low as I'd have thought I'd be permanently exhausted but I'm not. I'll just keep chipping away, getting her to check things one at a time.
I'll keep the adrenal thing in mind too, I remember reading something about that that made me wonder if it was an issue, can't remember what it was now, hopeless memory!
3b in South Australia.
You did post before about that website, I had a good read and checked where I could get bloods done. I think this was before I went to the dr and I was pleasantly surprised when she did as much as she did so I didn't follow up on anything. Luckily I don't feel unwell at all so no worries there, I was really surprised that my ferritin levels were so low as I'd have thought I'd be permanently exhausted but I'm not. I'll just keep chipping away, getting her to check things one at a time.
I'll keep the adrenal thing in mind too, I remember reading something about that that made me wonder if it was an issue, can't remember what it was now, hopeless memory!
Originally Posted by Starmie
That's good that you dont feel unwell. As for adrenals, we all need to support our adrenals so they dont burn out. Diet, relaxation and rest are most important. I'm recovering from af and it's a long uphill road.
It's good to find thins early before they develop into other problems. Like with low ferritin, your thyroid needs iron and cant be optimal without it and while you feel fine, your body may have adjusted so you could potentially feel a lot better. Wouldnt that be wonderful? Can never feel too good. Take care
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Well, had my visit to the derm yesterday and I have to say I'm a little disappointed. She never mentioned any further blood tests and although nice enough, I didn't find her particularly approachable (ie I didn't feel comfortable asking). She suggested Minoxidil and Spironalactone and I thought I may as well give them a try, as what's the point of going to see these people if I'm not going to take any notice of what they have to say? I even went and got some baseline bloods done so she could keep an eye on any potential potassium issues. I bought the meds ($110, yikes).
Then I went home and did some more reading. Wish I'd done it before I spent the money. I really don't think I'm comfortable using either of these products. The Minoxidil says not to use it if you don't have hereditary hair loss and I don't think mine is hereditary, well I certainly can't think of anyone in my family that has it and I told the derm that. Then again, does it really make a difference whether it's herditary or not? The spironalactone is less worrisome for me, as I do have high-ish blood pressure so it probably wouldn't do me much harm. I just don't like taking meds and the thought of it (and the Minoxidil) being a life-long thing is something I can't quite get my head around.
For now I think I'll keep on with my iron supplements (and hope my ferritin levels go up and make a difference) and have a long hard look at my diet.
3b in South Australia.

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