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Old 09-19-2013, 06:13 PM   #1
 
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So when I was younger, I had waist length 3b/3a curly hair. I'm a senior now and need your help. In the eighth grade I had my hair chemically straightened and it did absolutley nothing but cause my ends to break off to a few inches below my shoulders. My hair did not grow after this but continue to break off. When I was a sophmore for Christmas I had the Keritan treatment and that did nothing but cause my hair to lighten and break. After going to a different lady, who actually cares, she told me the only way for it to grow was to cut off all the dead ends. It is not a little above shoulder length. She told me I have fine thin hair and that many curly hair products are geared towards thick course hair. I have been taking biotin, and trying natural hair products. However, I have been recently using curly q's coconut dream conditioner and since then, there's been more hair in the comb and on my clothes and coming out. Is this just shedding? Is there anything else I can do to promote growth? Can the conditioner cause hair loss (a review on amazon clamied this)? I need your help because it feels so thin on top with a widening part. This could totally be my imagination, but I need your help. Thanks!
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:18 AM   #2
 
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See your family doctor or a dermatologist if you suspect your hair is shedding from the roots more than previously or is getting thinner. Anything can cause shedding if you are sensitive to that product or ingredient. If you examine the hairs do they all have a white root or are they actually breakage?

For growth eat a nutrient dense, varied and balanced wholefood diet, lose the processed food. Regular scalp massage and daily physical activity to increase circulation to the scalp. Aim to consistently meet or exceed your government's recommendations for healthy living. Biotin megadosing may do more harm than good, people can get side effects like acne or kidney failure.
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Fine and thin hair tends to do well with products containing hydrolysed protein, this strengthens the hair, boosts body and wave. It does not do well with very high heat as all the keratin straightening processes require, nor with other chemical services. You might be best learning to work with and love your natural curl pattern.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:29 AM   #3
 
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You should not just take biotin you need to overhaul you whole diet i.e. cut out the junk food, sugar eat properly i.e. more veg, more fruit, complex carbohydrates rather than simple carbohydrates. Then if you still feel you need to take a vitamin supplement take a multivitamin.

Vitamins and minerals work with one another. Simply overdosing biotin which a B vitamin means you will just pee it out if you are lucky, or bring up kidney issues if you are unlucky.

Over the counter conditioners and shampoos don't tend to cause people's hair to shred as hair is dead and manufacturers don't want to be sued. If there is an issue with the product then a reaction would show up on your scalp skin, face, ears or neck.

You hair may be simply breaking where the straight ends meet your natural curly hair. To stop this you need to cut off your straight ends. Unfortunately if this meeting place is only about one inch then you are just going to have to put up with the breakage until you can bear to cut your hair off. Either way you need to treat your hair as gently as possible.

If your hair isn't shredding at this point - which you can see if you examine your shred hair and the short hairs on your head - and you can see white bits at the end of the shred hairs then you need to go to your doctor and have some blood tests conducted as you may have a nutrient deficiency or worse.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:50 AM   #4
 
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Hi everyone above is right about going to the doctor, getting checked out. After I went through chemo I had very fine thinning hair before I joined here, I also found my thyroid was low. I have found that Curlisto Protein Boost spray gives my hair more body and there is a Ouidad Boost which is the same as the first one.
I have using Nioxin for dry treated thinning hair as well. A daily vitamin couldn't hurt you.
I have also been taking a hair nail vitamin. I hope you can get some help.
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:07 PM   #5
 
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Hi everyone above is right about going to the doctor, getting checked out. After I went through chemo I had very fine thinning hair before I joined here, I also found my thyroid was low. I have found that Curlisto Protein Boost spray gives my hair more body and there is a Ouidad Boost which is the same as the first one.
I have using Nioxin for dry treated thinning hair as well. A daily vitamin couldn't hurt you.
I have also been taking a hair nail vitamin. I hope you can get some help.
Is your thyroid issue being treated?
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:13 AM   #6
 
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Well I am a fairly active person so I can't really increase the activity as for 2-3 hours a day I'm really active. Also a thing I forgot to mention was that my ends get matted now, and when I try to untangle them gently I succede only to have clumps of hair come out. The hair I'm losing has the white tip at the end, so it's not breakage. I tried a detangler but that doesn't seem to help the problekm.
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Well I am a fairly active person so I can't really increase the activity as for 2-3 hours a day I'm really active. Also a thing I forgot to mention was that my ends get matted now, and when I try to untangle them gently I succede only to have clumps of hair come out. The hair I'm losing has the white tip at the end, so it's not breakage. I tried a detangler but that doesn't seem to help the problekm.
If your hair is getting tangled you need to wear your hair in a protective style such as a braid or bun. However don't pull them back so tight you lose hairs around your sides.

Also have a look at your ends - if they are split trim them of. Lots of curlies do their own search and destroy to get rid of individual hair strands with split ends

Finally when you detangle start from the ends of your hair not the roots and load your damp hair with a leave in.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:46 PM   #8
 
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I went to the doctor and my blood test was fine. I've stopped using the conditioner that I suspected was part of the problem. Doc said its usual to shed more this time of yea and it might be hormones or age (eighteen). I wear my hair in a ponytail every day but a super loose one . Any advice
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #9
 
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I went to the doctor and my blood test was fine. I've stopped using the conditioner that I suspected was part of the problem. Doc said its usual to shed more this time of yea and it might be hormones or age (eighteen). I wear my hair in a ponytail every day but a super loose one . Any advice
Was your doctor a dermatologist? Did you get a print out of the blood test results?

Both the answer to these questions are really important.

As doctors who isn't a dermatologist would say that your blood levels of ferritin are normal when in fact they are too low for healthy hair - that's if s/he bothered to test your ferritin level most doctors do not. Plus s/he would be unlikely to test your vitamin D level.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:38 PM   #10
 
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No my doctor is not a dermitologist. I did not get the papers back they just said it was fine. She put me on vitamin e supplement.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:16 AM   #11
 
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No my doctor is not a dermitologist. I did not get the papers back they just said it was fine. She put me on vitamin e supplement.
Go back to the doctor's office and ask the receptionist for a print out of the blood test results - it will be free if you ask now. The receptionist has no business asking you why you want them but if she does just say for your own records. Then once you get the print out check the levels of all values are high enough for healthy hair growth. (If you don't know where to look then ask for help here.)

If the doctor hasn't tested your ferritin and vitamin D levels then you need to go back to the doctor or preferably a different one in the same practice, and ask them to test them. The levels of these may be in the lab range but if they aren't high enough they are linked to hair loss. If you ignore the hair loss especially as you are active you can find yourself finding it hard in a few months recovering from sessions and injury. You may also start being in pain and feeling faint.

Telling you to take a Vitamin E supplement is a placebo to get you to go away as getting enough vitamin E in your diet isn't hard as it's in cereals, nuts, seeds, olive oil and corn oil. So you don't need to take supplement to get a sufficient amount.

Sorry if I sound harsh but I've had a family member who has an iron deficiency told to go away by a doctor who refused to give her an iron blood test who ended up needing a blood transfusion, and I was told to go away by a doctor and then was found by another medical professional to have a severe Vitamin D deficiency.

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