HELP!!! Transitioning While BROKE

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Hey everyone!!!

I am new to Naturally Curly, and I started transitioning suddenly. I believe my last relaxer was in May. So I now have about 2.5 - 3 inches of new growth.

Now, I am not sure if it is 3C or 4A. It is very small and hard to comb through unless VERY VERY conditioned. I mean sit that deep conditioner on my head for an hour. Otherwise it seems to do very little.

My savior is Knot Today in between, I can't go without it now. I gave up cones, and have been co-washing with Fructis (cone free).

Now here in lies my problem. I AM BROKE as heck and can't afford a bunch of stuff to transition with.

It's getting harder to manage, and my twistouts turn out horribly. (Totally new to this.) The relaxed ends never fully twist, or they wont stay as it dries, and I can't part it.

My hair is in desparate need of moisture and care, but I can't afford any special products.

What can I do? Anyone else have problems like these?
When I transitioned, I was pretty broke too.

I mean, I still am but whatevs.

I used drugstore products like VO5 and tresemme. Nothing I bought was more than ten dollars. I used VO5 as a cowash tresemme naturals as a rinse out, and diluted Giovanni as a leave in. I pulled my hair into a creative ponytail/bun and went about my business. All of those products you can get at wal-mart. They aren't fancy but they get the job done.

ETA: I bought the Shea moisture curl and style milk to kind of put on my edges in the mornings because that area got really dry. It's really moisturizing. You can get it at Walgreens.

Hope that helps a bit.
On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Last relaxer: 8.4.10
BC: 9.6.11

when will your favs?


Last edited by annabananalise; 09-21-2011 at 03:11 PM.
I had the same problem with my twist outs while transitioning. I found two ways to combat this problem. After you twist the hair:

Option 1: wrap the ends (or even the entire length of the twist) around perm rods or flexirods.

Option 2: bantu knot the twist and secure with a hair pin.

Either way, you will end up with a uniform curl pattern and your ends won't look scraggly. First version will give you curls w/ hang, second option will be more fro-like. Also, bantu knots take longer to dry--fair warning.

As for cheap products: I cowash with Suave Naturals (can find it on sale for like $1.25 and I add a little honey and EVOO for added moisture and slip), I like some SheaMoisture products (each product is about $10 but it lasts me much longer than KCC..also Walgreen's has frequent Buy One, Get One Half Off sales on their line). You can also find oils to seal in moisture for a pretty low price point. I use EVOO + castor oil in the winter; in the summer, I like lighter oils like jojoba or grapeseed oil. My go-to gel is the blue Ecostyler and I think it's like $4 for a huge tub of it.

I wish I could suggest a Knot Today alternative, but to be honest it is the BEST moisturizer/detangler I have found. The only way I can avoid using it is to be fairly thorough about detangling during the cowashing process.

HTH.





When I transitioned, I was pretty broke too.

I mean, I still am but whatevs.

I used drugstore products like VO5 and tresemme. Nothing I bought was more than ten dollars. I used VO5 as a cowash tresemme naturals as a rinse out, and diluted Giovanni as a leave in. I pulled my hair into a creative ponytail/bun and went about my business. All of those products you can get at wal-mart. They aren't fancy but they get the job done.

ETA: I bought the Shea moisture curl and style milk to kind of put on my edges in the mornings because that area got really dry. It's really moisturizing. You can get it at Walgreens.

Hope that helps a bit.
On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
Hey Anna!

Thanks for the product suggestions! I did use Tresseme for a while, but my hair seems to grow resistant to some products and that brand is one of them LOLZ huh.

HOWEVER I had not even thought of VO5! I remember my mother using it on my curly head when i was really little. I gotta try that again!!

My edges get terribly dry too. Especially in the back just behind the ears, and the widows peak like area. OOh boy do they feel like the desert sometimes. Do you wet your hair a little before the Shea Milk (like you are sealing) or just slather it on directly to the dry areas?

Many thanks!
TheFab
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If you have a Sally's Beauty Supply in your area, they sell hair products, tools, and accessories at very low prices.
Products I'm currently :
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Sweet Ambrosia (Vanilla Latte scent)
  • Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Style Milk
  • Certified Organic Coconut Oil
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Heavenly Jojoba Oil
Staple Deep Conditioners: Giovanni Direct Leave-in and Karen's Body Beautiful Luscious Locks Hair Mask

Recent newbie to the Curly Girl Method
6 months post relaxer. I will be 7 months post September 17 !!
Hi Naturalnewb

lol like that name!
Anywaysss thanks for the tips on the twists, I will attempt to try that this weekend. Are these flexirods something I can get at a Target or Walmart? Or is it something from a beauty supply?

I have heard of sealing for dryness, but I haven't seemed to perfected the art yet. Either that or my Jojoba oil is fake! I found it at an arab store in brooklyn for cheap, but it seems to have two oils that separate and i think it has very little jojoba in it.

I haven't a clue where to get Ecostyler or Castor oil....I have heard of them. Any ideas? I'm willing to go to any Borough of NYC Or buy online
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Hi Naturalnewb

lol like that name!
Anywaysss thanks for the tips on the twists, I will attempt to try that this weekend. Are these flexirods something I can get at a Target or Walmart? Or is it something from a beauty supply?

I have heard of sealing for dryness, but I haven't seemed to perfected the art yet. Either that or my Jojoba oil is fake! I found it at an arab store in brooklyn for cheap, but it seems to have two oils that separate and i think it has very little jojoba in it.

I haven't a clue where to get Ecostyler or Castor oil....I have heard of them. Any ideas? I'm willing to go to any Borough of NYC Or buy online
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
In NY I've seen it in Rite Aid, Target, Walgreens, CVS, Wal-Mart, Sally's, Beauty Supply Stores, and other drug stores. I hope this helps. If you want pure Castor Oil try a health food store or a West Indian market
Products I'm currently :
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Sweet Ambrosia (Vanilla Latte scent)
  • Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Style Milk
  • Certified Organic Coconut Oil
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Heavenly Jojoba Oil
Staple Deep Conditioners: Giovanni Direct Leave-in and Karen's Body Beautiful Luscious Locks Hair Mask

Recent newbie to the Curly Girl Method
6 months post relaxer. I will be 7 months post September 17 !!
When I transitioned, I was pretty broke too.

I mean, I still am but whatevs.

I used drugstore products like VO5 and tresemme. Nothing I bought was more than ten dollars. I used VO5 as a cowash tresemme naturals as a rinse out, and diluted Giovanni as a leave in. I pulled my hair into a creative ponytail/bun and went about my business. All of those products you can get at wal-mart. They aren't fancy but they get the job done.

ETA: I bought the Shea moisture curl and style milk to kind of put on my edges in the mornings because that area got really dry. It's really moisturizing. You can get it at Walgreens.

Hope that helps a bit.
On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
Hey Anna!

Thanks for the product suggestions! I did use Tresseme for a while, but my hair seems to grow resistant to some products and that brand is one of them LOLZ huh.

HOWEVER I had not even thought of VO5! I remember my mother using it on my curly head when i was really little. I gotta try that again!!

My edges get terribly dry too. Especially in the back just behind the ears, and the widows peak like area. OOh boy do they feel like the desert sometimes. Do you wet your hair a little before the Shea Milk (like you are sealing) or just slather it on directly to the dry areas?

Many thanks!
TheFab
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
Yep I wet my hair a little and used it to seal. It's pretty effective for my trouble areas like around the temples. And a little goes a long way. ALSO now I use Giovanni smooth as silk conditioner and either spray it with water or a little oil as a leave in. I ran out of the milk haha

If tresemme doesn't work (and it works MUCH better now that I'm entirely natural) try yes to carrots conditioner. It's at target and Walgreens for like eight dollars. There's less in the bottle (than tresemme) but it's wonderful as a rinse out. Or a leave in, too, if you want something heavier.

VO5 Moisture milks in passion fruit smoothie is soooo great. And it's always less than a dollar.

And as someone said above, if you want to, wrap your twist outs around perm rods. And if the twists won't stay on your relaxed ends twist at the beginning, braid a bit in the middle (three strands) and twist at the end. So it won't unravel.

I'll try and think of more to help haha. Sorry for my terrible punctuation. I was going fast.

On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Last relaxer: 8.4.10
BC: 9.6.11

when will your favs?

I'm goin thru the same prob right now and what's working for me is flat twist outs it seems to blend the two textures VERY WELL

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Vo5 is cheap and it works really good

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Hi Naturalnewb

lol like that name!
Anywaysss thanks for the tips on the twists, I will attempt to try that this weekend. Are these flexirods something I can get at a Target or Walmart? Or is it something from a beauty supply?

I have heard of sealing for dryness, but I haven't seemed to perfected the art yet. Either that or my Jojoba oil is fake! I found it at an arab store in brooklyn for cheap, but it seems to have two oils that separate and i think it has very little jojoba in it.

I haven't a clue where to get Ecostyler or Castor oil....I have heard of them. Any ideas? I'm willing to go to any Borough of NYC Or buy online
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
In NY I've seen it in Rite Aid, Target, Walgreens, CVS, Wal-Mart, Sally's, Beauty Supply Stores, and other drug stores. I hope this helps. If you want pure Castor Oil try a health food store or a West Indian market
Originally Posted by hippiedoll
Thanks for the location suggestions Hippiedoll, I guess you are in NY too? I don't know where the West Indian stores are. Are there any in Brooklyn?
When I transitioned, I was pretty broke too.

I mean, I still am but whatevs.

I used drugstore products like VO5 and tresemme. Nothing I bought was more than ten dollars. I used VO5 as a cowash tresemme naturals as a rinse out, and diluted Giovanni as a leave in. I pulled my hair into a creative ponytail/bun and went about my business. All of those products you can get at wal-mart. They aren't fancy but they get the job done.

ETA: I bought the Shea moisture curl and style milk to kind of put on my edges in the mornings because that area got really dry. It's really moisturizing. You can get it at Walgreens.

Hope that helps a bit.
On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
Hey Anna!

Thanks for the product suggestions! I did use Tresseme for a while, but my hair seems to grow resistant to some products and that brand is one of them LOLZ huh.

HOWEVER I had not even thought of VO5! I remember my mother using it on my curly head when i was really little. I gotta try that again!!

My edges get terribly dry too. Especially in the back just behind the ears, and the widows peak like area. OOh boy do they feel like the desert sometimes. Do you wet your hair a little before the Shea Milk (like you are sealing) or just slather it on directly to the dry areas?

Many thanks!
TheFab
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
Yep I wet my hair a little and used it to seal. It's pretty effective for my trouble areas like around the temples. And a little goes a long way. ALSO now I use Giovanni smooth as silk conditioner and either spray it with water or a little oil as a leave in. I ran out of the milk haha

If tresemme doesn't work (and it works MUCH better now that I'm entirely natural) try yes to carrots conditioner. It's at target and Walgreens for like eight dollars. There's less in the bottle (than tresemme) but it's wonderful as a rinse out. Or a leave in, too, if you want something heavier.

VO5 Moisture milks in passion fruit smoothie is soooo great. And it's always less than a dollar.

And as someone said above, if you want to, wrap your twist outs around perm rods. And if the twists won't stay on your relaxed ends twist at the beginning, braid a bit in the middle (three strands) and twist at the end. So it won't unravel.

I'll try and think of more to help haha. Sorry for my terrible punctuation. I was going fast.

On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
Yeah I think my hair will be a lot less picky when it grows out and I get rid of these relaxed ends. I've started trimming bits off when I have it in twists. The back is super short cause I had an inverted bob so it looks like that will finish off first lol

The Giovanni, is that pricey? Do you get it at a beauty supply?
I am considering the yes to carrots if it's heavy. My hair loooves heavy conditioner. I think way back when I was using redken too, but they discontinued my fav deep conditioning packs for a while. It smelled REDUNKULOUS good. However that was back when I was on my parents dime lol.
I'm goin thru the same prob right now and what's working for me is flat twist outs it seems to blend the two textures VERY WELL

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Originally Posted by NaturalOutlaw
Yeah the first twistout I did was a flat twist actually and that was okay. Except I think I missed properly twisting a bunch of strands some of it was straight halfway through then twisted near the end!

I need some practice but the new growth look gorgeous
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Hi Naturalnewb

lol like that name!
Anywaysss thanks for the tips on the twists, I will attempt to try that this weekend. Are these flexirods something I can get at a Target or Walmart? Or is it something from a beauty supply?

I have heard of sealing for dryness, but I haven't seemed to perfected the art yet. Either that or my Jojoba oil is fake! I found it at an arab store in brooklyn for cheap, but it seems to have two oils that separate and i think it has very little jojoba in it.

I haven't a clue where to get Ecostyler or Castor oil....I have heard of them. Any ideas? I'm willing to go to any Borough of NYC Or buy online
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
In NY I've seen it in Rite Aid, Target, Walgreens, CVS, Wal-Mart, Sally's, Beauty Supply Stores, and other drug stores. I hope this helps. If you want pure Castor Oil try a health food store or a West Indian market
Originally Posted by hippiedoll
Thanks for the location suggestions Hippiedoll, I guess you are in NY too? I don't know where the West Indian stores are. Are there any in Brooklyn?
Originally Posted by TheFabuliste
Yes there's a lot in Crown Heights St. Marks ave to be specific. You can also try Bedford Stuyvesant as well near Franklin Avenue
Products I'm currently :
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Sweet Ambrosia (Vanilla Latte scent)
  • Shea Moisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl & Style Milk
  • Certified Organic Coconut Oil
  • Karen's Body Beautiful Heavenly Jojoba Oil
Staple Deep Conditioners: Giovanni Direct Leave-in and Karen's Body Beautiful Luscious Locks Hair Mask

Recent newbie to the Curly Girl Method
6 months post relaxer. I will be 7 months post September 17 !!
You can get Giovanni at Walmart and it's like seven or eight dollars per item. Not pricey, but not like dirt cheap.

On the phone! Sorry for teh errerz.
Last relaxer: 8.4.10
BC: 9.6.11

when will your favs?

Hey ladies!! Thanks for suggestions and tips so far!

Anna and Hippee I will look for those products over the weekend and make a decision.

Now I wanted to show you all what I meant by my F'd up twist out. I do a normal twist and this is what turns out. My first flat twists weren't much better.




Does anyone know where to get detailed instructions for either method? I think I am parting wrong with the flat twist. And well you see my hanging twist results lol
I tried like crazy to find a Youtube example of how to do a twist out on transitioning hair and could NOT find the ones I depended on when I converted to heat-free transitioning last year. Sorry. But, if you're willing to search a bit harder than I was today, I'm sure you can find a good one.

As for parting, I just use my fingers and sort of haphazardly make my way through my hair. I try to keep the twists all around the same size, but I am not so careful with the parting because I don't want the parts to show when I finally take the untwist my hair for the final look.

Also, I cannot say for sure, but it looks like you may not be using enough product with your twist out. Natural hair holds a pattern/curl much easier than relaxed hair does. So you will need to use a curl creme, gel, or setting lotion to get your relaxed hair to hold the style.





With regards to twistouts, my experience during my transition was they didn't work until I had only an inch or so of relaxed ends remaining simply because the curly texture is what kept them twisted until they dried. An alternate might be to use A LOT of product but then, you don't want to wait for these things to dry for days!!! Granted, for twists (and braidouts) you really do need to apply enough product to provide a proper set.

My go to style from start to finish was braidouts. Since with braids, you can braid both textures to get a consistent texture from root to tip.

With braidouts or twist outs you might want to try placing short permrods (with a tissue paper end wrap on the ends) so you have curly ends. I actually preferred these soft rollers (also used with end wraps), I can't recall what they are called but they are soft so sleeping in them is not a problem. There are white ones and black ones, they have like a foam center that you roll/wrap the hair around and then you simply fold/twist the two ends over to secure the roller. These definitely are not those old school pink or black foam & plastic rollers. I've had mine for so long that I don't recall if I purchased mine at Sally's or somewhere else. But I did a quick search and see that Walgreens has the CONAIR STYLING ESSENTIALS PILLOW SOFT ROLLERS for $7.99 - 18 rollers. If you do more than 18 twists/braids, make sure you buy 2 packs cause you need one per twist/braid and you MUST make sure you purchase the tissue paper end wraps to place on the ends of your hair so it doesn't get tangled in the foam/cloth core.

Hope that helps.
Knot Today is the best detangler ever! For me, it is easier to do the braidout vs. the twistout. When I braid it, it comes out great! Also, you may need to trim your ends. When you do a braid out, put a roller or rod at the ends to make sure it has a nice curly end.
Why waste money on good products to care for hair that yo are going to cut off anyway.
I would suggest getting some extensions until you hair is at a length that you can chop the relaxed hair off and manage your natural hair. That is what I did.

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