Bad braid/twist outs

I hope there is help for me. I have been transitioning since July 2011 and at first it was all good. The last month or so has been hard. Detangling is ok but my braid outs or twist outs come out frizzy and won't "curl over" quite rite. I use a leave in, Shea moisture curl smoothie and organic root stim hair pudding (the smoothie i do like for moisture; used to like the pudding more earlier on, now its just ok) I use pink ecostyler only for styling. I know I need a better moisturizer and/or sealer. I am having a problem with dryness. I am frustrated and tired of wearing a bun or ponytail. Please help any advice is appreciated.
I hope there is help for me. I have been transitioning since July 2011 and at first it was all good. The last month or so has been hard. Detangling is ok but my braid outs or twist outs come out frizzy and won't "curl over" quite rite. I use a leave in, Shea moisture curl smoothie and organic root stim hair pudding (the smoothie i do like for moisture; used to like the pudding more earlier on, now its just ok) I use pink ecostyler only for styling. I know I need a better moisturizer and/or sealer. I am having a problem with dryness. I am frustrated and tired of wearing a bun or ponytail. Please help any advice is appreciated.
Originally Posted by newseason
When I still had heat damaged ends, I would either wear a cornrow ponytail (with extensions) as a protective style, or I would do cornrow-outs, which gave me a more consistent curl pattern. For the dryness, it could be the protein in the Shea moisture or it could be that you don't seem to be sealing with any oils...do you know if you're protein sensitive? Also, do you do regular deep treatments?
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I was experiencing frizz awhile ago when I use to take out my braid in the morning before work. My braid outs use to come out dry and frizzy. I bagged my hair at night with a shower cap over night for my hair to hold in moisture. In the mornings I get a wet curly look. It's okay if your hair is still a little damp in the morning try to touch it much and let it air dry. Then fluff it as the day goes on. I hope this helps. I also don't leave the plastic cap on all night. I take it off either before I go to sleep (I bag my hair for a couple of hours before I go to sleep) or I wake up in the middle of the night and remove it. Then I sleep with my satin bonnet.


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I was experiencing frizz awhile ago when I use to take out my braid in the morning before work. My braid outs use to come out dry and frizzy. I bagged my hair at night with a shower cap over night for my hair to hold in moisture. In the mornings I get a wet curly look. It's okay if your hair is still a little damp. Try not to touch a lot. Let the rest of the hair air dry. Then fluff it as the day goes on. I hope this helps. I also don't leave the plastic cap on all night. I take it off either before I go to sleep (I bag my hair for a couple of hours before I go to sleep) or I wake up in the middle of the night and remove it. Then I sleep with my satin bonnet.


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Sorry don't know why this posted twice. Blame the iPhone!


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Staple Deep Conditioners: Giovanni Direct Leave-in and Karen's Body Beautiful Luscious Locks Hair Mask

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6 months post relaxer. I will be 7 months post September 17 !!
Thank u all. I will try bagging. I have never even thought to try that. It makes sense; my hair is like a sponge when it comes to moisture. I also never considered the protein n the Shea moisture. Can u recommend a good moisturizer w/out all the protein? I am new to this so thanks for any/all help
Also how do I know it I am protein sensitive?
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No one is really protein sensitive our hair is made up of protein. We also eat some form of protein. You may be using too many products that add extra protein to your hair. This may cause your hair to become dry and brittle. Take a strand of hair that's already been shedded, and pull it. If it breaks instantly then your hair needs moisture. You can also poke around at the other forums on this site and see what other ladies say about being protein sensitive.
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Hi new season. I did a flat twist out a few days ok using the Shea Moisture Shampoo, conditioner and curl enhancing smoothie and like you my hair turned out puffy and frizzy. I was a little heavy handed with the smoothie and the extra puff may have come from work. They turn the air off and then back in the morning and it was hot when I went into the office. I'm going to try again without the smoothie. But my hair feels moisturized and somewhat curly throughout. Just very frizzy/ puffy.

I normally use the smoothie for twists and my hair turns out great.
When I still had heat damaged ends, I would either wear a cornrow ponytail (with extensions) as a protective style, or I would do cornrow-outs, which gave me a more consistent curl pattern. For the dryness, it could be the protein in the Shea moisture or it could be that you don't seem to be sealing with any oils...do you know if you're protein sensitive? Also, do you do regular deep treatments?[/QUOTE]


Update- twist out came out much better this week. And u were right I wasn't sealing with oil. I purchased some and moisturized with my Shea moisture smoothie while damp and sealed after. There was a noticable difference and my hair laid differently. So thanks that helped alot. I didn't realize that was so important.
When I still had heat damaged ends, I would either wear a cornrow ponytail (with extensions) as a protective style, or I would do cornrow-outs, which gave me a more consistent curl pattern. For the dryness, it could be the protein in the Shea moisture or it could be that you don't seem to be sealing with any oils...do you know if you're protein sensitive? Also, do you do regular deep treatments?
Originally Posted by newseason

Update- twist out came out much better this week. And u were right I wasn't sealing with oil. I purchased some and moisturized with my Shea moisture smoothie while damp and sealed after. There was a noticable difference and my hair laid differently. So thanks that helped alot. I didn't realize that was so important.[/QUOTE]

great! so glad it worked out for you
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You might want to try a different combination of products. I tried Organic Root Stimulator hair pudding when I first transitioned and it tended to dry my hair out really quickly--it would be frizzy/crunchy w/in 24 hours. I would suggest skipping the ORS and try the smoothie + ecostyler.

I also tried the smoothie as a styler when I was transitioning...I think it works better as a moisturizer. It didn't have enough hold to give me the definition I wanted with my twistouts so I always combine it with the blue ecostyler.





Is your hair completely dry when you take out the twists and braids. I notice that when my hair is not completely dry, I experience a lot of frizz.

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You might want to try a different combination of products. I tried Organic Root Stimulator hair pudding when I first transitioned and it tended to dry my hair out really quickly--it would be frizzy/crunchy w/in 24 hours. I would suggest skipping the ORS and try the smoothie + ecostyler.

I also tried the smoothie as a styler when I was transitioning...I think it works better as a moisturizer. It didn't have enough hold to give me the definition I wanted with my twistouts so I always combine it with the blue ecostyler.
Originally Posted by naturalnewb
U know what? U are absolutely right about the ORS pudding. I tried the smoothie with my pink ecostyler and then finished with oil for my braidout and it did not come out frizzy! Thank u so much! I did not realize that was the problem. I was getting slightly crunchy hair but I thought it was the change n my hair from transitioning. And I do like the smoothie much more as a moisturizer combined with the ecostyler. Thanks a million for the tips!

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