Pattern Coming Back!

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Hey everyone! Just wanted to say that my curl pattern is slowly coming back. I saw my roots and I believe it is what people would call 'new growth' because I'm actually seeing my hair curling at the roots!! I even pulled my gently to stretch the strand out then watched the root bounce back into a curl lol.

However for some reason my hair can't seem to retain moisture very well. I'm drinking more water. And for my hair routine today I shampooed my hair with African Black Soap Deep Cleansing Shampoo..Then I used Curl Max Deep Penetrating Conditioner. I only use my deep conditioner once every two weeks. The first time I used it it worked so well on my hair and left it hydrated! But this time my hair became dry..I don't understand what I did wrong.. ._.;

And when I put up my hair in bontu knots I used curl enhancing smoothie by Shea Moisture and a little bit of Clear scalp and hair therapy mostly for my ends and scalp.

Maybe I'm just using too much protein? :/
Do you know what your hair properties and dew points are? Coarse hair often doesn't do well with protein.

Alkaline soaps are quite harsh on hair, what is the pH of that shampoo? What leave in conditioner are you using?
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
it is better to wait until your hair tells you it needs protein treatment than when you think you should be using protein. I learned that the "hard" way. If you give your hair protein when it doesnt need it itlikely wont react well to it.
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Hey you two! Sorry for my delayed response. :3
I looked at the bottle and I didn't see anything about PH levels or anything.. So I may have to look more into the brand or something. :/

The curl enhancing smoothie said it would condition the hair..so I thought that would act as a leave in conditioner. Though I usually use something else such as: Olive oil leave in conditioner. The brand is Palmer's. Or I would use Olive Miracle leave in conditioner which treats my hair better..and the brand is African Pride.

Sorry I don't know what type of hair I have at all.. :/ All I know is that it's black hair and that isn't even specific enough.

And how will I know if my hair needs the protein? I don't know how to tell.

And thank you guys.
Can you list the ingredients in your shampoo and conditioners?

You may be using products with too much silicone and/or protein in it which your hair doesn't like.
Sorry for my delay. I didn't see the reply. @_@;

Right now I have a shampoo I clarify with once or twice a month which is the It's ingredients are:
Deionized water, Decyl Glucoside(sugar beets), African Black Soap, Salicylic Acid, Salix Alba(Willow), Bark Extract, Melia Azadirachta(Neem Seed Oil, Charcoal Powder, Melaleuca Alternifolia(Tea Tree)Leaf Oil, Simmondsia chinensis seed(Jojoba) Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea) Oil, Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Vitamin E, Rosemary Extract, Plantain Extract, Lonicera Caprifolium(Honeysuckle) Flower(and) Lonicera Japonica(Japanese Honeysuckle) Flower Extract.

My regular shampoo ingredients are:
Deionized water, Decyl Glucoside(Sugar beets), African Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea Butter), Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Argan Oil, Panthenol(Pro-Vitamin B-5, Rosemary Extract, Sea Kelp Extract, Vitamin E, Lonicera Caprifolium(Honeysuckle)Flower (and) Lonicera Japonica (Japanese Honeysuckle) Flower Extract.

My conditioner I use as a pre shampoo or just to condition.
Ingredients are:
Deoinized water, Cocos Nucifera(Coconut) Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea Butter), Mangifera Indica(Mango) Seed Butter, Persea Gratissima(Avocado) Oil, African Black Soap Extract, Behentrimonium Chloride, Salicylic Acid, Salix Alba(Willow) Bark Extract, Melia Azadirachta(Neem) Seed Oil, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Simmondsia chinensis seed (Jojoba) OIl, Sorbitol Esters, Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Vitamin E, Rosemary Extract, Plantain Extractm Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) Flower (and ) Lancira Japonica (JApanese Honeysuckle) Flower Extract.

And another conditioner but it can be used as a leave-in, rinse out, and deep conditioner. I use it as a leave-in mainly.
Ingredients:
Deionized water, Butyrospermum Parkii(Shea butter), Argan oil, Coconut Oil, Behentriumonium Chloride, Essential Oil Blend, Vegetable Glycerin, Emulsifying Wax, Sea Kelp Extract, Panthenol(Vitamin B-5), Avocado Oil, Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) Flower (and) Lonicera Japonica (Japanese Honesuckle) Flower Extract, Tocopherol(Vitamin E), Daucus Carota Sativa (Carrot) Seed Oil.

All are from the Shea Moisture brand...so..yeah...
I noticed that apart from your clarifying shampoo all your products have shea butter as one of the first five ingredients.

Your hair simply may not like it if:
1. You have to clarify regularly - even once a month is a lot.
2. You can't retain moisture.

I would:
1. Change products - get products that don't contain shea butter so you don't have build up that requires clarifying. You may be fine using shea butter as an occasional leave in but not using it in shampoos and conditioners.
2. Experiment with using oils such as coconut, almond and olive in your routine - there are a few threads on how different curlies use them on hair

It took me a couple of years of being natural before I found the products that worked for my hair.
Thank you so much for the reply! I will do as you suggest.

My hair seems to not be able to keep it's moisture at all.

Basically if it doesn't have shea butter or any other kind of wax in it then I might be able to use it? I've tried olive oil...it hasn't really helped that much. >.<
I've tried only coconut oil by putting it on my hair then putting a cap on once every few weeks. It's okay though.

I haven't tried almond oil though. But I will do some more experimenting. I've been keeping a hair journal so I remember what I'm doing with my hair.

Thank you again Blue! ^-^
I found this article on the main site - LOC Method: The Routine EVERY Curly Should Know

One thing you need to do is if you follow a method where you use one product after another is see whether your products will react with each other before you put them on your hair.

If they react you will end up with white foam in your hair when damp, or white bits in your hair when it dries.

I can't find the youtube videos for it but the simplest way to check is to put a bit of each product on the palm of one hand and rub your hands together. If it foams or turns white then you know not to use those products together.
Thank you so much for the reply! I will do as you suggest.

My hair seems to not be able to keep it's moisture at all.

Basically if it doesn't have shea butter or any other kind of wax in it then I might be able to use it? I've tried olive oil...it hasn't really helped that much. >.<
I've tried only coconut oil by putting it on my hair then putting a cap on once every few weeks. It's okay though.

I haven't tried almond oil though. But I will do some more experimenting. I've been keeping a hair journal so I remember what I'm doing with my hair.

Thank you again Blue! ^-^
Originally Posted by Lechin
You need to persevere with deep oil treatments and do them regularly initially - once or twice a week depending how often you wash - instant gratification generally comes from silicones, it's not a real improvement just superficial.

The research for coconut oil is on dry hair then left overnight to twenty four hours, heat increases the absorption so your cap is worthwhile.

The smoothie claims to be a conditioning styling product but it's not a 'true' conditioner - that would be rich in the major emollients (fatty alcohols and cationic surfactants). Do be aware that oils and butters are not moisturising - add or increase water - they are actually anti humectants.

You do need to know your hair properties, check out the stickies on the newbies board and the information on the Live Curly Live Free site or consider a hair analysis - Goosefootprints on Etsy is well priced.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

Last edited by Firefox7275; 09-28-2013 at 04:03 PM.
I will try that method of mixing the products before putting it on my hair. Sounds like I'm doing chemistry experiments or something. o.O

I still have my coconut oil so I can do the oil treatments Firefox. I have a question though. I never know when to do the treatment. Before shampooing, in between shampooing and conditioning...?

I've tried a strand test..I thought it may have been a 3c or a 4a but I have to do it again just to make sure. I'll check out the threads though.

Edit: I checked out the threads and they were very helpful. I know that I have coarse hair and it's thick. And my hair sounds like from the description in the article I've read that it may be high porosity.. >.<

Last edited by Lechin; 09-29-2013 at 10:08 AM.

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