Am I A Traitor If I Get A Texturizer After My Transition

I'm new to this site. What is BC??
Isa
Originally Posted by isa
Welcome!

And BC stands for Big Chop, when you decide to chop off your relaxed ends and reveal your natural hair in all its glory.
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Lillu,

Now we are confirmed BC sistas and I'll wait until our BC in April. We can do it! and thanks for keeping me going.
Cyn
Originally Posted by cysyca
Hiya honey!! How is it going?

I've a little update... i did a little chop on the back layer of my hair right underneath, where I think it is more 3b than 3c... and when its wet it is ringlety and soft and hangs downwards... so far so good!!

But when its dry, and I comb it out to flat iron it, its sticks straight out and is HUGE! Im having nightmare reminders of when I was a kid... if all of my hair is like this (and this is the least curly bit so the rest will be worse) how am I going to cope with it???????????????????????? I am one step closer to being a traitor!!!

What is your natural growth like now, and how are you dealing with it?

Thanks for all your support so far honey! xxxxx
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Transitioned Sep'07-Nov'08
BCed 21st Nov 2008!!

My hair likes:
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Condish: AOHR
Co-wash: Original Source Tea Tree Mint
Post-BC hair HATES protein!
I'm new to this site. What is BC??
Isa
Originally Posted by isa

BIG CHOP,

To cutt all of the relaxed ends off.
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Lillu,

Now we are confirmed BC sistas and I'll wait until our BC in April. We can do it! and thanks for keeping me going.
Cyn
Originally Posted by cysyca
Hiya honey!! How is it going?

I've a little update... i did a little chop on the back layer of my hair right underneath, where I think it is more 3b than 3c... and when its wet it is ringlety and soft and hangs downwards... so far so good!!

But when its dry, and I comb it out to flat iron it, its sticks straight out and is HUGE! Im having nightmare reminders of when I was a kid... if all of my hair is like this (and this is the least curly bit so the rest will be worse) how am I going to cope with it???????????????????????? I am one step closer to being a traitor!!!

What is your natural growth like now, and how are you dealing with it?

Thanks for all your support so far honey! xxxxx
Originally Posted by Lillu
Hi Lillu,

Your hair sounds lovely and full of body and I understand if you don't want to BC in April and you're not a traitor.

My natural growth is also a challenge because my hair is so thick but fine and the 2 different textures are driving me crazy. It was easier dealing with this when I wore braids instead of a bun, but hey, I'm never bored. Another way I'm dealing with this is by becoming a product junkie, to see what products work for me.

Anyway, you are still by BC sista whether you want to BC in April or not.
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I'm keeping my options open and wonder if anyone else is at least thinking about getting a texturizer espeically if your hair becomes unmanageable? I know for sure that I'll never get my hair fully relaxed but I don't know if I won't say "no" to a texturizer. I still have until April 09 but I'm keeping Miss Jessie on speed dial.
Originally Posted by cysyca

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Hi Lillu,

Your hair sounds lovely and full of body and I understand if you don't want to BC in April and you're not a traitor.

My natural growth is also a challenge because my hair is so thick but fine and the 2 different textures are driving me crazy. It was easier dealing with this when I wore braids instead of a bun, but hey, I'm never bored. Another way I'm dealing with this is by becoming a product junkie, to see what products work for me.

Anyway, you are still by BC sista whether you want to BC in April or not.
Originally Posted by cysyca
Thanks honey!! Yep I'm still on track for the April BC, for sure! I am really hoping that the extra few inches I'll have by then will mean my hair will hang down when its dry-combed instead of out... do any other curlies have the same thing when they comb their hair? I mean i know combing curly hair when its dry always ends in disaster, but it looks like ive been electrified!!

Anyway you are sooooooooo right abut the product junkie thing! The only thing that will save me from turning to the texturiser after April is some good-ass products!! Ive gone and ordered a heap of Karen's Body Beautiful stuff, and the Jessicurl WDT... have u tried any of these things??
3c spirals & corkscrews!
Transitioned Sep'07-Nov'08
BCed 21st Nov 2008!!

My hair likes:
Alba Botanical Leave-in is my irst HG :-)
Condish: AOHR
Co-wash: Original Source Tea Tree Mint
Post-BC hair HATES protein!
Anyway you are sooooooooo right abut the product junkie thing! The only thing that will save me from turning to the texturiser after April is some good-ass products!! Ive gone and ordered a heap of Karen's Body Beautiful stuff, and the Jessicurl WDT... have u tried any of these things??
Originally Posted by Lillu
I just got the Jessicurl WDT and have been using it as a deep conditioner and as a leave-in with good results. It's very moisturizing.
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Last relaxer: Feb. 2008
Big Chop:
Jan. 2009
Anyway you are sooooooooo right abut the product junkie thing! The only thing that will save me from turning to the texturiser after April is some good-ass products!! Ive gone and ordered a heap of Karen's Body Beautiful stuff, and the Jessicurl WDT... have u tried any of these things??
Originally Posted by Lillu
I just got the Jessicurl WDT and have been using it as a deep conditioner and as a leave-in with good results. It's very moisturizing.
Originally Posted by mixeded
Yes, I tried Jessicurl WDT and it's great. I also learned that can't use shea butter on my hair cuz I woke up the other day and my hair was as hard a brick! No kidding, I couldn't even run my fingers through my hair. But on the positive side, my skin loves shea butter.
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Anyway you are sooooooooo right abut the product junkie thing! The only thing that will save me from turning to the texturiser after April is some good-ass products!! Ive gone and ordered a heap of Karen's Body Beautiful stuff, and the Jessicurl WDT... have u tried any of these things??
Originally Posted by Lillu
I just got the Jessicurl WDT and have been using it as a deep conditioner and as a leave-in with good results. It's very moisturizing.
Originally Posted by mixeded
Hi mixeded, I have just had a look at your pics, and your curls are really lovely!! My hair looks really similar to yours, so hopefully the WDT will work for me too then, i am still waiting for my KBB and Jessiecurl WDT, but they should be here anyday now, so excited!
3c spirals & corkscrews!
Transitioned Sep'07-Nov'08
BCed 21st Nov 2008!!

My hair likes:
Alba Botanical Leave-in is my irst HG :-)
Condish: AOHR
Co-wash: Original Source Tea Tree Mint
Post-BC hair HATES protein!
Anyway you are sooooooooo right abut the product junkie thing! The only thing that will save me from turning to the texturiser after April is some good-ass products!! Ive gone and ordered a heap of Karen's Body Beautiful stuff, and the Jessicurl WDT... have u tried any of these things??
Originally Posted by Lillu
I just got the Jessicurl WDT and have been using it as a deep conditioner and as a leave-in with good results. It's very moisturizing.
Originally Posted by mixeded
Hi mixeded, I have just had a look at your pics, and your curls are really lovely!! My hair looks really similar to yours, so hopefully the WDT will work for me too then, i am still waiting for my KBB and Jessiecurl WDT, but they should be here anyday now, so excited!
Originally Posted by Lillu
Thank you! Good luck with those products and be sure to let us know how they work for you.
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Last relaxer: Feb. 2008
Big Chop:
Jan. 2009
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You know from you photos, your new growth looks great. It looks like you're trying to flatten it out. It may be time for you to work with the volume rather than making it conform with the straight stuff.
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Okay, maybe traitor was the wrong word, and yes I only have to please myself. Thank you ladies for responding and I just wanted to know how most of the NC people felt about getting a tex after transitioning.
Originally Posted by cysyca
Your decision to get or not get a tex/lax is a personal choice...I understand that you may feel a bit apprehensive about the idea, but it's really all about what works best for you.

I initially thought about tex/lax'ing when I was in the transition stage because I really had no idea of what to do with my hair and I didn't see anyone else with my bizarre hair type.

But, once I began really figuring out what my hair responds to best, I realized I didn't want to tex/lax at all. I began to really love my hair in its natural state and to just prefer it that way (and I'm still learning to love it; it's a work in progress).

Your hair won't be unmanageable, it'll just take time to figure out what does and doesn't work. I don't use Miss Jessie's, but I did begin using the KCCC (literally today). That combined with my spritzes and shea balms works wonders for my hair...
Last Relaxer: October 2007
Transition Period: 1 Year
Final Big Chop: October 2008
Hair Type: 4A/3B/3A/4B WTH?




Your hair won't be unmanageable, it'll just take time to figure out what does and doesn't work.
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
This is so true!!!

My hair is COMPLETELY different depending on what products i put on it and how I treat it. For example today i tried Karen's Body Beautiful stuff which apparently my hair totally hates, and therefore i have the roughest, frizziest poofiest horrible hair ive ever had... yet a few days ago i had the most lovely soft moisturised ringlets ever, you wouldnt belive it's the same hair!

Honestly finding the right products can work miracles and can total change your hair, for me even more so than actually getting my hair chemically processed!

I have to tell myself on days like this 'dont give up on your hair,because it is and can be beautiful'!!! I'm going to try the Jesicurl WDT at last tonight... i am praying it wil fix this awful KBB mess!!!
3c spirals & corkscrews!
Transitioned Sep'07-Nov'08
BCed 21st Nov 2008!!

My hair likes:
Alba Botanical Leave-in is my irst HG :-)
Condish: AOHR
Co-wash: Original Source Tea Tree Mint
Post-BC hair HATES protein!

But, once I began really figuring out what my hair responds to best, I realized I didn't want to tex/lax at all. I began to really love my hair in its natural state and to just prefer it that way (and I'm still learning to love it; it's a work in progress).

Your hair won't be unmanageable, it'll just take time to figure out what does and doesn't work. I don't use Miss Jessie's, but I did begin using the KCCC (literally today). That combined with my spritzes and shea balms works wonders for my hair...
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
MissCurlyCue,

In the beginning I thought I needed a backup plan but after discovering NC, doing research, learing about different products, and just appreciating my unique hair, I've overcome getting a tex.

It's great that you're learning to love your hair and I plan to do the same thing.

My biggest challenge would be managing my time. For example:
- I work 8 to 9 hours a day
- Commute 3 hours a day
- Online Grad Program 4 hours a day (start Jan 1)
- Natural hair (goal is to spend less than 1 hour)

As you can see, I have to come up with a plan and soon. I also keep reading about KCCC and I'll try that after I BC.

Thank you for the encouragement.
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[quote=cysyca;762688]

I also keep reading about KCCC and I'll try that after I BC.
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Hi cys!

I am dying to try KCCC too, have heard SO much about it on here! The Jessicurl WDT was pretty damn good, not as good as BB, but on the other hand it didnt making my scalp itch, so i'm pretty impressed. I have totally different hair to yesterday, it's back to the ringlets and no frizz thankfully. Am going to get some Too Shea hopefully, have you tried that?
3c spirals & corkscrews!
Transitioned Sep'07-Nov'08
BCed 21st Nov 2008!!

My hair likes:
Alba Botanical Leave-in is my irst HG :-)
Condish: AOHR
Co-wash: Original Source Tea Tree Mint
Post-BC hair HATES protein!
[quote=Lillu;763256]
quote]

Hi cys!

I am dying to try KCCC too, have heard SO much about it on here! The Jessicurl WDT was pretty damn good, not as good as BB, but on the other hand it didnt making my scalp itch, so i'm pretty impressed. I have totally different hair to yesterday, it's back to the ringlets and no frizz thankfully. Am going to get some Too Shea hopefully, have you tried that?
Originally Posted by cysyca
Hello Lillu,
I haven't tried Too Shea, and I'm trying really hard not to become a PJ before I BC. But when I BC I have a list of products I wanna try and the first ones will be KCCC & KCKT.
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But, once I began really figuring out what my hair responds to best, I realized I didn't want to tex/lax at all. I began to really love my hair in its natural state and to just prefer it that way (and I'm still learning to love it; it's a work in progress).

Your hair won't be unmanageable, it'll just take time to figure out what does and doesn't work. I don't use Miss Jessie's, but I did begin using the KCCC (literally today). That combined with my spritzes and shea balms works wonders for my hair...
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
MissCurlyCue,

In the beginning I thought I needed a backup plan but after discovering NC, doing research, learing about different products, and just appreciating my unique hair, I've overcome getting a tex.

It's great that you're learning to love your hair and I plan to do the same thing.

My biggest challenge would be managing my time. For example:
- I work 8 to 9 hours a day
- Commute 3 hours a day
- Online Grad Program 4 hours a day (start Jan 1)
- Natural hair (goal is to spend less than 1 hour)

As you can see, I have to come up with a plan and soon. I also keep reading about KCCC and I'll try that after I BC.

Thank you for the encouragement.
Originally Posted by cysyca

Cysyca, the natural hair boards have DEFINITELY given me tons of information about what I can try for my hair or even how to approach my hair. I don't use combs/brushes anymore (definitely no brush and a comb maybe once every three months, if that). I learned that from the hairboards and it really, really works for my hair.

I don't usually participate on the boards (I'm a dedicated lurker), but I often go there to find out about how people with my hairtype respond to products, etc. I'm also learning how to scale back my time on the hairboards, though.

KCCC is ridiculously priced, but it is by far among the top items I've ever used for my hair. I won't be repurchasing it until she brings the price down, but for the jar that I have (I really just wanted to see if it worked), it's truly just fantastic. I don't use it with the KCKT, but many people do...some people mix them up and then apply it, which I'd like to try since I already bought a bottle.

I'm going to write down what I've been doing for my hair in my album soon because my current hair regimen is surprisingly effective. I don't experience breakage/snapping and my hair stays really soft and moist. Even I'm surprised. I'll eventually put up what I've been doing with my hair in my Fotki...if your texture is anywhere similar to my crazy multi-texture, then hopefully you can get a few ideas from it. I'm definitely not a product junkie. I find one item that works and I stick to it! I'll put up my regimen in Fotki soon along with some updated pics.
Last Relaxer: October 2007
Transition Period: 1 Year
Final Big Chop: October 2008
Hair Type: 4A/3B/3A/4B WTH?




But, once I began really figuring out what my hair responds to best, I realized I didn't want to tex/lax at all. I began to really love my hair in its natural state and to just prefer it that way (and I'm still learning to love it; it's a work in progress).

Your hair won't be unmanageable, it'll just take time to figure out what does and doesn't work. I don't use Miss Jessie's, but I did begin using the KCCC (literally today). That combined with my spritzes and shea balms works wonders for my hair...
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
Originally Posted by cysyca
Cysyca, the natural hair boards have DEFINITELY given me tons of information about what I can try for my hair or even how to approach my hair. I don't use combs/brushes anymore (definitely no brush and a comb maybe once every three months, if that). I learned that from the hairboards and it really, really works for my hair.

I don't usually participate on the boards (I'm a dedicated lurker), but I often go there to find out about how people with my hairtype respond to products, etc. I'm also learning how to scale back my time on the hairboards, though.

KCCC is ridiculously priced, but it is by far among the top items I've ever used for my hair. I won't be repurchasing it until she brings the price down, but for the jar that I have (I really just wanted to see if it worked), it's truly just fantastic. I don't use it with the KCKT, but many people do...some people mix them up and then apply it, which I'd like to try since I already bought a bottle.

I'm going to write down what I've been doing for my hair in my album soon because my current hair regimen is surprisingly effective. I don't experience breakage/snapping and my hair stays really soft and moist. Even I'm surprised. I'll eventually put up what I've been doing with my hair in my Fotki...if your texture is anywhere similar to my crazy multi-texture, then hopefully you can get a few ideas from it. I'm definitely not a product junkie. I find one item that works and I stick to it! I'll put up my regimen in Fotki soon along with some updated pics.
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
I have to pull back on NC soon (around Dec) and I'll probably become a dedicated lurker too.

My natural hair also stays soft and moist and I'm surprise, thought it would have been hard and dry. Your hair seems to be very healthy, and I look forward to seeing your Fotki. I'll probably order KCCC and KCKT early in March (it takes forever for some of these products to be delivered) and I'll let you know how it works. Also, are you going to try the no poo method? See link below. This sounds like a plan for me because I used to wash my hair at least 3 to 4 times for a squeezie clean feeling but I think I'm been overdoing it.
Introduction to the no-poo method

Yes, it's a good idea to write down the products being used but I also have to be careful of the amount of products I use. Weeks ago I used unrefined shea butter and I loved it so much, I went crazy. Now, I use only a small amount which goes a long way on my hair.

Right now I have braids (natural hair extensions, not long) and it's easier for me to transition this way plus I do my own braids. Prior to braiding my hair this time, I cut 4 or more inches of relaxed hair and it was easier to cut than I thought but I'll wait until April to complete my BC, what about you?

Anyway, thanks for responding and I love your pic on your Fotki, great smile!
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Cysyca, the natural hair boards have DEFINITELY given me tons of information about what I can try for my hair or even how to approach my hair. I don't use combs/brushes anymore (definitely no brush and a comb maybe once every three months, if that). I learned that from the hairboards and it really, really works for my hair.

I don't usually participate on the boards (I'm a dedicated lurker), but I often go there to find out about how people with my hairtype respond to products, etc. I'm also learning how to scale back my time on the hairboards, though.

KCCC is ridiculously priced, but it is by far among the top items I've ever used for my hair. I won't be repurchasing it until she brings the price down, but for the jar that I have (I really just wanted to see if it worked), it's truly just fantastic. I don't use it with the KCKT, but many people do...some people mix them up and then apply it, which I'd like to try since I already bought a bottle.

I'm going to write down what I've been doing for my hair in my album soon because my current hair regimen is surprisingly effective. I don't experience breakage/snapping and my hair stays really soft and moist. Even I'm surprised. I'll eventually put up what I've been doing with my hair in my Fotki...if your texture is anywhere similar to my crazy multi-texture, then hopefully you can get a few ideas from it. I'm definitely not a product junkie. I find one item that works and I stick to it! I'll put up my regimen in Fotki soon along with some updated pics.
Originally Posted by MissCurlyCue
I have to pull back on NC soon (around Dec) and I'll probably become a dedicated lurker too.

My natural hair also stays soft and moist and I'm surprise, thought it would have been hard and dry. Your hair seems to be very healthy, and I look forward to seeing your Fotki. I'll probably order KCCC and KCKT early in March (it takes forever for some of these products to be delivered) and I'll let you know how it works. Also, are you going to try the no poo method? See link below. This sounds like a plan for me because I used to wash my hair at least 3 to 4 times for a squeezie clean feeling but I think I'm been overdoing it.
Introduction to the no-poo method

Yes, it's a good idea to write down the products being used but I also have to be careful of the amount of products I use. Weeks ago I used unrefined shea butter and I loved it so much, I went crazy. Now, I use only a small amount which goes a long way on my hair.

Right now I have braids (natural hair extensions, not long) and it's easier for me to transition this way plus I do my own braids. Prior to braiding my hair this time, I cut 4 or more inches of relaxed hair and it was easier to cut than I thought but I'll wait until April to complete my BC, what about you?

Anyway, thanks for responding and I love your pic on your Fotki, great smile!
Originally Posted by cysyca

Oh, thanks Cysca! I actually BC'd on October 12th (exactly one year since my last perm). I'm wearing little twists right now that I put in with the KCCC and let me tell you, my twists are hanging REALLY nicely (in my Fotki, my twists are sans KCCC and they didn't hang enough without it)! I'm really happy about that and will continue to use up this jar I have on hand for all of my twists.

I'm making sure to protective style for the next year because I want my hair back to its regular length. Some people can't go a year, but for me it's not a problem. I go to school so the less maintenance my hair needs, the better!

You know, I washed my hair today and I used the sponge method in the sink with conditioner (because I ran out of ACV). It keeps my braids from fuzzing up too much, which is good, and I lose a lot less hair that way.

They detail it on the Crown and Glory Method website (check it out if you haven't already!). You must be so excited for your big chop! I'm telling you, you're going to feel fierce and free! It's really an amazing feeling!
Last Relaxer: October 2007
Transition Period: 1 Year
Final Big Chop: October 2008
Hair Type: 4A/3B/3A/4B WTH?



OMG, it be so liberating for you to finally cut off your relaxed hair. I really look forward to my first BC but I'm a little afraid because this will be the first time I"ll reveal my natural hair. I'm going to check out the Crown & Glory Method and once again, thank you, and I know you look great!
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