Tyra Banks Show - Good Hair

So I finally pulled up the recent Tyra Banks show about good hair on Youtube. It actually pained me to watch some parts of it. But I pushed through it. The worst part was watching the little girls talk about how they didn't like their own hair. The mother of one of the girls even admitted to having dated someone who wasn't black so that she could produce a biracial child who wouldn't have "bad hair" and be made fun of! Another woman admitted to relaxing her 3 year old daughter's hair and yet another mother admitted to relaxing AND putting weave into her 8 year old's hair...GEEZ!!!!


There is also a brief heated discussion between 3 ladies (that I wish Tyra had allowed to go on for longer) regarding how damaging chemical relaxers are to the hair. There were 2 ladies who was obviously misinformed about how damaging relaxers are and swore up and down that their hair was oh so healthy! Tyra could have done a great service by having an expert on to explain what a relaxer does to the hair.

I suppose I could go on and on about the show. Did anyone else see it?
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So I finally pulled up the recent Tyra Banks show about good hair on Youtube. It actually pained me to watch some parts of it. But I pushed through it. The worst part was watching the little girls talk about how they didn't like their own hair. The mother of one of the girls even admitted to having dated someone who wasn't black so that she could produce a biracial child who wouldn't have "bad hair" and be made fun of! Another woman admitted to relaxing her 3 year old daughter's hair and yet another mother admitted to relaxing AND putting weave into her 8 year old's hair...GEEZ!!!!


There is also a brief heated discussion between 3 ladies (that I wish Tyra had allowed to go on for longer) regarding how damaging chemical relaxers are to the hair. There were 2 ladies who was obviously misinformed about how damaging relaxers are and swore up and down that their hair was oh so healthy! Tyra could have done a great service by having an expert on to explain what a relaxer does to the hair.

I suppose I could go on and on about the show. Did anyone else see it?
Originally Posted by krj1908



I saw it and thought it was quite interesting. I think it may have encouraged me even more to go back to natural. I thought the part about the little wanting to wear her Hanna Montana wig all the time was sad.It just shows how much we are afraid of our natural beauty.
I understand because my whole life I was taught that nappy hair is bad and it is ugly. I really hate that I had a perm my whole life. My family is making fun of me for going natural. In my area, we are not taught that nappy is beautiful and embrace it. All of the beauticians I know laugh at me, too. So I do my own hair.

We should not do this to our little girls, people.
I understand because my whole life I was taught that nappy hair is bad and it is ugly. I really hate that I had a perm my whole life. My family is making fun of me for going natural. In my area, we are not taught that nappy is beautiful and embrace it. All of the beauticians I know laugh at me, too. So I do my own hair.

We should not do this to our little girls, people.
Originally Posted by strawberryangel83
I totally agree but I am glad that someone is trying to do something about it. In the caribbean relaxer is picking up like wild fire especially with the younger people. I only got my hair relaxed because beauticians didn't want to be bothered with natural hair. Thank God that people are getting educated that nappy hair and ethnic hair is beautiful. Thank God I'm getting educated because I grew with my dad and all he knew was to use a hot comb in my hair. Now I can't wait to go back natural.
I am glad to hear that you are getting to know your natural hair better. It's such a shame that a lot of stylists really don't know much about styling and caring for natural hair. It seems that many stylist know how to deal with relaxed hair...but not so much about natural hair.
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this is kinda the wrong thread but..what about millionaire match maker???? Patti whoever is TRAGICALLY misinformed
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this is kinda the wrong thread but..what about millionaire match maker???? Patti whoever is TRAGICALLY misinformed
Originally Posted by sarahb1396

What did Patti say?
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yea what did patti say? whatever she said, I am not surprised. That lady got issues
I just watched that Tyra show. That is the saddest thing I've ever seen. Tragic. Those poor little girls.

I keep telling anyone who will listen, many (not all of course) of people of color are allowing themselves to continue to be victims of colonialism. As women (and men) of color we need to learn to love ourselves and appreciate all things about us, skin color and hair texture included. Relaxing your hair is not the issue. It's the reasons why you relax. Some of us clearly have a long long way to go.
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I just watched all 5 parts on You Tube and it is crazy how people think that putting chemicals in your hair, or in your child's hair is good and not damaging at all.

I suffered through the hot comb and grease until 9th grade. But since I didn't really know how to take care of my hair, it stayed up in a bun most of the time.

Things settled out in college but I had those regular hair appointments for the relaxer. But since I was at the Naval Academy, I spent a lot of time swimming, so a lot of time not processing my hair unless really necessary.

At this point (I'll be 30 this year) I'm tired of wasting my time and damaging my hair for nothing.

I don't blame my mother for doing what she knew how to do back then (her hair grows in straight), but I do get a little frustrated because she has my younger sister on the every two weeks at the salon schedule and she's only 13. I do have issues with that. Really with anyone who is willing to duck other responsibilities in order to pay to sit at the salon for hours every two weeks for the sake of what, exactly?
Just watched the show. Sad to see the lil 3 year old getting a perm. But like the lady said, We the younger generation have to teach the older and our lil one's that its ok to be natural.
OMG. I need to go watch that. Perm for a 3 yo! Wow.
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I watched the show and the saddest part, to me, was not the fact that she gave her three year old a perm - maybe because I got my first relaxer at 4 - it was all the ill-aligned values. Yes my mom relaxed my hair early, but it was so she could manage it better. I was never made to feel like my hair was bad or that I was different or better than anyone because it was straightened.
A personal decision about your hair or child's hair should be no concern to anyone else. What I think we should be concerned about are the VALUES being passed on to the babies. Good/Bad hair ideas should not be perpetuated by parents - just as ideas about once race or class being better than another. Parents should be reinforcing that everyone is made different and we each are beautiful in the way that we are made. Such values instill confidence that will allow those girls to grow up and feel good enough about themselves no matter how they wear their hair or how others they may encounter wear theirs.
I think the Essence magazine winners were shining examples of this.
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The show really exposed so many things that greatly disturbed me as well. I do want to see Chris Rock's movie Good Hair whenever it comes out. I am sure it will make me even sadder than the Tyra Banks show when I see it!
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Sorry... I'm not a Tyra fan.

Her shows are way too sensational and over the top.

Did she take out her extentions and rock her fro?

Did she take out her extentions and rock her fro?
Originally Posted by Trinigirl

Lol, not quite, but she did have cornrows in.

Listening to those kids talk about hair was very sad. What's even sadder is that they are echoing what they've heard their parents say about hair. In that sense, it was an eye opener for me; the things that children learn at such an early age and the things that we are passing on to them.
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i agree with an earlier poster about generational issues. now that boxed perms are readily available, people are choosing to relax their young daughter's hair when any respectable beautician will say no until a certain age. i understand the time issue, but getting my hair done was a bonding experience. i enjoyed color coordinating my click clacks and barrettes with my outfit. besides the issues with good hair/bad hair that the parents are espousing, i'm also concerned about the message that "i don't have time to do your hair" sends to the young girls.

and about the girl with the ridiculously long hair. i really hope she doesn't wear her hair out to school like that. not because it's not pretty. but i think little girls should look like little girls and not little women. also, if she's being teased at school and begging to have her hair cut (i'm surprised she hasn't found a pair of scissors and hacked it off while at school) then why not put it into a ponytail and bun it. hair is an important part of our culture, but i think education is more important. and if that child can't reach her greatest potential because she's worried about other children's psychological issues, then that's a problem mom. stop boo hoo crying and do something!
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... i understand the time issue, but getting my hair done was a bonding experience. ... i'm also concerned about the message that "i don't have time to do your hair" sends to the young girls...
Originally Posted by curlymami

Sooo true. I remember my mom doing my hair when I was a kid. She also taught me how to roller set when I was 16. To this day I still roller set my hair old school.
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Sorry... I'm not a Tyra fan.

Her shows are way too sensational and over the top.

Did she take out her extentions and rock her fro?
Originally Posted by Trinigirl

I second that motion. I'm not into Tyra either. I find it appealing she did a show like this- seeing that there seems to be quite much synthetic about her-just my opinion tho'.
... i understand the time issue, but getting my hair done was a bonding experience. ... i'm also concerned about the message that "i don't have time to do your hair" sends to the young girls...
Originally Posted by curlymami

Sooo true. I remember my mom doing my hair when I was a kid. She also taught me how to roller set when I was 16. To this day I still roller set my hair old school.
Originally Posted by intransition...again

I totally agree that beauty time can be a bonding ritual between moms and their daughters but it's the message behind it - are we doing this because we are special and deserve to get pampered or because we HAVE to do this to look acceptable?

I was at the park the other day and observed the most disgusting episode. There was a mom playing with her two daughters. She was pushing them on the swings, laughing with them and even going down the slide. She and her kids all had natural hair. One girl had a beautiful afro and the other had long natural braids. Granted, it was obvious that the braids had been done a while ago and there was some frizz on top - okay, a lot of frizz but she still looked beautiful and angelic. The whole family was amazing.

Sitting on a bench were two women - one with obviously relaxed pink hair and the other with a weave. Their girls were playing on the swings and every time they came up to ask their moms to play, the moms shoved them away and said they were busy. Those girls had perfect little corn rows and braids. The two moms pointed at the natural mom and her kids and kept talking about what a bad mother she was to leave her kids like that and that the kids looked to' up and that they would never let their kids look like that.

It was so sad, what they saw as messy and "to' up", I saw as a happy family with beautiful natural healthy hair.

Sorry this was so long...my point was that bonding between mom and daughters can happen in many ways, at the salon, at the playground, etc...althought the two mean moms and their kids probably had lots of "hair bonding" time together, their interactions didn't seem positive to me.

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