Co wash vs. no poo

I'm currently 2 weeks in to CG, and I was wondering if co washing is enough to remove the products I use out of my hair. More specifically hair butters..?? Or will I have to bust out my no poo? I figured since I was using all natural products, co washing would be fine..but now I'm worried about build up.
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COwash, R/O and LIs: Tresemme Naturals, GF Pure Clean, or Sleek n Shine
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I'm currently 2 weeks in to CG, and I was wondering if co washing is enough to remove the products I use out of my hair. More specifically hair butters..?? Or will I have to bust out my no poo? I figured since I was using all natural products, co washing would be fine..but now I'm worried about build up.
Originally Posted by mocha_mom
Hello Hydration (based on your signature) contains cones. I think you'll need to shampoo that out?

I use hair butters and co-washing seems to be getting it out, but I've only been CG for about 5 weeks.
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Stylers: Afroveda's Totally Twisted Ginger Almond Butter and PUR Whipped Gelly
No Poo: L'oreal Evercreme cleansing conditioner, Deva Curl No Poo`
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I'm not sure if you'll need to use no-poo because I don't use butters in my hair, but I do use conditioner with cones and CO washing gets the job done for me no problem without any build-up and I henna regularly. I also use a clarifying conditioner, the V05 kiwi clarifying one and it works wonderfully for my hair.
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I don't use butters myself, so can't speak to that specifically. But if you get buildup, and would like an alternative to no poo, I've had great results doing a Baking Soda clarify and following with an ACV rinse when I get build up or mineral deposits from the local hard water.
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Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
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PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
I don't use butters myself, so can't speak to that specifically. But if you get buildup, and would like an alternative to no poo, I've had great results doing a Baking Soda clarify and following with an ACV rinse when I get build up or mineral deposits from the local hard water.
Originally Posted by Geek_Chic
I see this is apart of your regimen..how often should this be done?
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Stylers: Afroveda's Totally Twisted Ginger Almond Butter and PUR Whipped Gelly
No Poo: L'oreal Evercreme cleansing conditioner, Deva Curl No Poo`
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I do the ACV rinse every week or 2. The baking soda feels less gentle (but very effective at buildup removal!), so I mostly reserve it for when I feel I need some extra help or before I do a deep treatment to make sure there's no "gunk" blocking the good stuff from getting into my hair. I use Struttswife's recipes on Live Curly Live Free. They worked well for me without tweaking, but others find their hair won't tolerate one or the other, or they need to decrease the baking soda or ACV levels. The site recommends doing ACV no more than 1-2 times a month because it can be drying, but I've had no issues with doing it weekly.

By the way, if you do the baking soda, you have to follow up with the ACV because the soda opens the hair cuticle. Following with ACV closes it back down again.
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Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
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So adding baking soda to the hair opens the cuticle, and you need to do an ACV rinse to close it. However, could you skip the ACV rinse and go directly to a deep treatment? Would this have an adverse impact?
Use a sulfate free shampoo if you're worried about build up. You dont have to use sulfates to get rid of cones, mineral oil, etc. Coco bentaine is in sulfate free poo's and cleanse hair without stripping natural oils so your hair wont dry out.

Last edited by naturally yours; 02-08-2012 at 03:42 PM.
I've been shampoo free (co-wash only) since...January 4th. Wow! Over a month! I didn't realize that.

In that time I've used every product under the sun that doesn't contain non-water soluble cones (butters, oils, creams, custards, jams, jellys, etc)/. I read somewhere that you're not supposed to use products with -xanes while CG but I've done that too (Mixed Chicks DC). I've had 0 problems with build-up.

But that's me and my hair. I think you'll have to do trial and error to know what your hair can really handle.
So adding baking soda to the hair opens the cuticle, and you need to do an ACV rinse to close it. However, could you skip the ACV rinse and go directly to a deep treatment? Would this have an adverse impact?
Originally Posted by Raizal
Every head of hair is different, but I've done exactly that and had no issues.This past Saturday I did a baking soda clarification, then a deep protein treatment, ACV rinse, and conditioner. Happy hair when all was said and done.
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Summer Products /Routine:
Clarifying: ACV rinses, Suave Professional Men Deep Clean Peppermint
Low Poo: Renpure Luxurious Argan Oil
Co-washes: VO5 Kiwi Lime Squeeze or Strawberries & Cream
RO: VO5 KLS or S&C, Cure Care
LI (if needed): VO5 S&C, VO5 SC, Cure Care
Stylers: FSG, AIF,
Tresemme Flawless Curls Bouncy Curls gel
PT: IAGirl's (link) as needed
Using cones is kind of like putting a bandaid on a herpes sore. Ultimately cones dry the hair out and, more importantly, clog the pores. I'm worried about this because I used to have more hair. No one else notices this but I do. And because I do not wish to go bald, no cones for me. Of course when you're young your hair can take more and one might be thinking who cares what happens after 40 or later? Well men still look believe it or not and women are still pretty after that age.
I don't understand why you wouldn't just use the No-poo if you already have it and want to cleanse your hair...it is intended to be a frequent use product.
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To the best of my knowledge co wash IS no poo. CO=conditioner only, no-poo = no shampoo. No difference. Conditioner gets everything out of my hair no matter how heavy.

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Not sure I can completely agree with this simply due to formulation. Cleansing conditioners seem more cleansing to me (esp if it has coco betaine), more like a shampoo/conditioner hybrid without the lather. Just using conditioner isn't really cleansing on my hair.
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I have been doing ACV rinse 2 or 3 times a week simply because I can't get more than 2 day hair, if that. So far no drying but now I'm worried. The condish washing just seems to weight my hair down. Should I be using a shampoo? Oh yes I also have very porous hair (graying) due to dye.

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Last edited by valcave; 03-11-2012 at 06:56 AM.
I have been doing ACV rinse 2 or 3 times a week simply because I can't get more than 2 day hair, if that. So far no drying but now I'm worried. The condish washing just seems to weight my hair down. Should I be using a shampoo? Oh yes I also have very porous hair (graying) due to dye.

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Originally Posted by valcave
Have you tried a cleansing conditioner? I cannot straight co-wash because my scalp gets way too icky for conditioner only. But I could probably use cleansing conditioners without any need to clarify. The only reason that I use a weekly sulfate poo is because I found one with lots of protein that works well before my PT/DT.

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I love the cucumber aloe cleansing conditioner by Wen! And also the Paul Mitchell tea tree oil shampoo and conditioner mint the green one it works good

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I used to use Sally's version of WEN (Hair One) until it started burning my scalp. Turns out I'm super allergic to wheat protein. Now I use DevaCare Low Poo and Deva Care One Condition. I probably could switch to just using the One Condition, but I only use a very, very tiny amount of the low poo and only on my scalp. I've had the small bottle (12 oz?) for 3 months now and am not even 1/4 of the way through it. But my scalp has been a little itchy, so might stop using the low poo.
As mentioned before, you have to try things out and find what works for you. That's part of the fun! : )
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