help wanted: finicky hair hates most products.

i'm about to give up and go water only.

two weeks into the cg method and the only condish my hair likes is yes to carrots. but my nose can't stand the smell. plus it's too expensive to keep purchasing every week.

so far, i've learned my hair is low porosity and absolutely loathes protein. with the burning hate of a thousand suns.

and it hates anything with coconut something or other in the ingredients list. it hates natural gels (about to try flax seed gel for a final verdict). it loves herbal essences totally twisted gel, however. it hates the shea moisture line. it hates kinky curly. it hates suave naturals condishes (i've tried several). it hates giovanni products.

it tolerates tresemme naturals.

seeking any and all product recommendations for a good co-wash that won't leave my hair feeling like i've just used the harshest sulfate shampoo. bonus points for a new moisturizing condish to try.

conditions: must be something i can get on the ground. not willing to shell out loads of money on internet only products. my hair might hate them too and then i'll be mad at it and call it names.

thanks, fellow curlies!
Quick question... did you do a final wash with a sulfate shampoo before switching to CG? It might not be the products but a buildup giving you finicky hair.

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CG since 3/2012, Medium Density, Low Elasticity, Porosity (?)
3a/m/ii

Products loving my hair:
Co-Wash/LI/RO: DC One Condition
Gel: KCCC, BC Curl Enhancing Cream, DC AnGel

Moisture loving, oil and protein hating (though it tolerates some in products).
I've had the best luck with clarifying conditioners for co-washing. Suave has one (Daily Clarifying), and VO5 has two (Vanilla Mint Tea and Kiwi Lime).

Which Tresemme Naturals did you try? I found that the volume formula was an okay co-wash, but the moisturizing formula was a very good rinse out.

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3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
yes, i did a wash with an ammonium lauryl sulfate shampoo. but i'm thinking i'm still getting buildup. i co-wash every other day and use the same conditioner to condition (either tresemme naturals nourishing moisture or the yes to carrots). i've been leaving conditioner in my hair but am noticing a greasy film after it dries.

last night, i rinsed out the conditioner and applied what i thought was a lighter leave-in (KCKT) and a minute amount of olive oil; no gel. feels gross, now that it's dry.

may have to add a low-poo to my routine and/or stop leaving in conditioner. or do more deep conditioning treatments. the shea moisture masque made my hair drier. tried a honey/olive oil concoction that worked well.

i'll have to try the clarifying conditioner. thanks!

always thought i had to slather on product because my hair is coarse and thick. guess not. this trial and error really, really, really sucks.
Agreed! Trial and error really does suck. A week into CG and I tried a protein treatment followed by oil for moisturizing. My hair HATES both oil and protein. Oh well, live and learn. At least it only looked like straw for a few days!

For a leave-in, I rinse the conditioner completely out, then apply a dime to quarter sized amount after i ring the water out. I don't get any of the leave in on my scalp because my roots love to be flat. Instead, I scrunch it into the ends.

Have you determined your hair's porosity, density, etc? I am bad at figuring these out, but I know my hair dislikes EVOO, Coconut Oil, and any protein. Sometimes, if you can figure out what your hair hates, it doesn't really matter.

I'd try adding one product at a time and see how your hair responds - there might be an ingredient that it's not liking. Also, when you do co-wash, make sure you really massage your scalp very very throughly. Someone said to wash it until your hands get tired. I started doing that and haven't had any problems with buildup. I've stopped the No-Poo entirely after revising how much I wash. It usually takes me about 5-10 minutes, but it's so worth it. It's the friction that gets the gunk out, not the chemicals. You can also use the condish to scrub the ends like you would with a poo, just be sure to detangle well and get it all out before adding a RO and LI.
CG since 3/2012, Medium Density, Low Elasticity, Porosity (?)
3a/m/ii

Products loving my hair:
Co-Wash/LI/RO: DC One Condition
Gel: KCCC, BC Curl Enhancing Cream, DC AnGel

Moisture loving, oil and protein hating (though it tolerates some in products).
I've had the best luck with clarifying conditioners for co-washing. Suave has one (Daily Clarifying), and VO5 has two (Vanilla Mint Tea and Kiwi Lime).
Originally Posted by Corrina777
i want to seriously thank you for this suggestion. my hair (and scalp) love, loves the suave naturals daily clarifying conditioner.

trying to follow the curly girl handbook to the letter but my hair does not like having conditioner left in. i think it believes it's wavy instead of the thick, coarse, curly tangled mess it truly is.

right now i'm unsure if my hair doesn't like protein or just needs moisture more.

my hair is also very low porosity. extremely difficult to get it saturated with water or product. and takes days to dry if left on its own. i diffuse.

going to concentrate on moisturizing my curls now that i have a good co-wash. i like the tresemme naturals as a RO and the honey/olive oil as a DC. i'll try adding back a little of the conditioner as a leave-in and see how that goes.

thanks for the tips, ladies!
I've had the best luck with clarifying conditioners for co-washing. Suave has one (Daily Clarifying), and VO5 has two (Vanilla Mint Tea and Kiwi Lime).
Originally Posted by Corrina777


i want to seriously thank you for this suggestion. my hair (and scalp) love, loves the suave naturals daily clarifying conditioner.



trying to follow the curly girl handbook to the letter but my hair does not like having conditioner left in. i think it believes it's wavy instead of the thick, coarse, curly tangled mess it truly is.



right now i'm unsure if my hair doesn't like protein or just needs moisture more.



my hair is also very low porosity. extremely difficult to get it saturated with water or product. and takes days to dry if left on its own. i diffuse.



going to concentrate on moisturizing my curls now that i have a good co-wash. i like the tresemme naturals as a RO and the honey/olive oil as a DC. i'll try adding back a little of the conditioner as a leave-in and see how that goes.



thanks for the tips, ladies!
Originally Posted by monipearl

I'm so glad the clarifying conditioner is working!

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3a/f/iii
Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
the longer i delve into this process, the more i'm learning about my hair. it's like a freaking science experiment!

if i have to absolutely classify my hair type: 3c-4b/mc/iii; high density; low porosity; normal elasticity.

having said that, my hair reacts to products like a wavy. it doesn't like being weighed down. i've had horrible hair days with heavy, oily/buttery products. the other day when i only left in a light conditioner was the best hair day i've ever had. my hair was bouncy and springy.

that day i also had the most compliments. someone even asked how i made my hair do that. they thought it was a rollerset. (someday i'll learn how to post photos...)

and apparently i need a balance between protein and moisture. doing a protein treatment followed by deep conditioning made my hair fall in love. guess i'll have to cultivate that love affair.

this site is a wealth of information and support. a million and one thanks.

off i go to the real lab... (i'm a lab techie)

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