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Old 09-29-2008, 01:11 PM   #21
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Where can I get a no-poo shampoo my friend told me about. Don't know the name but I know there is one?

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Old 09-29-2008, 01:11 PM   #22
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Where can I get a no-poo shampoo my friend told me about. Don't know the name but I know there is one?

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:23 PM   #23
 
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you can get it right here. its a deva product. or do a seach for deva curl. it's also a ulta. good luck!
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:41 AM   #24
 
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OK... just hoping to get someone's attention.

Though I've been here for many months now, I actually re-read the no-poo sticky because someone on another thread had mentioned that going CG meant no shampoo at all.

From my understanding, it's because of the surfectants in the shampoos. Does that include non-sulfate shampoos?

I'm currently using an organic, non-sulfate shampoo because though my 3C curls are dry, my scalp is oily. (I have a bad case of dandruff or "chronic seborrheic dermatitis" as my dermatologist called it.) This shampoo has helped my scalp, and I feel that my hair is still quite healthy.

So... is this CG? Is it modified CG? Am I going against the CG bible and thus deemed a curly heretic?
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OK... just hoping to get someone's attention.

Though I've been here for many months now, I actually re-read the no-poo sticky because someone on another thread had mentioned that going CG meant no shampoo at all.

From my understanding, it's because of the surfectants in the shampoos. Does that include non-sulfate shampoos?

I'm currently using an organic, non-sulfate shampoo because though my 3C curls are dry, my scalp is oily. (I have a bad case of dandruff or "chronic seborrheic dermatitis" as my dermatologist called it.) This shampoo has helped my scalp, and I feel that my hair is still quite healthy.

So... is this CG? Is it modified CG? Am I going against the CG bible and thus deemed a curly heretic?
It depends on the ingredients, really. A shampoo without 'sulfates' but with other detergents would be considered a "low poo" and you'd be modified CG. I'm GUESSING that's where your product falls, but it's hard to say for certain without knowing the ingredients.

That being said, if you find something that works for you, go with it. Don't worry about the labels
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OK.... I took a closer look at the ingredients in my Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Shampoo. They're mostly plants, but note the items in BOLD. They're not sulfates, just coconut-derived cleansers.

Purified Water, Aqueous Herbal Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra* (licorice) Root, Tussilago Farfara+ (coltsfoot) Leaf, Achillea Millefolium* (yarrow), Salix Alba+ (willow), Tabebuia Impetiginosa+ (pau díarco), Arctium Lappa* (burdock) Root, Berberis Aquifolium (mahonia), Calendula Officinalis* (calendula), Equisetum Arvense* (horsetail), Urtica Dioica* (nettles)), Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate (coconut derived surfactant), Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine (coconut derived surfactant), Sucrose Cocoate (sugar/coconut emulsifier), Coco-Betaine (coconut derived surfactant), Leptospermum Petersonii (lemon tea tree), Melaleuca Alternifolia* (tea tree), Lavandula Angustifolia* (lavender), Pelargonium Capitatum* (geranium), Rosemarinus Officinalis* (rosemary), Oryzanol (rice extract), Hydrolysed Soy Protein (hair strengthener), Glycerine (vegetable source), Panthenol (pro vitamin B5), Sodium Chloride (solar sea salt), Macadamia* Ternifolia (macadamia) Seed Oil, Parfum (fragrance of plant origin), Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin C ester), Aloe Barbadensis* (aloe vera) Leaf, Mixed Tocopherols (plant derived GMO-free vitamin E).
* Organic + Wildcrafted

So... I guess... that would make me a modified CGer.
For those who feel the need to shampoo, I highly recommend this stuff!


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yep, you'd be mod

LOTS of people really like the coco-betaine stuff. I've actually convinced my mother to use a shampoo with that instead of SLS, and used it once... feels quite nice
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:04 PM   #28
 
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Ready to begin CG tonight. I'm so excited!

I'm all set to throw out my shampoo bottles. But do I need to shampoo one last time before I start CG?
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:28 PM   #29
 
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Yes, with a shampoo that contains sulfates but not any "cones". Any of the Sauve Naturals is good to use. Welcome to CG!
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Thankyou so, so much!
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Old 01-26-2009, 07:24 AM   #31
 
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1. I am very intrigued by this no-poo business, I am excited about testing it out to free my inner curls, however I have a couple of questions. I understand that with this method, you are to clean your hair with a conditioner without sulfates, but do many conditioners have sulfates? I am using Pantene pro-v, but the problem is, I can't read the back of the bottle because it is in Korean as I am living here in Korea teaching English. Can anyone tell me if this conditioner is ok to use? And if it isn't what are some big brand names that are ok.
2. I read in a couple of places that with this method you only need to wash your hair with conditioner once to two weeks. The other days of the week, are you wetting your hair and conditioning?
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Old 01-26-2009, 07:27 AM   #32
 
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Why do we need to shampoo one last time before starting no-poo? I am confused by this...
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:29 AM   #33
 
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I always thought my hair would never look like half the pics on this site... but i got motivated after seeing so much lovely locks that i FINALLY DECIDED TO TRY IT!!! I ordered the DevaCurl Try me Bag (or whatever its called), and I'm waiting for it to arrive in the mail! IM SO EXCITED!!! I hope my 2c on top with 3b under hair reacts positively to this because my whole life, my issue has always been my hair! So i got the DevaCurl line, i also got some KCCC (kinky curly custard cream), CK (curl keeper) and some AG: Recoil. Wish me luck!

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Why do we need to shampoo one last time before starting no-poo? I am confused by this...
You use shampoo with sulfates in order to rid your hair of any silicones and product build-up. You must use a shampoo that contains sulfates but is free of silicones (anything ending in "xane and cone"). Here is a great website to check out: http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/cones.html

Has information about silicone and sulfate free products. Unfortunately, products that are available in the US aren't always the same in other countries. So I can't say if the product you are using are CG friendly or not in Korea. Pantene for the most part is not CG friendly is the US. So I would assume the same for Korea. Products like Sauve Naturals, VO5 and White Rain are CG friendly. Sauve is a great CG starter shampoo. These conditioners aren't as moisturizing as say Loreal Pro-vive nutrigloss. But great as a co-wash. Hope this helps. We're all here to help...keep asking!
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I am confused. After a co-wash you use a different conditioner, right? So what about the next day in the shower, you don't co-wash, but do you still use the second conditioner from the day before to untangle your hair? Cause there is no hope for me to untangle my curls with just a water rinse. I am confused on whether I am doing this wrong or not.
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I am confused. After a co-wash you use a different conditioner, right? So what about the next day in the shower, you don't co-wash, but do you still use the second conditioner from the day before to untangle your hair? Cause there is no hope for me to untangle my curls with just a water rinse. I am confused on whether I am doing this wrong or not.

really i would think your hair would untangle, as it will gain oils from no sulfate. though you can consider purchasing a no silicon styler, like a slip conditioner, some are out there, these do not build up when they are cg.

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1. I am very intrigued by this no-poo business, I am excited about testing it out to free my inner curls, however I have a couple of questions. I understand that with this method, you are to clean your hair with a conditioner without sulfates, but do many conditioners have sulfates? I am using Pantene pro-v, but the problem is, I can't read the back of the bottle because it is in Korean as I am living here in Korea teaching English. Can anyone tell me if this conditioner is ok to use? And if it isn't what are some big brand names that are ok.
2. I read in a couple of places that with this method you only need to wash your hair with conditioner once to two weeks. The other days of the week, are you wetting your hair and conditioning?
Thanks for the help.
i should read up again but i already have a good start i don't want to retrace my steps. maybe someone can help. we can cowash as often as we like, but i wouldn't consider a no sulfate poo being a mod cg. i think that is how we rid our hair of oils, by using the nopoo or some product similar.

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Hi I would like to start the no poo method but none of my styling product are coneless. My husband does have a gel that is and I have some old slick works? If you saw how many products I have you'd be amazed that none of them are cone free .
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I have straight, blonde hair and I color it regularly. It is very dry and in the winter my scalp itches like crazy (no dandruff though) So I guess my question is...Can I use Apple Cider Vinegar to "clarify" my hair and then use a conditioner? I use the TIGI line (Catwalk/Bed Head) and toss all the shampoo's I have in the garbage? If so, how often should I use the ACV?
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I use alot of hairspray in my hair or it won't cooperate with me...that is why I am asking about the ACV. I need something to take that stuff out. Any thoughts?
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Xenobia is your hair straight and thick? I don't see why you would have to use hairspray to control straight hair, so maybe you have wavy hair. I bet if you tried CG, your hair might get a lot wavier and healthier! ACVs aren't really for clarifying though; them along with lemon juice are used to restore the hair's pH. A better bet would be a non-sulfate shampoo. Giovanni Triple Tea Treat is a local one available at Ulta and Whole foods, but I'm sure there are tons more out there.

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