CO Washing: VO5 Conditioners

Warning: This is just one of my rants. If you don't wanna read my petty speech, please don't read.

Anyways, is it just me whose hair doesn't like VO5? It's just that everyone's hair seems to love VO5, and my hair is just like BLEH with it, limp, flat, dull, and a weaker curl pattern (and I already have barely enough). Not meaning to trash-talk vo5, I'm sure it works well for others. Anyways, my main reason for posting this and wasting everyone's time, is that maybe thos will help me learn more about what my hair likes and dislikes. I've tried VO5 Extra Body and Kiwi & Lime Clarifying Conditioner, but compared to my Aveda Rosemary Mint, my hair doesn't like it. Maybe I shouldn't base my experience with these conditioners to all VO5, but I've heard that most of them are basically made of the same ingredients. And I've tried to like VO5, I swear, and I do like it but my hair doesn't. Anyways, getting off topid, here's what I really want to ask whoever read this all the way:

What were your experiences with VO5 and how'd did you use it? Maybe I used it wrong, if possible.
What type of conditioners are these? Moisturizing? Protein?
Maybe my hair just doesn't like some of the ingredients of the type of conditioner.
What does corn oil have to do with it? I heard someone mentioning it being in it and I was wondering what the big deal was.
In general, maybe my hair doesn't like the conditioner thin and runny, VO5, but thick and creamy, like Aveda Rosemary Mint Conditioner.. Is that possible?
Thats it for now.. If you read this all the way, sorry for wasting your time with probably stupid questions.
I only use the V05 Moisture Milks line. The shampoo and conditioner moisturize my hair well and leave it feeling soft and hydrated. I only use the clarifying conditioner when needed, not for every wash.

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Oh. I wanted to try the VO5 Strawberries and Cream Conditioner, which is part of the Moisture Milks right? But it ran out nearest store that has it, so I just settled for the Extra Body and Kiwi & Lime. Maybe I'll have better luck with the Moisture Milks, but for now I'm gonna have to wait 'til I find some..
i'm about to be in my 4th week of a mod cg (water soluble cones ok in my book) and every time i try to cowash with VO5 kiwi my hair just looks oily. low poo and condition and my hair is good for days.

However, when I was living at college i used the VO5 shampoo and conditioner in strawberry and cream I believe. I had fantastic waves with naked hair all semester. wondering if thats worth giving another go now. or at least changing my low poo. cause i really don't like the way the kiwi smells either. its like dumping perfume on my head.

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Ditto with the VO5 kiwi.. I figured it would be kind of drying since it's a clarifying conditioner but it didn't really leave my hair feeling clean, and it seemed like it stayed in my hair.. I tried rinsing it longer and just leaving it on shorter but it just didn't work for me. Maybe the moisture milk one..
I normally use the VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea for my co-wash. It's another clarifying formula. When I first started CG I tried co-washing and hated it in general. Once I figured out a good technique I started getting better results. I spend a good 2-3 minutes massaging my scalp with co-wash in (I also use a TON of conditioner for co-washing). I continue massaging my scalp as I rinse. This seemed to help significantly. But it's true that the same things don't work for everyone. For example, I absolutely hated Suave Coconut.

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Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
I haven't tried the Coconut one, either. I've been looking for VO5 and the nearest one I found that sells it is CVS and it's still pretty far..
I switched to VO5 a few months ago when I switched around my routine. I have fine thin hair and I found that a lot of conditioners (like Tresseme Naturals) weighed my hair down when I co-washed with it plus I wanted a ‘lighter’ conditioner cause I think it’s easier to work with. Anyways, I wanted to find a conditioner with stronger surfactants and VO5 fits the bill (the majority of their conditioners contain centrimonium chloride and stearalkonium chloride which are the strongest cleansing ingredients you can find in a conditioner).

VO5’s worked well for my hair. I’m actually surprised you found it made your hair limp, flat and dull because those are things I usually associate with heavy conditioners. I found the particular one I got (can’t remember which one at the moment) wasn’t particularly moisturizing (which is fine because I just put a LI in when I get out of the shower). When I use it I generally use about a palm full, and really work it around my scalp, than I rinse with warm water, put a little bit more in to smooth the hair (massaging the scalp tends to ‘ruffle’ my curls) than I rinse with cold water.

These conditioners are both moisturizing and protein (depending on which one you get) the ones with soy in them probably have less moisturizing ingredients than the other ones will (for more on protein and moisturizers check out http://thebeautybrains.com/2011/12/20/can-protein-conditioner-stop-mushy-hair/) I did read though (somewhere on thebeautybrains.com) that there really is no such thing as a ‘clarifying’ conditioner. The VO5 Kiwi Lime Clarifying Conditioner is simply named that cause it goes with the clarifying shampoo (which probably has very little to none moisturizing ingredients in it) so if you look at the ingredients the only difference might be it has more moisturizers than the other conditioners but it does not clean hair any better than any of the other VO5 conditioners. Just to clarify

I would suggest taking the Aveda Rosemary Mint Conditioner and comparing its ingredients with VO5 or, for that matter, any other type of conditioner and see what ingredients they have that are different. Maybe that way you can figure out what your hair likes? Maybe the Aveda conditioner has cones in it?
Vo5 conditioners are actually pretty different from each other. Some have protein, some don't. Kiwi is the only one with corn oil. You may have a different result with another vo5 conditioner.

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I normally use the VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea for my co-wash. It's another clarifying formula. When I first started CG I tried co-washing and hated it in general. Once I figured out a good technique I started getting better results. I spend a good 2-3 minutes massaging my scalp with co-wash in (I also use a TON of conditioner for co-washing). I continue massaging my scalp as I rinse. This seemed to help significantly. But it's true that the same things don't work for everyone. For example, I absolutely hated Suave Coconut.

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Originally Posted by Corrina777


What stores do you find the vanilla mint tea? I can never find that one.


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Colored
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Lo-Poo- Yes to Cucumbers
Co-wash- Yes to Cucumbers, As I Am Co-wash
RO-Yes to blueberries, GVPCB, CJ curl assurance conditioner
DT- CJ curl rehab
LI- As I Am leave in, KCKT

Style- Sauve Everlasting Sunshine
Misc- CJ Smoothing lotion
I normally use the VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea for my co-wash. It's another clarifying formula. When I first started CG I tried co-washing and hated it in general. Once I figured out a good technique I started getting better results. I spend a good 2-3 minutes massaging my scalp with co-wash in (I also use a TON of conditioner for co-washing). I continue massaging my scalp as I rinse. This seemed to help significantly. But it's true that the same things don't work for everyone. For example, I absolutely hated Suave Coconut.

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Originally Posted by Corrina777


What stores do you find the vanilla mint tea? I can never find that one.


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Originally Posted by greencup13

I find it at some of the grocery stores in my area. It's definitely less common than the Kiwi Lime, but I've found it in a few places.

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Modified CG since 11/5/11
CLEANSE: VO5 Vanilla Mint Tea Clarifying, DevaCare No-Poo, CHS Treatment Shampoo
RO: DevaCare One Condition, SS Caitlin's Conditioner, Mop Top Daily Conditioner
LI: SS Repairing Protein Treatment, CHS Silk Leave-In
STYLE: Re:Coil, Curl Keeper, Deva Ultra Defining Gel, Curls Rock Amplifier and Strong Hold Mousse, Sweet Curls Elixirs Okra Gel and Hard Hold Gel, SS Curl Enhancing Jelly and Firm Hold Gel
Thanks guys. And Aveda RM conditioner has no 'cones in it, by the way. I'll try comparing the ingredients later, thanks for the tip!

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