New CGer: My head has taken a trip to greaseball city!

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  • 1 Post By lirontocker

Hi everyone,

I'm new to CG (and to this forum - hi!) and have been experiencing some strange effects four weeks in.

I didn't make the transition to CG cold-turkey - I initially stopped using silicones and only then eventually transitioned to sulfate-free shampoos, after which I switched to no-poo. I've been silicone-free for about 3 months and no-poo for a month.

Fast forward to today, and I seem to be having a greaseball problem. I'm growing out a bleaching/dye job, and the lower 5/6 of my hair is actually doing quite well (less frizz, curls more defined), but the upper 1/6, which is actually my natural unprocessed hair, seems to be suffering from extreme greasiness:



If it makes any difference, Here's my routine (I do this every other day):
I initially co-washed with a cheaper, silicone-free conditioner and am now using Devacurl No-Poo. After cleansing, I alternate between Aubrey Organics GPB and Honeysuckle Rose conditioners, after which I scrunch with a T-shirt and scrunch in some KCKT, and diffuse-dry. That's basically it, aside for some lavender spritzes in the evening or for 2nd-day hair.

Is this actually greasiness, or too much conditioner? Do I need to start low-pooing with Coco-Betaine? Is this a transition period that'll work itself out? Am I asking too many questions? Have I had too much coffee?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hmm, based on your timeline you *should* be past the adjustment time, which would mean this is probably product-related. Could be too much conditioner, could be too much styling product (or a combo of both). I'm on the phone app so I can't see if you have hair properties listed in your signature (texture/width, porosity, etc), but many of the waives and curlies I know with finer textured hair cannot co-wash exclusively and rotate in low-poo as needed. The thing to keep in mind with CG is that every head of hair is different, so there really aren't any hard and fast rules (except the no sulfates or silicones, and many of us make exceptions there, as well). HTH!

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Last edited by claudine19; 03-26-2013 at 09:06 AM.
Hmm, based on your timeline you *should* be past the adjustment time, which would mean this is probably product-related. Could be too much conditioner, could be too much styling product (or a combo of both). I'm on the phone app so I can't see if you have hair properties listed in your signature (texture/width, porosity, etc), but many of the waives and curlies I know with finer textured hair cannot co-wash exclusively and rotate in low-poo as needed. The thing to keep in mind with CG is that every head of hair is different, so there really aren't any hard and fast rules (except the no sulfates or silicones, and many of us make exceptions there, as well). HTH!
Originally Posted by Corrina777
Thanks for your reply (that was quick!).

I haven't set up my signature yet, but my hair is 3A and super duper THICK. I'm sure you could make fishing lines out of individual strands of my hair, no joke.

I'm not sure of my porosity, the lower portion of my hair (the dry, bleached section) drinks up product like nobody's business. This is what is leading me to believe that my routine is doing well for more damaged sections of my hair, and my natural growth at the top of my head is suffering for it.
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I think your hair looks great.
Originally Posted by claudine19
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Thanks for your nice comments about my hair, it's gettin' there!
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Could be too much conditioner, could be too much styling product (or a combo of both)
Originally Posted by Corrina777
I forgot to mention - I basically never add any styling product to the top of my head - I just scrunch the KCKT in from the bottom. So I guess this is either conditioner build-up or actually scalp greasiness?
Based on your photo only, it looks like the top half of your hair looks healthy, not greasy! Is it possible that you're just not used to it not feeling damaged? I have t-zone combo skin so was paranoid about eliminating poos. So, I low poo 1-2x a week. I use the DevaCare low poo and LOVE it. When you apply your heavier conditioner, do you put it on your scalp too? How often are you using the deva no poo?
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Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
I've been using shampoos & conditioners that strip my hair's moisture . I'm a little nervous about co washing & using a sulfate free/low poo shampoo. I don't want the grease ball.😳
Based on your photo only, it looks like the top half of your hair looks healthy, not greasy! Is it possible that you're just not used to it not feeling damaged?
Originally Posted by chloe92us
Thanks for your reply! That is not entirely unlikely. I'm not used to having curls clump together on the top of my head so this was very strange to me.

I have t-zone combo skin so was paranoid about eliminating poos. So, I low poo 1-2x a week. I use the DevaCare low poo and LOVE it. When you apply your heavier conditioner, do you put it on your scalp too? How often are you using the deva no poo?
Originally Posted by chloe92us
I'm using Devacurl no-poo for every wash at the moment, so that'd be every other day. I apply heavier conditioner to the lengths and ends, trying to avoid the scalp directly - however it's probably inevitable that some does reach it, especially when I trickle-rinse before actually washing the conditioner out.

I've tried making myself a lemon co-wash conditioner by combining three parts thin silicone-free conditioner to one part lemon juice. I'll try that for my next wash (tomorrow) and will report back if the lemon helped to get rid of any buildup
3A/Corkicelli, dry/bleached/recovering, thick, porous.
I have very dense hair too. The quickest route from where I live to Greaseball City is to not get *diligent* while co-washing, using my finger pads to massage every... last... bit of scalp. And then massage again... all over... while rinsing. Otherwise the density hides pockets of goo that then work their way out in a few hours and leave just my roots lookin' funky.

It sounds laborious, but it really doesn't take me that much longer. I find it is much easier if I am flipped upside-down. I also use a lighter conditioner to co-wash, that leaves my hair feeling a bit less slippy, but it really cleans me well. My RO is richer.
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