Telogen Effluvium and hair loss

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I usually alternate. I like to cowash, but I have to lather up at least once a month.
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I got some suave Shea butter almond moisturizing shampoo. I washed with that yesterday and it smelled great my hair was shinny and had lots if body. Now today I just wet it conditioned was very gentle didn't even comb much. Then did my normal stuff...scrunching with mf towel it looks pretty good. I may try maybe cowashing once a week very gently and using shampoo every two weeks
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I have no idea what cowashing is, but I've been no-poo for a few years now and I have no dandruff. It was really bad before and I am happy to say I won't be using shampoos again. However, to get back to the OP's concerns, I had a similar event happen to me earlier this year. I suddenly lost a TON of hair and was really worried. I too, went to the derm and he told me the same thing. When I did some thinking it made sense that I had experienced a high level of stress about 2-3 months before my hair started shedding like mad.

One thing I have learned about stress and my hair, is if I want to keep my hair healthy I have to figure out a way to manage stress, or significantly reduce it. I also need to eat healthier. Your hair is like a health indicator.
I believe that about the stress, but I am the biggest worry wart there is....and by that token I should be completely bald by now. I stress more than anyone I know...I'm trying to calm down, I've recently gotten on anti anxiety medicine. I meditate a lot. So far I just haven't found anything g that will chill me out.
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I believe that about the stress, but I am the biggest worry wart there is....and by that token I should be completely bald by now. I stress more than anyone I know...I'm trying to calm down, I've recently gotten on anti anxiety medicine. I meditate a lot. So far I just haven't found anything g that will chill me out.
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
I am a massive stress-head, have taken meds in the past and really should be on them again.

Be sure you are getting a balanced diet, especially plenty of long chain omega-3s from oily fish, and plenty of magnesium from various seeds and cocoa powder. Also that you are doing daily physical activity, not simply occasional formal exercise. You probably know to avoid caffeine, sugar and refined or high glycaemic index carbs. These can make a huge difference over time.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I don't do too much caffeine. I normally exercise 3-4 times a week. I do take magnesium. Dr has me on Ativan. I think he started me out on a very low dosage to start and it doesn't do much...I may try to take two next time I need it.


I work for the government, and during this shut down...my friend was joking that if it didn't end soon or I'd be breathing into a paper bag. My friend was texting me regularly and would get worried when I didn't respond cause she knew how I was and was concerned. It's a mess.
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I don't do too much caffeine. I normally exercise 3-4 times a week. I do take magnesium. Dr has me on Ativan. I think he started me out on a very low dosage to start and it doesn't do much...I may try to take two next time I need it.


I work for the government, and during this shut down...my friend was joking that if it didn't end soon or I'd be breathing into a paper bag. My friend was texting me regularly and would get worried when I didn't respond cause she knew how I was and was concerned. It's a mess.
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
What type of mag and how much? You need a quality chelated form and work up to 5x your body weight every day. It takes time to replete your levels. I've been on 1000mg a day for well over a year and my rbc mag test (not the same test that your dr orders) is still low. Stress burns thru mag like crazy so you have to take in more than you burn.

Have you used aromatherapy? Eft aka tapping? Herbs?adrenal support? Need a lot of tools in your toolbox.
I don't do too much caffeine. I normally exercise 3-4 times a week. I do take magnesium. Dr has me on Ativan. I think he started me out on a very low dosage to start and it doesn't do much...I may try to take two next time I need it.

I work for the government, and during this shut down...my friend was joking that if it didn't end soon or I'd be breathing into a paper bag. My friend was texting me regularly and would get worried when I didn't respond cause she knew how I was and was concerned. It's a mess.
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
I agree be sure you are getting enough magnesium from real foods ideally only use the supplement as an insurance policy, you will be sweating it out with exercise. Personally I am caffeine sensitive, I really should not have any at all it basically puts the body into a state of stress and contributes to magnesium depletion.

Physical activity is not synonymous with formal exercise, be sure you are appropriately active each day (10,000 steps).

If the benzodiazepine doesn't hit the spot I highly recommend enquiring about a low dose beta blocker: no rebound anxiety, no risk of addiction, usually no drowsiness. Hence often used by students with exam nerves, I've had them for chronic anxiety bad enough for a constant tremor and nausea, my father for panic attacks. I distinctly remember the first time I took a dose, wow I felt human again and my boss noticed the difference immediately.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I try to eat a lot of spinach...that has magnesium...right? But otherwise I take a natures bounty supplement, 500 mg. Maybe I need more but I know that can cause diarrhea. I have been sedentary the past few weeks cause I had a growth removed from my thigh and couldn't exercise. Also then the shut down and I kinda holed up in my house trying to save gas money and stuff. I'm back to work now and my leg is just about healed so I'll be back in the gym Monday.
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http://public.fotki.com/curlygirl1978/

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I've been co-washing for over five years, and my superfine hair is thicker and healthier than ever. I did notice a profusion of shorter hairs near my scalp a couple of times, but had the impression then, and since that they were new growth, not breakage. I can't imagine how co-washing would cause breakage, even if you were doing it wrong and using your fingernails instead of the pads of your fingers to massage your scalp.
Peace,
Morgan

Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
CGing since July 2008
I think I might have been rubbing too hard, that coupled with my over conditioned hair may have caused some breakage
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I try to eat a lot of spinach...that has magnesium...right? But otherwise I take a natures bounty supplement, 500 mg. Maybe I need more but I know that can cause diarrhea. I have been sedentary the past few weeks cause I had a growth removed from my thigh and couldn't exercise. Also then the shut down and I kinda holed up in my house trying to save gas money and stuff. I'm back to work now and my leg is just about healed so I'll be back in the gym Monday.
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
Try to eat a variety of magnesium rich foods and use supplements as an insurance policy or 'top up'. From wholefoods you will get a balance of other micronutrients - these work synergisticially and in opposition both in terms of how they are absorbed and then utilised. If you are sweating out magnesium you are likely sweating out other minerals.

Magnesium particularly works with calcium (dairy, certain seeds, bones in canned oily fish) and vitamin D (oily fish, eggs, fortified dairy). And you should also consider long chain omega-3s (oily fish yet again, omega-enriched eggs) for stress/ depression/ anxiety - so the same few food groups are multifunctional.

You'd need to eat ~425g spinach to get the recommended daily amount of magnesium for an adult female, that is a MASSIVE amount of spinach. By contrast you need ~60g pumpkin seeds or ~100g chia seeds or ~65g cocoa powder.

Magnesium — Health Professional Fact Sheet
Vitamin D — Health Professional Fact Sheet
Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Calcium — Health Professional Fact Sheet

Foods highest in Magnesium
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/746870

HTH!
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Oh...ok. I do have chia seeds I can take and I eat egglands best eggs, which I think are fortified. I'll get some omegas too.
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http://public.fotki.com/curlygirl1978/

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I take vitamin d too
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http://public.fotki.com/curlygirl1978/

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I try to eat a lot of spinach...that has magnesium...right? But otherwise I take a natures bounty supplement, 500 mg. Maybe I need more but I know that can cause diarrhea. I have been sedentary the past few weeks cause I had a growth removed from my thigh and couldn't exercise. Also then the shut down and I kinda holed up in my house trying to save gas money and stuff. I'm back to work now and my leg is just about healed so I'll be back in the gym Monday.
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
It's near impossible to get enough magnesium thru diet alone as our food supply is so depleted. Nuts and seeds provide the most mag and arent as depleted as fruits/veggies.

keep in mind that you need 5 times your body weight.... if you weigh 100 lbs you need 500mg a day. We have to restore our depleted levels plus take enough for our daily needs. when you add additional stressors that deplete even more, you need more. Unfortunately you are taking a form of mag that is not absorbable. Mag oxide is 4% absorbable so you are getting a tiny dose. It's a great laxative but that's about it.
Medications, stress, lack of sleep, taking high doses of calcium and vit d etc also deplete levels. Anxiety is just 1 symptom of mag deficiency.

You need a quality form like magnesium malate or magnesium glycinate. Taking epsom salt baths help a little and using mag oil helps a lot. Mag oil is cheap too when you make it at home. 20$ buys almost 3 lbs and just 1 cup of flakes makes at least 12oz of mag oil.

It's impossible to take enough mag in 1 dose. You want to dose at least twice a day often more if you are very low. I try and dose at least 3 times a day and then use mag lotion and oil plus eat foods high in mag. you cant overdose if you have healthy kidneys. http://archive.aweber.com/drcarolyndean/BrrPg/h/Magnesium_Is_Not_Dangerous.htm
I would use up what you have but add more quality forms. I shop online and find great prices.

http://www.cheeseslave.com/are-you-s...um-deficiency/

www.gotmag.org is another great site

Last edited by crimsonshedemon; 10-20-2013 at 09:39 PM.
Wow...thanks a lot! I will increase what I take in supplements and my chia seed intake, I'm also gonna get some of that oil, and retry to eat more magnesium rich foods
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Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
Any brands that u recommend?
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http://public.fotki.com/curlygirl1978/

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
Any brands that u recommend?
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
I buy life flo magnesium chloride flakes from amazon or allstarhealth.com and make my own oil. Super cheap and easy! Very absorbable and no gi side effects.

I'm currently using Jigsaw Magnesium Malate. Buy from amazon for 30$ 240 tabs. I take 4 a day for 500mg and over 90% absorbability rate. It's sustained release so easier on the gut and contains B6 (p5p) which helps mag absorb into the cells.
At night, I take Doctor's Best Magnesium Chelate (it's a glycinate and lysinate chelate) 2-4 tabs (most my gut can tolerate) depending on how much I need. They are 100mg each about 80% absorbable according to the manufacturer.

I started ReMag a pico ionic form (very tiny molecules) a few months ago. It's pricier but I really need it. 100% absorbed on the cellular level at 300mg per capful.
You can buy a similar product on amazon not quite as strong but still good. Again no gi side effects.
If you can, it's a good idea to get a RBC magnesium test. It's 49$ and you can order it yourself. It's good to know where your levels are at- want 6.0+ not the current deficient range that most labs use.
This is covered by insurance if your dr will order it. Have to make sure it says rbc tho because most drs and even labs arent familiar with it. My lab had no idea and I ordered it thru requestatest
I'm definitely gonna get some mag oil too...I'm reading benefits and how it helps with hair loss psoriasis and arthritis
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http://public.fotki.com/curlygirl1978/

Back on Cones,so now my routine is,wash with Deva No-Poo every other day or so. Occasionally use 365 sulfate free,maybe use low sulfate shampoo mixed with conditioner once every two weeks are longer. I condition with Aussie Moist or HEHH. I style with a little GF TN,and finish up with tons of GN Pure Clean Smoothing Cream. No frizz...slippy, happy hair.
I'm definitely gonna get some mag oil too...I'm reading benefits and how it helps with hair loss psoriasis and arthritis
Originally Posted by GoddessCurls
Good stuff! Raises levels really well when used enough. Also raises dhea levels.

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