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Old 06-17-2013, 10:06 PM   #1
 
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Can anyone help me? I am trying very eagerly to go all CG with my hair products. It has been close to the one week marker as far as my transition goes. I wash my hair every 3rd day with Nature's Gate conditioner and threw out all my shampoo like the Curly Girl Handbook says. When I'm done, I put Shea Moisture curling soufflé gel in my wet curls and plop it. Every time my hair dries tho, it is sticky and greasy. I know the CG handbook says to only wash the conditioner out part way so that's what I've been doing, but holy cow...the greasy build up is nasty! I am new to this website so I don't know what to refer to my Curl type as here but I know on the CG handbook, I am a Botticelli curl. Help!!
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:29 PM   #2
 
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Welcome! Some people need to wash frequently whilst their scalp adjusts, and they get used to good technique, sometimes daily. Use loads of co-wash and build up a light lather.

Secondly which product are you only rinsing part way, your co-wash? You need to rinse that thoroughly with massage just as you would rinse out all your shampoo, some co-wash products will literally give you squeaky clean hair.

You don't mention a rinse out nor a leave in conditioner, it's the rinse out you are not supposed to wash out fully, tho some of us do prefer to do so.

It's as likely the Shea Moisture that is building up as your conditioner, that contains shea butter and coconut oil which can certainly give sticky and greasy build up if overused or on the wrong hair type. Did you choose your products based on your hair properties and dew points?
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Ok, I didn't know I needed a rinse out or a leave in...I don't know what those are lol. I only have been using conditioner (Nature's Gate). I can already tell you I definitely do not get a lather from conditioner...I didn't know conditioner made a lather? Anyway, the conditioner is what I do not wash out all the way because the book said not to. I probably read it wrong. Then after I rinse it out party, I get out, sprunch/plop hair with that special towel, put some gel in it, and wait for it to dry (I have mostly been going to bed with the special towel thing on my head so that it can dry as I sleep).
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Also, what are hair properties & dew points? And does co-wash just mean botanical conditioner?
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:13 AM   #5
 
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After you co wash you should rinse completely to get anything the co wash loosened out. Make sure you are scrubbing good to loosen the sebum. The first couple weeks can be hard so try washing more often until your scalp adjusts. After you rinse add more conditioner. This would be your rinse out. You can use the same one but some people like to use a different one. A leave in isn't a necessity if you are leaving most of yours in. If you feel you need more moisture you can scrunch more in before you add gel.
Give yourself time to adjust. It took me a good three weeks before mine started to look decent. Good luck.
Once you are comfortable with the process find out the rest of your properties. This can be really confusing! Read the stickies at the top of the forums and look up the live curly live free blog, it will help too. If all else fails you can order a hair analysis from them to help you pin down your properties.
http://livecurlylivefree.com/
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The gel might be an issue for you too. When I tried that one I found that if I used too much it made me feel sticky. Maybe try a different one. There are a lot of drug store brands you could use. I am really liking herbal essences set me up. It leaves me crunchy when it dries but I can scrunch it out easily. Another favorite around here is la looks sport, it is a very hard hold and was hard to scrunch out for me. But some love it!
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Oooh thank you!
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:38 PM   #8
 
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I don't have a build up because I use a sulfate free shampoo twice a month which keeps down the build up.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:02 PM   #9
 
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Ok, I didn't know I needed a rinse out or a leave in...I don't know what those are lol. I only have been using conditioner (Nature's Gate). I can already tell you I definitely do not get a lather from conditioner...I didn't know conditioner made a lather? Anyway, the conditioner is what I do not wash out all the way because the book said not to. I probably read it wrong. Then after I rinse it out party, I get out, sprunch/plop hair with that special towel, put some gel in it, and wait for it to dry (I have mostly been going to bed with the special towel thing on my head so that it can dry as I sleep).
Some conditioners can lightly lather with water plus agitation, it's the cationic surfactants AFAIK. It's not like mega bubbly like shampoo, but the conditioner stops feeling so slimy and feels like a soft foam, more like hair mousse or edible cream in a pressurised can. Put some conditioner in a small bottle add some water and shake, if you don't get a lather then a product is never going to on your head.

Really good information in the stickies on the Newbies board and the general haircare board about starting CG, should be hair properties and dew points covered. Also check out the main NC site, there are tons of articles covering everything hair related. The ones by 'curl chemist' Tonya McKay are particularly good. Maybe also read your book again, it is a lot to take in to begin with.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:19 PM   #10
 
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Thanks Firefox. I will check my new conditioner. I found an article that outlined the ingredients found in cleansers that can cleanse. But it doesn't hurt to check.
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Old 06-26-2013, 02:32 PM   #11
 
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Which NG conditioner are you using? From the ones I've tried I think they're a little thick for cowashing. Most use a "thinner" or "lighter" conditioner like Tresemme Naturals, Suave Naturals, some of the v05 ones. I would keep the NG one as a rinse-out (RO) only. The SheaMoisture may also be building up and weighing down in conjunction with the NG cowashing.
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Old 06-30-2013, 06:08 AM   #12
 
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I know that for some people, the SM souflee can cause a greasy but strange dry feeling. Maybe try a different styler?
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Old 06-30-2013, 07:33 AM   #13
 
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Dear the greasy hair is the result of you putting too much of the Shea Moisture Curling Souffle. Same thing happened to me. You only need very little and I mean no more than 1 tbsp worth on maybe shoulder length hair.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:03 PM   #14
 
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Try the Shea moisture curling smoothie. It's lighter & will rinse right out. I too have been battling a tad bit of greasiness. When I do get greasy, I know it's time to cowash.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #15
 
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My favorite gel is the Krystal Eco Styler gel. It doesn't leave your hair crunchy, but it still defines your curls and leaves them soft.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:22 PM   #16
 
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I like the Softee gel. It's a moisturizing gel & with the Shea moisture curl smoothie & milk it works like a charm. My hair holds moisture better doing that.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #17
 
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I think you may just be putting too many heavy products in your hair. It's easy to overdo things when you're first starting out. I'd look into using a lighter CO conditioner--try Suave or VO5 first, because they're cheap and very popular. I use Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle most of the time, and sometimes Tresemme Naturals Moisture if I feel like my hair needs it. Then I would experiment with an actual gel product rather than a cream gel. I love SM products, but the smoothie and souffle were much too heavy for my fine/medium 3a curls (Botticelli). You could try LA Looks Sport, which is cheap. I'm using KCCC (Kinky Curly Curling Custard) mixed with a little BRHG (Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee) for better hold, and had amazing curls yesterday and great second day hair today. I need the extra hold because we get so much wind here, but you may not.

The other thing is that it takes a while to learn technique. How much to use, how to use it, when to use it. Don't try too many different things at once, and note what works and what doesn't. I've been working on CG for almost two months and yesterday was the first time I got really good hair (bearing in mind that I had a curly cut a few weeks ago, and the stylist showed me what to do, lol). Everyone's hair is different, so you have to figure out what will work best for you.
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