What is the difference between using a clarifying conditioner and a vegan shampoo?

First off, I would like to say that this site is very helpful, but information is extremely sporadic. I say this because I feel like I post 20 questions a day on this forum but that's because info is so overwhelming if I try a self-hunt on this website.
That being said, I am extremely confused on why I need to have like 4 different conditioners. Why can't I just have a botanical conditioner without the cones and sulfate and then a botanical shampoo as well without all the chemicals/detergent? Or is that what a cleanser is? Is a cleanser and a clarifying conditioner the same thing?
It seems like everyone has a million different ways to do something. I understand this is not a one size fits all routine and I am willing to tweak whatever I need to, but I am literally dropping $30 a week on different hair products that I think follow the CG method, only to be debunked later by someone on this forum.
Soo...
If someone could try to explain what a clarifying conditoner and/or cleanser is and if a cleanser and clarifying conditioner are even the same thing and how I can find it/them at Target/Walmart/other random grocery or drug store...I would be so thankful! Thanks in advance!!
I know its confusing, but that's because so many users have their own technique and products they work with their hair type. You don't have to use multiple different conditioners. You can use a botanical shampoo and then a conditioner. I always state though to make sure there is an active agent in the shampoo or conditioner that will cleanse the hair and rid of build-up. An ingredient like coca betaine is a less harmful surfecant. It is all a matter of what your hair type responds to, ingredients wise.

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High Porosity, Fine, Thin Density, Low Elasticity
Co-wash, leave in, and gel: Alba botanica coconut cond., ogx mousse, &/or super wet look gel.
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Instead of dropping a lot of money blindly on different hair products, you should figure out your hair properties! You should be picking products based on ingredients that are good for your specific hair's needs.

Live Curly Live Free - Curly Hair Basics This is a good introduction. A well-worth investment of money is in the LCLF hair analysis, or the Komaza Care hair analysis, if you can't figure out your properties on your own.

Once you have those properties, you can start looking around the boards for members with similar properties, and see what they are using. Check their siggies!

There are basic rules to products for properties but aren't don't always work exactly the same. Here's some examples:

Fine hair: tends to like protein, tends to get weighed down easily, especially if thin AND fine. Needs lighter styling products, nothing too heavy on oils or butters.

Coarse hair: many coarse-haired curlies have problems with protein. Tends to need a lot of moisture.

Porous hair: does well with protein. Loses moisture easily so sealing is important

low-porosity hair: doesn't absorb oils very well (or in general doesn't absorb things very well.) loses less moisture. can like protein

And on and on.
2BC/f/II. fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

light moisture, hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

iherb discount code: CFN646
We have so many conditioners because we are all inflicted with this horrible disease called product-junkie ism. And, I'm warning you...it's very contagious.

Seriously, though- you have to decide how you want to "do" the method. If your preference is to regularly use shampoo, then like you said finding a gentle sulfate free shampoo is a good choice. And, yes, you can absolutely use one conditioner for rinse out and/or leave in or both. As you get more in tune with your hair, you may want to add a heavier conditioner, or one with more protein, or one with cleansing properties (coco betaine) and skip the shampoo occasionally or all the time...the list goes on. And that's how we all end up with so many products!
2C/ Coarse/ Normal porosity/ SW Florida/ Salt & Pepper
Cleanse: CJ Daily Fix, JC Cleansing Cream, TJ Tea Tree Condish
Condish: JC Too Shea, CJ Curl Rehab (both as RO & LI)
Stylers: UFD CM, CJ PP, JC Spiralicious, Darcy's Cream Gel & Cocoa bean whip
First off, I would like to say that this site is very helpful, but information is extremely sporadic. I say this because I feel like I post 20 questions a day on this forum but that's because info is so overwhelming if I try a self-hunt on this website.
That being said, I am extremely confused on why I need to have like 4 different conditioners. Why can't I just have a botanical conditioner without the cones and sulfate and then a botanical shampoo as well without all the chemicals/detergent? Or is that what a cleanser is? Is a cleanser and a clarifying conditioner the same thing?
It seems like everyone has a million different ways to do something. I understand this is not a one size fits all routine and I am willing to tweak whatever I need to, but I am literally dropping $30 a week on different hair products that I think follow the CG method, only to be debunked later by someone on this forum.
Soo...
If someone could try to explain what a clarifying conditoner and/or cleanser is and if a cleanser and clarifying conditioner are even the same thing and how I can find it/them at Target/Walmart/other random grocery or drug store...I would be so thankful! Thanks in advance!!
Originally Posted by randi.foor
Have you read the Curly Girl book and/ or the stickies on the newbies board and general haircare boards? You would be better learning the method from something close to the source not a version that has gone through Chinese Whispers and personal adaptation/ modification to end up in a thread here.

You don't need four conditioners, you need a cleansing product (sulphate free shampoo or cleansing conditioner/ co-wash) plus one further conditioner than you can use as a wash out and a leave in. You can use either your wash conditioner or your regular conditioner as the base for an intensive treatment too if you wish, just add coconut oil and honey or olive oil and aloe vera or whatever your preference is.

Clarifying conditioners and vegan shampoos are nothing to do with CG they are commercial marketing strategies. There are plenty of basic drugstore products that are Curly Girl friendly - conditioners for washing such as Suave Naturals or V05 or Tresemme Naturals, gels for styling such as Ecostyler or LA Looks Sport are common.

Start out with your hair properties, dew point/ humidity locally, then choose ingredients and products accordingly. I have colour treated porous hair so use coconut oil, ceramides, panthenol and hydrolysed protein as core ingredients in my routine, from trial and error I also like honey, aloe vera, propylene glycol and a few others.

Ingredients that are not Curly Girl friendly are sulphate surfactants (sodium lauryl sulphate, ammonium laureth sulphate, etc), silicones (suffix -cone, -conol, -xane). many polyquarterniums. Some also avoid butters because they can build up, especially on fine haired ladies.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect

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