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Old 07-08-2013, 12:32 PM   #1
 
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Hello everyone! This is more a question that anything, I guess, because I was poking around to find some information on Water Only washing (which very few 3cs/4s have even bothered trying) and a big issue (scary point) that everyone mentions is the fact that a clogged sebum follicle (because let's face it, water simply WILL NOT take care of that oil) will undoubtedly cause hair loss. Alot of WO-ers either washcloth or BBB to get the oils from the scalp to the ends, which I understand, it's the same with the CG method, the scalp needs some good hard manual labor to stay clean. Or the use of no-poo, BS/ACV, etc., etc., etc.

But my interest was way peaked when it occurred to me that the OCM method of face cleaning is pretty popular amongst clean and green advocates. Or the water only face washing (which I'm trying now, is working pretty well for me, only about a week and a half in) and the problem with faces is the accumulation of sebum in the pores, right?

So I was thinking, has anyone tried using oils in the hair to clean the hair? A little hot water, maybe olive oil (or something), a hard scrub, a rinse, and bam?
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:50 AM   #2
 
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I use the oil cleanse method on my face, and I love it. It's pretty easy to rinse the oil off of your face. It's hard to do that with your hair. I've put oils into my hair and rinsed with water, but the oil really won't come out well with only water. I have to use conditioner to get it out. I do water wash on occasion, and I like it. One of my guy friends water washes. I think he's been doing that for years...works for him. He's not a curly, though. He just has his own thoughts about shampoo.
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I think "oil washing" (which sounds oxymoronical, if you think about it) is a recipe for build-up. But hey, I could be wrong.
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All oily skin does not get comedones (blackheads/ whiteheads), they are related to skin cell shedding and irritation not simply sebum production. I'm also not aware of research linking blocked pores/ follicles with hair loss, certainly irritation and inflammation can.

OCM you need to remove the oil with a hot washcloth you don't just rinse. How would you do that to your hair? Also the washcloth removes dead skin so is lightly exfoliating, translate that to hair and you'd be stripping your hair of the protective cuticle, in other words damaging your hair. Living skin renews itself, hair being dead does not. Research suggests oleic acid in both sebum and many natural oils can be irritating and comedogenic.

Sometimes the benefit from these methods is not what you are doing but what you are not doing, ie. no longer using harsh and irritating chemicals. They also have the best chance of success when people are living a natural, healthy and balanced lifestyle: a nutrient dense, anti inflammatory wholefood diet means the least chance of problematic sebum (either in composition or amount).

You could more easily cleanse your hair and scalp with oils if you were to add an emulsifier like one of the polysorbates to your blend - but that is not fundamentally different from cleansing with shampoo or conditioner since all surfactants are emulsifiers.
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You could more easily cleanse your hair and scalp with oils if you were to add an emulsifier like one of the polysorbates to your blend - but that is not fundamentally different from cleansing with shampoo or conditioner since all surfactants are emulsifiers.
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I would not try OCM on my hair/scalp! Then again I wouldn't try it on my face either! Last time I decided to put argan oil on my face I had a huge breakout and derm told me no more oils... but that's another story.

Anyway, you're really best off with a light conditioner or cleansing conditioner.
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I would not try OCM on my hair/scalp! Then again I wouldn't try it on my face either! Last time I decided to put argan oil on my face I had a huge breakout and derm told me no more oils... but that's another story.

Anyway, you're really best off with a light conditioner or cleansing conditioner.
I suspect part of the problem *some* have with OCM and oiling the face in place of moisturising cream is the choice of oils, research suggests oleic acid is irritant and comedogenic for example and argan oil is a rich source. Others are over enthusiastic with the massage or hot cloth removal - those can cause irritation/ inflammation.

I use a cleansing lotion and rinse clean with water to get that 'fresh' feeling but if I did try OCM I would definitely avoid oleic acid, other small fatty acids and use a polysorbate emulsifier.
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this is a good thread, ive got a light oil mixture that i use a a growth stimulater. I always notice that my scalp stays cleaner and better then my hair after a few non wash days. i message my scalp with the oil mixture every second third day. its really relaxing and smells amazing! i dont get any build up or greasy hair with it. and i really do think it helps with my growth. i dont know if you would call it the OCM.

on another note with my oil mixture: my bf loves it when i message his scalp with it. He gets dendruff somtimes, though the oil really gets rid of it. if i dont do it for a few weeks then it cames back. Lately hes been getting ichy spots on his scalp that of cause hes broken open, ive used the oil twice and he said its not as ichy and feeling better.
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He gets dendruff somtimes, though the oil really gets rid of it. if i dont do it for a few weeks then it cames back. Lately hes been getting ichy spots on his scalp that of cause hes broken open, ive used the oil twice and he said its not as ichy and feeling better.
Be careful about oils and "treating" dandruff. Dandruff and SD are very different from dry scalp, and the relief he's getting from the oil massage can be temporary but actually worsening the underlying problem. He'd have to use an anti-fungal medicated shampoo for true dandruff or SD.

It's best to have the situation assessed by a dermatologist. She or he will be able to properly diagnose the condition and prescribe a solution! Good luck!
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