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Old 08-16-2013, 02:36 AM   #1
 
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Default HELP Finding the RIGHT Product

So I've decided to embrace my waves and start the CG method, but I'm kind of overwhelmed with information and could use some starting product recommendations.
I have type 2b, semi coarse, medium porosity, high density hair. It's also super damaged and frizzy right now because of bleaching.
So what would you guys recommend for hair like this? I need everything - from co-wash to styling products. I literally need everything.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:39 AM   #2
 
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You need to do protein treatments and deep conditioning treatments to get your hair back on track. It won't work 100% so you need to cut off the super damaged ends to promote growth and enhancing your natural curl pattern.

As for products, most people co-wash with suave naturals or vo5. A low poo for clarifying is a good idea, and my favorite clarifying shampoo is giovanni smooth as silk deep moisture shampoo. It's VERY cleansing, so be careful not to use too much or too often. Some popular conditioners are tresemme naturals, giovanni smooth as silk deep moisture conditioner, tigi bed head moisture maniac, GVP conditioning balm from sally's, and trader joe's nourish spa conditioner.

For starting out on stylers, I would recommend drug store brands because they're cheap and you can buy a bunch to try out without going bankrupt. The LA Looks gels are popular, especially nutra curl and sport. Another popular one is herbal essences totally twisted gel, and a lot of people love garnier fructis pure clean gel. If you prefer mousse, my cousin with wavy hair loves john frieda curl reviver mousse and aussie sprunch mousse. I haven't tried either myself. Hope this helps!
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Old 10-02-2013, 07:14 AM   #3
 
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Hair Breakage 101: Protein and Moisture - I find this article helpful when I get confused on whether or not I need moisture or protein. It's a good read.

Usually coarse hair doesn't do well with protein. Is it really coarse, or is it just damaged? Sorry to be gross, but coarse hair on the head is very similar to pubic hair.

Coconut oil would be helpful on your hair overnight or as a pre-poo. You need good conditioners, which I always look to see if it contains fatty alcohols and panthenol. Those are my two musts to buy a conditioner. I personally love V05 conditioners for co-washing. Stylers, I would recommend creamy-based moisturizers. You can search CurlMart for ideas, but you can find some good ones usually at Target if you're in the U.S.
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NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ Sevi Pumpkin Seed or Seabuckthorn Berry, YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, Komaza Aloe My Hair LI
PRE-POO/DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC, DC Light Defining Gel
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:17 AM   #4
 
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So I've decided to embrace my waves and start the CG method, but I'm kind of overwhelmed with information and could use some starting product recommendations.
I have type 2b, semi coarse, medium porosity, high density hair. It's also super damaged and frizzy right now because of bleaching.
So what would you guys recommend for hair like this? I need everything - from co-wash to styling products. I literally need everything.
Are you sure your hair is coarse, it doesn't just feel rough due to the damage and cuticle not laying flat? Ditto are you sure your hair is only medium porosity if very bleach damaged? That would be very unusual: the DIY tests for porosity have been debunked.
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Junk Science - Hair Porosity Tests / Float or Sink
Pedaheh's Hair Blog: GoosefootPrints Hair Analysis with My Analysis Results
Porosity and Curly Hair

Proven beneficial ingredients for bleach damaged hair include coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides, 18-MEA and panthenol. You should be cautious with protein if your hair is naturally coarse - you might want to try it in a light rinse out initially. Komaza Care use ceramides as do L'Oreal (labelled as 2-oleamido-1,3-octadecanediol), Scientific Essentials use 18-MEA but there is protein in there too. Panthenol is widely used so easy to find.
Mineral Oil Versus Coconut Oil: Which is better?
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Moisture Issue: Proteins and moisture levels!
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Size matters : Protein Conditioning (part 1 of 2)
Panthenol Hair Products
THE NATURAL HAVEN: Ceramides: Patching up Damaged Hair

My hair is colour treated so porous and I use most of the above ingredients, my hair generally does well with film formers - styling options including these include flaxseed gel or okra gel. You can DIY, adding xanthan gum for more hold, or purchase from Sweet Curls Elixirs on Etsy.

If you do have porous hair and/ or very high or low dews limit or avoid the major humectants (glycerin, propylene glycol, honey, possibly aloe). Contrary to popular belief damaged and porous hair doesn't need more water since it can take it up easily, it needs the right amount of water and the right ingredients to help it hold that. Like Sixelamy fatty alcohol rich conditioners work well for me, they are weak humectants (water loving) and really help clumping/ reduce frizz.
Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products

Lastly it is worth considering the pH of your products - ones at pH ~4.5 (acidic) will help the cuticle lay flat - bleach damaged hair has a lower 'happy place' than healthy virgin hair. Brands that list the pH include Komaza Care, Dermorganic, As I Am, Keracare, some others are listed here
http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/...ditioners.html
http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/...d-styling.html
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics

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