Dandruff vs Dry Scalp

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I feel your pain - I have it all over too, especially on my face and scalp. If you're not already avoiding sulfates, do. That's helped me as much as anything.

You might try adding a few drops of pure tea tree oil to your shampoo or co-washing conditioner when you wash your hair. If co-washing, I'd try putting some of the oil in the conditioner and massaging it into the most affected areas of your scalp (on dry hair) 15-20 minutes before you actually wash it, giving the tea tree oil more time to do its thing.

Or (don't think I do both) you can dissolve some plain, cheap aspirins in your regular shampoo so that you're getting some salicylic acid without harsh medicated shampoo.

Again, scrub the scalp well, be it with your finger tips or with a shampoo brush.

An apple cider vinegar rinse once a week can help the itch because it stabilizes the pH level - but no more often or it can be drying. One to two tbsp. vinegar to 1-2 c. water after you wash your hair. I pour mine on before my conditioner, and it doesn't leave any lingering smell at all.

I nearly always use about a half dollar's worth of either plain FOTE AVG or Aubrey Organics Moisture Maniac (aloe is its main ingredient, too) on my hair first thing out of the shower, and I also massage it into my scalp, which seems to sooth it some and add some light, non-greasy moisture. I used to swear by the AVG, but now more often than not, I use the AOMM - it has some other ingredients that also seem to agree with my scalp and hair. If I use leave-in, I add a little after all this.

Glycerin's not bad for your scalp, but it can be drying for your hair in winter when the dewpoint and humidity are low because it's a humectant and can draw moisture out of your hair when there's none in the atmosphere.

In my case, I find that I usually start getting itchy (and then can get broken, crusty,weepy places, too) after a few days. I have the best results when I either lo-poo or co-wash every 2-3 days, but I often stretch it longer than I should - and pay for it!

Use heat on your scalp as little as you can - I know, that's hard in cold weather, but keep it as low as you can.

Haven't needed to do it in a while, but I used to have some luck applying either Vitamin E gel or oil to my itchiest, scaliest areas in my hairline before bedtime. I usually had to wash the next morning after this, though.

Both my hair and scalp enjoy this:

www.komazahaircare.com/products/110/HoneyComb+Hair+Rejuvenator.html

Even though their products are targeted at African American hair, many other finer, looser-curled curlies love many of them, too. This one is my favorite of all their stuff I've tried - I try to use it once a week, massaging it into my scalp and hair and leaving it on for about an hour, usually with a little heat for about 10 minutes of that time.

Hope you find something here that helps!
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
So I read through all of the replies on this thread, but still need help.

My entire life I NEVER had a problem with dandruff, flakiness or dry scalp. Ever.
I have been doing CG Method for about a year now, and I just started experiencing what I assume is dry scalp/flakiness a few months ago. No itching, just insane amounts of flakes.

I only co-wash twice a week and don't think I can reduce it any more than that. I rinse thoroughly. I want to blame the weather... but even if that is the culprit, I don't know if I can deal with this each winter. It's EXCESSIVE! I've been sooo close to shampooing too many times this winter.

...any suggestions?
Nothing more than all the things I've already suggested.

Unless you're bound and determined to be strictly CG, why not shampoo? Many of us find we simply need to. If not that, you may just need to co-wash more than twice a week. If you're not itching, it sounds almost more like product build-up flaking than anything - be careful about overdoing it with styling products, especially on the scalp. However often you co-wash or low-poo, it's important for anyone to scrub their scalp well, especially if not using shampoo.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
So I read through all of the replies on this thread, but still need help.

My entire life I NEVER had a problem with dandruff, flakiness or dry scalp. Ever.
I have been doing CG Method for about a year now, and I just started experiencing what I assume is dry scalp/flakiness a few months ago. No itching, just insane amounts of flakes.

I only co-wash twice a week and don't think I can reduce it any more than that. I rinse thoroughly. I want to blame the weather... but even if that is the culprit, I don't know if I can deal with this each winter. It's EXCESSIVE! I've been sooo close to shampooing too many times this winter.

...any suggestions?
Originally Posted by krisisisipoo
Sounds like buildup, if you haven't had problems prior to this. Like auntnett says, try scrubbing your scalp more vigorously, or use a low-sulfate shampoo periodically.

As far as the rest of the thread goes, I have dry scalp/sebhorreic dermatitis, and someone recommended jojoba oil here on the boards. It's awesome! I put a little on my fingers and apply it to my scalp in the hairline. It's really helping with the dryness and flaking.
2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
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Hi, I'm new to the site, and just wanted to ask a terminology question--what is CO washing?
Washing your hair with conditioner (usually a cheap one like VO5 or Suave Naturals since it doesn't suds and can take a lot) rather than with shampoo.

Low-pooing is washing your hair with a sulfate-free shampoo.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
So I read through all of the replies on this thread, but still need help.

My entire life I NEVER had a problem with dandruff, flakiness or dry scalp. Ever.
I have been doing CG Method for about a year now, and I just started experiencing what I assume is dry scalp/flakiness a few months ago. No itching, just insane amounts of flakes.

I only co-wash twice a week and don't think I can reduce it any more than that. I rinse thoroughly. I want to blame the weather... but even if that is the culprit, I don't know if I can deal with this each winter. It's EXCESSIVE! I've been sooo close to shampooing too many times this winter.

...any suggestions?
Originally Posted by krisisisipoo
This thread is great. I've had dry skin (only on my scalp) ever since I started doing modified CG method a year and a half ago.

First, I BEGAN cg because my scalp was itching. I eliminated the chemical shampoos, and the itching went away. I still do not itch.

But, because I tend to my curls more, it seems my scalp was neglected. For ME, it is n.o.t. product buildup, as I don't use product. I've given this a ton of thought over the months, and I think there are 3 things: 1. my scalp needs stimulation FREQUENTLY. As in, every night. My haircutter said yesterday to comb it firmly. Yikes, I don't know what that will do to my curls, but I don't have to go down through my hair. Just the scalp. 2. I've read a lot about massaging with Jojoba oil and a few drops of tea tree essential oil. I also know that rosemary and nettle oil is great for the scalp too. Thanks for that link about Honeycombe Hair Rejuvenator, I think I'm going to get some.
3. I'm going to start an internal yeast cleanse. I've been taking fish oils, thinking that my diet was lacking something. Maybe it still is. But we eat very healthy and I drink plenty of alkaline water, so I know I'm not dehydrated.

It's hard, though. I see a lot of African American curlies complain about dry scalp, and that may be due in part to their thick hair preventing much scalp stimulation. But I'm just a 2b curly still have non-itchy but dry scalp.

And lastly, I think CONSISTENCY is going to be huge. I just started 3 days ago getting back into a hair routine, and I think it will take several weeks of diligent nightly massage to tell a difference.

Good luck! -oh, and about shampooing...I shampoo. I was doing it every day, simply because that was the only way it seemed to keep the scalp under control. But then I think it made my curls flat/straight. So I'm going to go to low-poo, with an occasional cowash and an occasional water wash. With LOTS OF massaging and oil stimulation. So....it's been my experience that even shampooing lots didn't clear it up.
Sulfate- and non-water-soluble silicone-free since 8/2008

Just about medium everything:
medium texture, low-medium porosity, medium density
Day One hair: 2c
Day Two hair: 2a
2c-3a in the summer time

Protein sensitive. Still looking forproducts...
used to have curls, now it's consistently just waves...

Last edited by avsfan; 04-28-2010 at 02:01 PM.
I think it's already been mentioned above, but if not, you might add an apple cider vinegar rinse once a week. More often can make it worse, but I find an occasional one helps - I usually don't remember to do one every week though.

Just massaging to stimulate the scalp, even without oil or anything, seems to help mine. My scalp and I've also been enjoying using a little flat shampoo brush to massage scalp and loosen debris (sorry if I'm repeating myself).
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Hi! I also have very dry itchy scalp that flakes. I've notice alot of comments on using the GTTT. For those looking where to find it, I order all of my organic hair products on Vitacost.com. I've also seen it at Walmart, Walgreens, & CVS. Hope this helps!
I just finished reading all of these threads and I will be going out to purchase GTTTT tomorrow! I've been struggling with curly-haired frizz and dry scalp for years now.
But because I am a newbie and starting from scratch...what is a good hair schedule to start with? Before now, I would shampoo AND condition every time I wash my hair (every other day or so) obviously with the wrong products. Starting fresh, what schedule should I follow using the GTTT shampoo and conditioning products?
Also, what are some good products to put on the hair while its damp after towel-drying. I have yet to find a product that helps with frizz. (I'm a little picky- I don't like the "wet" look on myself that comes with gels)
Any help is very much appreciated!!! Thanks
I've actually had a dry scalp, but when scratched no dandruff. I've also had dandruff, but not an itchy scalp. And, I've had a dry, itchy scalp with dandruff.

For me, if my scalp is itchy but no dandruff, then I need a tiny bit of oil massaged on my scalp. If I have dandruff, but no itchy scalp, then it's the product. If it's both, then I used too much product. At this point I usually dampen my hair, and rinse my scalp with water. The problem is gone.
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
This list is not exhaustive...
Winter Regimen
Pre-poo: Hempseed oil
Cowash: HE The Sleeker The Butter, Trader Joe's Moisture Conditioner
Shampoo/Clarifier:various
PT:Not for a while...
DT:
Smooth Sexy Hair Sulfate-Free Smoothing Conditioner
LI/Detangler: It's a 10!, CURLS Cashmere Curls leave-in
Stylers: various
Sealers: Tamanu oil, The Body Shop Wild Argan Solid Oil

*experimenting and loving it!


...This is so ridiculous...dandruff shampoo companies don't even advertise the symptoms correctly, so over half the people who use their products are doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing for their scalp. So insane!
Originally Posted by mrl234
You don't even know the half of it. Many of the ingredients that are shoved into products that you use every day are extremely unhealthy.
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Morrignu

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I have this issue too. I've got buildup going on that didn't seem to clean up with baking soda rinse, and I've got the dry itchy scalp. I totally agree that even water washing daily can be hard on the scalp, but that's my dilemma. I go to the gym daily and I do have a smelly scalp as it does sweat. I have to wet my hair because those curls are just flat the next day. Some questions and I hope someone can answer me
1) Is there anyway I can keep the scalp clean without having to water wash?? I still think if you massage but don't rinse, all that nastiness stays in the hair or do you think a water rinse wont' be too harsh for the scalp???
2)) If I water rinse daily, how do you make sure all your product is out before you go ahead and put more product in to restyle?? Obviously that gel that was in there has no strength with a water wash, but how do you know you won't get build up if it didn't all go bye-bye with the water rinse and then you apply more??
3)) Anyone use like a herb infusion for the scalp (I"M thinking honey my child) to just spritz the scalp per say after the gym and not do a water wash daily?? Although I still think you want to massage daily and that debris or loose stuff will stay in the scalp?? I just don't want my naturals oils to be taken off daily (been there, done that) and if water drys out the scalp, I don't want to even do that daily. And I want to know about reapplying product after water washes.
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
So I read through all of the replies on this thread, but still need help.

My entire life I NEVER had a problem with dandruff, flakiness or dry scalp. Ever.
I have been doing CG Method for about a year now, and I just started experiencing what I assume is dry scalp/flakiness a few months ago. No itching, just insane amounts of flakes.

I only co-wash twice a week and don't think I can reduce it any more than that. I rinse thoroughly. I want to blame the weather... but even if that is the culprit, I don't know if I can deal with this each winter. It's EXCESSIVE! I've been sooo close to shampooing too many times this winter.

...any suggestions?
Originally Posted by krisisisipoo
well i no a few natural things that might help ive tried a few things, i dont have any problems but i still do it cause when you keep a healthy scalp then you will have nice thick healthy regrowth.
herbs that can help: rosemary and ginger this can be in an oil, or as a rinse.
marshmallow root: is meant to help with dry ichy scalp and dandruff, it also gives a really nice shine and amazing slip. i use this quiet a bit.
Stinging nettle: ive just started using this as a growth stimulator, but ive been researching that its meant to help with scalp problems. there are many shampoos round that have it in, im thinking bout getting a sulfate + cone free nettle poo.
oils: argan and tea tree, really effective mixed together and messaged in the scalp, i do this to my bf's hair for his dandruff.
i have used all of these things, i dont have any scalp issues, i didnt before i started using it, but all of these are great growth stimulator, many natural things have a few benefits.
i would really be trying same of these, im pretty sure that it'll help clear that all up

my hair: 3c, high porosity, high density and coarse hair (i think i finally figured that all out)
my hair loves conditioner only styling!
my hair goal length is bra strap length when curly.

I also blog about my hair journey, please feel free to read and comment/ask questions http://www.naturallycurly.com/blogs/...air-blogs/2494
Lately I have been having dry scalp and it's driving me nuts. For a few days I was out of conditioner and my scalp was so itchy I was itching all the time.

I finally got more conditioner (I use suave naturals conditioner) and the itch went away for a few days but it's back again. I wash with refresh shampoo from trader joes every now and then. I thought I needed more shampoo but that didn't help. I tried co-washing my scalp and it didn't help. Should I not use shampoo/conditioner on my scalp for a few days? I do use a gel but I don't put it on my scalp at all so I don't think my hair has buildup.

GTTT sounds really nice but it's $7, about seven times the price of my normal conditioner...but I might end up trying.
I have the same exact problem. I wish there were a way to know is cowashing for my scalp or not, without having to try and get worse into this. I do lowpoo every other day and still have this dandruff/dry scalp. I don't have the answer, but I also wanted to try Giovanni TTT but now I hear others complaining that the new version sucks, I don't know. I'm so confused. It seems like most 2's dont' cowash, am I right??
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
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As far as the rest of the thread goes, I have dry scalp/sebhorreic dermatitis, and someone recommended jojoba oil here on the boards. It's awesome! I put a little on my fingers and apply it to my scalp in the hairline. It's really helping with the dryness and flaking.
Originally Posted by krisisisipoo
I have had seborrheic dermatitis since I was about 7 only in my scalp. It does not appear to be hygiene related and I have trouble linking it to weather or stress, either. I refuse to use a medicated shampoo (I don't 'poo at all!) or any prescription drugs. For now I am trying to control it by using natural products, no sulfates, and the brown sugar scrub and ACV once a week.

A lot of people mention using oils on their dry scalps (and a lot of curlies apply oils to their ends to seal them). I've just applied jojoba oil w a couple of drops of tea tree to problem areas on my scalp.

My main question is:
- Now is it necessary to co-wash? I'm assuming that it needs to be removed so there's not buildup later, and that water alone won't do the trick. And is co-washing sufficient or should I add something to the conditioner?

When do curlies with seb. dermatitis or other scalp issues apply the oils? For how long? Where does that fit in with your routine, including brown sugar scrubs and ACV rinses?

Thanks so much...I'm still figuring it all out.
3a, fine+med textures; med dens (ii); low porosity; nrml elasticity; frizz; protein sens.
CG since Sept '11

Products:
NO sulfates, cones, parabens
Co-wash- Desert Essences Frag Free
Condish- Acure Lemongrass or AO Blue Camomile
DT- Jessicurl
Styling- AOMM + KCCC or Alaffia BeautCurls Shea LI+KCCC
Extras- wkly ACV, br sug scrub for scalp issues
Techniques:
scrunch in prods to soaking wet hair (no combing), flour sack dry, clip roots, air dry, SOTC
Also, I would like to know about having to cowash if you apply oil to the scalp. I know many people who apply oil to their scalp after their wash, so that would go against the thought of having to wash the oil out. I also wonder, more low-poo or cowash for a flaky scalp with a bit of itch. Not sure, because if you don't get the conditioner off the scalp, your problem will be worse.


My big question is this, if you lowpoo, do you still think oiling the scalp beforehand would help or not?? Also, with a lowpoo is the massaging of the scalp as important as with a cowash, or does the lowpoo help you with that part of the cleaning task?
2c
Medium texture
Normal porosity
Normal elasticity
can get weighed down with lots of oils
Co-wash-trying giovanni wellness
Rinse out: Garnier Body Boost, GVP
Leave-in: none right now, maybe a touch of SM curling souffle
Curl enhancer: AOMM and KCCC
Gel: Kiss my face gel
DT:Jessicurl
Low Poo: abba pure and natural, Giovanni Wellness
working on: getting rid of frizz from the get-go
I have this issue too...I've got the dry itchy scalp...3)) Anyone use like a herb infusion for the scalp?
Originally Posted by mamaherrera
I have itchy scalp from time to time, more so in the winter, accompanied by flakes despite the fact that my scalp tends to be oily! Dandruff shampoos never help; tea tree to some extent, but not completely. The one thing that really helps is this:

4-5 drops rosemary oil
1/2 TBSP olive oil

Mix in hands and massage into scalp before bed. Cover pillow with towel to protect pillowcase. Wash out in a.m.

Use up to 4x per month.

The last time I did this was a few weeks ago. My scalp was SO itchy (and flaky), I used double the recipe (10 drops + 1T) to make sure my entire scalp was saturated. It felt SO much better when I woke up in the morning! Used a low poo to wash out all the oil. I'm currently using the MGA shampoo and this helps as well, but the rosemary/olive oil overnight treatment is my secret weapon.
hair type: 2B/3A
low poo: Elucence moisture; Elucence clarifying (after swimming)
condish: CJ smoothing; CJ argan; CJ repair me; CJ curl rehab; CJ strengthening (summer only)
winter/spring styling: CJ Beauticurls leave-in + Curly Kinks coil jam + Ouidad mongongo oil; or CJ leave-in + SpiralSolutions CEJ & FHG
summer/fall styling: CJ CCCC lite + CJ Curl Queen
http://members.fotki.com/melaniesusan/ pw = 3ahair
To relieve dandruff, wash your hair and scalp daily with shampoo that contains tea tree oil, and continue the treatment for four weeks. Pure tea tree oil may be purchased from many health food stores and added to your favorite shampoo. The recommended concentration is a 5 percent solution of oil in shampoo, or about one tsp. of oil in a 100 ml bottle. Alternatively, some products are available in pharmacies with tea tree oil already added.

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