Jul 22, 2013 - 4b with products, 4c when dry and frizzy! Hi, I'm a newly curly after 16 years of lovely locs. My hair is fine, thin and very tight (pipe cleaner size) zig zag coils with 90%+ shrinkage. After MUCH trial and error I keep coming back to wash and go using Curly Girl Method (not the modified versions-stretching my hair leads to frizz) with Tresemme naturals as pre poo and cowash then Kinky Curly Knot Today as leave in followed by KCCC as my gel. I get excellent frizz free curl definition and brilliant shine. Down side is that I do have to cowash at least every other day or I get flakes. Also, Kinky curly does NOT play well with other products. It seems to have to absorb into my hair to work best. Therefore, depending on the porosity of my hair I can get by with more or less in my experience. I also have to be careful mixing any other products including any oils that don't absorb. Otherwise they will cause KC to just sit on top and dry to a white finish, yech. I can use coconut oil the night before but that is about it. Bottom line. Once you figure out how to use this product line it performs best and most consistently.