Robert Vetica sat down to talk about his experience with hair and why you shouldn't be afraid of silicones.

A young Robert Vetica.

Robert Vetica, celebrity stylist for the likes of Jessica Simpson, Mila Kunis, Salma Hayek and Marion Cotillard, and who has been featured in Elle, New York Times Magazine and a host of other high fashion spreads, is the new brand ambassador for the beloved Moroccanoil hair care line.

He sat down with NaturallyCurly to talk about his experience with hair, how all stylists should know how to treat textured hair, why the Moroccanoil line contains silicones, and why you shouldn't be afraid of them.

Blunt, honest and open, Vetica is a man who has followed his passion from a young age, even when that passion wasn't one accepted by mainstream society. For us here at NaturallyCurly, his eye for beauty and drive to understand his passion from all angles and through all textures puts him on #teamnatural.

But don't take our word it. Take his.

Can you tell us a little bit about you and how you got to where you are now?

My passion for hairdressing started at my mother’s kitchen table when I was about 13. I started playing with her hair in the ‘60s. At that time women would go every Saturday and have their hair done, and then every Thursday to have a redo. I would sit around with them and do their hair and they were like, “Oh my god, you can actually do that!” I would do that every Thursday, but I wasn’t allowed to tell anybody because guys didn’t do hair.

Fast forward. I went to beauty school after a short stint at a musical conservatory, because I’m a classical pianist, and I ended up convincing them that this was my passion. That was back in 1975. I was just very passionate about it from the beginning. I think it was a combination of use and passion combined with boredom and opportunity that kept moving me forward around the globe. And I ended up in many places.

I went to school at Julliard, went to Europe, then ended up in Milan and stayed there for 10 years. I ended up at all the fashion shows and in the magazines like Vogue and Harper’s Bazaar, everything that you can think of in the fashion world.

I mean, if it were up to me and I were a woman, I would want the curl and the wave. There is just so much more you can do with it.

In 1994, I moved back to the states, to Los Angeles. I had already had a stint in New York and it just wasn’t for me. So I decided to go to L.A. and I came from a strong fashion background. I didn’t intend to get into any of this. I was 37 and I wanted to come to the states and start a life, because I had been travelling for 20 years. In anybody’s life, you go through cycles, and it was the end of a cycle for me. I was just ready for change.

So when I came here, it was just an off shot that celebrity and fashion collided. I started to do celebrities mostly because in the 90s, photographers were still responsible for hiring the hairdressers for their models. I met a lot of great photographers, and then met a lot of celebrities, and that has turned to what it is today. It was a lot of opportunity and timing and passion.

Here I am today having written a very successful hairdressing book for the consumer, and most recently, I have become the global ambassador for Moroccanoil, which lets me go around the world and share my experience, my strength, my hope and of course my continual relationship with hair. That is the most important thing.

People are very interested in what I do because they think that celebrities are different. They think that they aren’t real human beings when in fact, it is quite the opposite.

What about your experience with textured hair?

Well, you have every quality of hair that there is. Everybody has their own. I’m a hairdresser, so I have experience with all textures of hair.

I’m really glad that you said that. One of the things for women with textured hair is that it is often difficult to find a hairdresser who knows how to deal with waves, curls or coils without straightening them or providing relaxers. It's refreshing to hear you say, “I’m a stylist. I know how to deal with all types of hair.” That's the way it should be.

Of course. You would think.

I think one of the biggest problems that most hairdressers have, as far as texture, coloring, everything, is this fear of the unknown. There should be no fear attached to it because hair is hair. If you have an understanding of hair then you know, we all know, that if your hair is curly and you cut it wet and pull it straight, it is going to be shorter once it dries.

It’s funny because the age old saying that women with curly hair want straight hair and that women with straight hair want curly hair is true, but the better of the two is the woman with wavy, thick, curly, coarse hair. I mean, if it were up to me and I were a woman, I would want the curl and the wave. There is just so much more you can do with it.

Tell me a little bit about Moroccanoil and your involvement with them.

My relationship with any company that I work with is two fold. One is that the brand representative has to be someone who can sell the brand and two, I have to actually use the product. I have to believe in the product.

You have to remember something. Once hair grows out of the head, it is dead. There is nothing you can do to it to actually change the actual structure of hair. Besides, of course, a permanent in which you are reforming it.

About three years ago, their PR company sent me the oil and because I work in such a high profile area, it is difficult for me to try new product. I always have to try the new products blind. It took me a try to start working with it.

I started using it with all my clients who had thick, coarse, wavy and curly hair and I thought, “Oh, this is oil!”

I noticed that the oil itself had such an immediate affect on all hair types, but especially the wavy and curly and coarse hair types. So, I started to use this. It has this ability to attain moisture. For me, it is like a moisture magnet.

Moroccanoil’s hair care line, all their products, are very moisture defined. It is about retaining and adding moisture to the hair. You won’t find a lot of alcohol in their products. You are going to find a lot of vitamins, a lot of anti-oxidants, a lot of protein in their mask to restore the moisture balance to the hair.

Let’s talk a little bit more about their ingredients. Our community is very educated about hair care ingredients: no parabens, no sulfates, and to a large extent, no silicones.

You have to remember something. Once hair grows out of the head, it is dead. There is nothing you can do to it to change the actual structure of hair. Besides, of course, a perm in which you are reforming it.

As far as products are concerned, as a consumer, you can't go and buy something that will actually restore the health of your hair. You can, in reality, have a product like Moroccanoil, which can restore the physical appearance, feeling and touch of it. It isn’t going to actually restore it to its original form, as it grew out of your head, but it is going to restore the visible aspect of it.

As far as silicones are concerned, it is not the quantity of the ingredients. It is the quality of the ingredients. You can find pharmaceutical grade silicones where the quality is not as heavy and is more refined. It doesn’t leave the hair oily, and that is the difference between the Moroccan Oil Treatment, which has silicones in it, and others.

The pharmaceutical grade silicones are so refined that they won’t weigh the hair down. And, because of that definition alone, it absorbs into the first layer of the hair and doesn’t just sit on top of it.

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Hi again! I'm not completely CG. Sometimes silicones help my hair not to tangle, break and tear. I really do love Moroccanoil Intense Curl Cream (and I like the Curl Definer, too). However, when I do use it, I use Kinky Curly shampoo or CURLS Clarifying shampoo to wash it out. I do notice that my hair feels dryer, especially on the ends, when I use dimethicone regularly, but sometimes the dryness is worth it for the hair protection. I know Robert Vetica is a "genius" celebrity stylist and all, but talking about curly hair and chemicals seems a little sketchy coming from a person who definitely does not have curly hair(LOL). Vetica's the one who straightens Debra Messing's and Salma Hayek's hair, which makes me wonder if he understands those of us who try to love our curls. ;)

Oh okay, thanks for clearing the whole "What's in there shampoo?" trauma. I'm guessing you're CG, well then you would be concerned about build-up. But others like me are not. One thing's for sure though, this guy needs to realize that we don't think cones are bad for our hair (in fact it's just the opposite) but that it'll cause build up if you don't use harsh shampoos.

Oh - I was actually agreeing with you, not trying to tell you what works for you. I don't think silicones are evil...(I wasn't attempting to demonize silicones, in general.) My point was that these are nice products, but they do cause build-up on MY hair. I get frustrated when a product spokesperson insists their "unique" silicones can't possibly coat my hair. Maybe Moroccanoil's silicones are more "refined" but they're not water-soluble, which means a harsh cleanser is needed to keep them from building-up (for me, anyways). Moroccanoil's shampoo contains Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Sodium Lauryl Sulfoacetate,and Cocamide MEA, but it also contains Dimethicone (way up on the ingredients list), Amodimethicone, Cyclopentasilozane, Dimethiconol,and Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer. Seems more like an anti-frizz serum than a cleanser...I can feel the build-up just thinking about it. (On MY hair)

Well, I don't think cones are evil, after all, everyone's hair is different. I tend to do fine with both natural ingredients and cones. I like them, deal with it!:-P I'm just wondering how I'm supposed to get it out with their shampoos? If there are no sulfates, then there should be no cones. With that said and done, what's up wit this line?

If Mother Nature herself told me non-water-soluble 'cones were "good" for my hair, I'd beg to differ, and I'd show her empirical evidence to the contrary. That's not to say that Moroccanoil products aren't wonderful...because they certainly seem to be of the highest quality and get excellent results. I love the way my hair looks when I occasionally use the Curl Defining Creme or Intense Curl Creme. However, using one too many times causes me to start getting ropey, frizzy curls, and I have to use a heavy cleanser before my hair will start absorbing moisture again.Oddly, my hair was especially ropey and tangled when using the Moroccanoil Treatment too many times in a row. I've done enough trial and error with products to conclude reasonably that non-water-soluble silicones are the culprit for me.

Noni863, I was thinking the same thing. How is a person suppose to get the cones out of their hair??????????

Just one question, I'm kinda confused here. If their product lines have cones in them, but no sulfates, how are the shampoos expected to get the cones out? o_O