There are several threads on Living Proof if you use the Google Search function (too many to cut and paste here!). I like the Wave Shaping/Curl Defining Treatment for Thick/Coarse Hair as a styler on very high humidity/dew point days. I bought the $14/2oz. size and it's lasted several months (but I don't use it all the time. I've probably used it 4 or 5 times). I tried the shampoo/conditioner and didn't like it after 3 uses. HTH!
Knightess Firmus Aurum, Maid of the Mitten, Slayer of Dissertation Dragons in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
2b/medium; CG 5/20/09
Wash, co-wash, co: Queen Helene Royal Curl Shampoo / Conditioner, Kiehl's Amino Acid Shampoo / Conditioner, Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix,
Tigi MM
Stylers: Sally's Neutral Protein Filler as spray, Queen Helene Royal Curl Creme, LALSG
Techniques: Plop and Diffuse
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