I know you've tried it with a gel, but try it with another one. I can actually see how it might feel gunky under Joiwhip. Not because Joiwhip is gunky, but the combination of the two just seems like it could get that way. How long is your hair btw? Mine is mid-back, which is why I use as much as I do in that combo.
3a/2c f/mii. pics added 2/3/07