Thanks for all the input.. I may buy 1 more bottle of one condition and use it on special occasions. I have a mixture of 3a/3b curls. I have noticed when I use matrix biolage leave in tonic it makes it harder to detangle with the tresseme naturals the next day. I stopped using the tonic and its easier now. So I am going to keep experimenting with the cheaper brands until I find what works but I will be trying all the suggestions given above.. thanks..