Got to say I can't believe that's true, but if it is, it means Team Obama is in major danger. He absolutely can't afford to lose anyone in his base. At the same time I'm sorry but Obama can't afford for more than a second of his time to go to keeping young and left-wing voters. If he doesn't already have them he's already screwed. It's all about moving to the middle if he wants to win and gay marriage is waaay more than a symbolic issue for the middle.
Originally Posted by NorahBugg
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Okay, the people for whom gay marriage is more than a symbolic issue are those of us who might want to get one someday.

For him to abandon us in order to win reelection would be an awful move and I think I might even be more upset to think that was happening than to see Romney win. If we've got a Democrat as a President who won't do anything differently than any given Republican because he's trying to appease Congress and the electorate, what's the point?

Statistics have shown that support for marriage equality is increasing, rapidly and dramatically. Even if he loses in November, ultimately, that's where we're clearly headed, and he is doing the right thing by standing on the side of equality.
Originally Posted by amandamarie
In my opinion, gay marriage is more than a symbolic issue (it's an issue of equality so it's extremely important) which is why I put "symbolic" in quotes, to show that it's the author's opinion of how the Obama administration views the issue, not my opinion on the importance of the issue. Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm angry that he didn't come out in support of this earlier, but does so now as part of a political strategy. It leads me to believe that he does see this issue as symbolic more than righteous and urgent.

I have marched for marriage equality even though I won't get one and take issue with the institution of marriage. If it exists, people deserve equal access to it. There are benefits attached to marriage that everyone deserves.
Originally Posted by diaspora
Diaspora, I wasn't really sure what you meant by that comment, so thanks for clarifying, but I wasn't too concerned about it, because I've seen you express your views in other threads on this site. I was pointing to NorahBugg's comment that "gay marriage is waaay more than a symbolic issue for the middle."

This attitude bothers me simply because if I did marry a woman, my marriage would have no effect AT ALL on anyone's marriage but my own. I can't conceive of a reason other than pure bigotry that would cause someone to actively oppose marriage equality when it would not have any direct impact on their lives. Certainly, Catholic priests wouldn't suddenly be required to perform what they consider to be the sacrament of marriage for gay and lesbian couples. It isn't eroding the sanctity of Catholic marriages any more than keeping divorce legal or allowing people to get married in a courthouse is.
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