Sorry to board hog: Can any wavies w/ fine hair share favorite products/routines?

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I'm mostly 2C (I think) with fine, oily hair that gets easily overwhelmed by products and requires frequent washing. Right now, the pairing of curl enhancing gel with volume spray seems to be enough, but I'd love to be able to incorporate a leave-in (maybe just remnants of a rinse-out?) and experiment with other products. TIA!
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive

Last edited by la_ninon; 05-11-2017 at 07:36 PM.
Hi, we're sort of hair twins. My routine is very simple; after washing, I squeeze out the water (otherwise my curl gets pulled out and hair gets weighed down). Then I spray in Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold hairspray (an all natural hairspray that doesn't build up, and you don't need much of it). Then I diffuse. I actually do a scrunch of my hair after I start diffusing to break up the gel cast, as otherwise the diffuser fingers traumatize my hair. Also doing so gives me volume and much better curl. For a leave in, if I want one, I mix a little all natural conditioner with lots of water in a spray bottle and spray it in only after I start diffusing. That way it doesn't weigh down my hair. I find that all natural products tend not to build up as much, though that's not always true. I avoid products with butters and etc.

3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Thanks so much for your reply! I'm happy to find a hair twin and it sounds like I'm on the right track. Have you used Deva Curl One Condition Delight? I used the original formula years ago, before I had my son, when my hair was thick and coarse, but I expect it would be far too heavy for me now.
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Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive

Last edited by la_ninon; 05-11-2017 at 10:34 PM.
I have not. I did try some of their products but am definitely allergic to the chemical fragrance. With conditioner, I use either AO GPB or keratin fix (AO was sold to another company who now makes similar products I think, but I've yet to try them), John Masters Lavender and Avocado (expensive, I only use occasionally), or SS PT (now out of business). THere's also mineral fusion volumizing but I haven't used that in forever. All the aforementioned have protein, which fine hair on average tends to love, especially in the summer.

3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Thanks again! I have the Mineral Fusion and am curious about the John Masters. I'm not sure if my hair likes protein or not (see my other thread); earlier in the week my hair was soft and flat, and I thought it might be the result of too much protein, but it could equally have been too much moisture/product.
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
Some products I am enjoying now are the Jessicurl Gelebration Spray (just need a little bit, or my hair gets overly soft), Jessicurl Confident Coils (lightweight styler), As I Am leave-in (lightweight leave-in), Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold haispray, Intelligent Nutrients Volumizing Spray, and John Masters sea salt spray. I am protein sensitive and have to have mostly protein-free products.
Low poo: Intelligent Nutrients (IN) Harmonic; Oribe Cleansing Creme
RO: IN Harmonic
LI: As I Am; CJ Beauticurls; Jessicurl (JC) Gelebration Spray
Stylers: JC Confident Coils; IN Volumizing Spray; IN Perfect Hold Hairspray; John Masters Sea Mist; Bumble Bb. Gel
Normal- to low-porosity 2a/b baby-fine hair
The weird thing with my hair and protein is that I thought my hair had too much. But when I did a treatment it actually perked up and stopped getting all brittle. I think my hair is lower porosity, and when you're low po I think it can get tricky because you have to give something a long time to see if it works. When I put it on a short time my hair was overly stiff; a longer treatment, and it was great! This hair stuff is tricky, that's for sure.
Homemade sea salt sprays or epsom salt sprays are also awesome. If you boil the water first when the salt is in there they are less drying to the hair.

3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
The weird thing with my hair and protein is that I thought my hair had too much. But when I did a treatment it actually perked up and stopped getting all brittle. I think my hair is lower porosity, and when you're low po I think it can get tricky because you have to give something a long time to see if it works. When I put it on a short time my hair was overly stiff; a longer treatment, and it was great! This hair stuff is tricky, that's for sure.
Homemade sea salt sprays or epsom salt sprays are also awesome. If you boil the water first when the salt is in there they are less drying to the hair.

3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Currently, I use Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing shampoo and conditioner (rinse-out). I use about 4 times as much conditioner as shampoo for my 2C APL hair, no other stylers, and I'm pretty happy with this.

If you are interested in looking into a new shampoo, I think this is a great option for summer, and Alaffia is such a great company. The downside, is that it seems to be really hard to find these in retail stores anymore, so the only place I can find it now is iherb (linked above.)
Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

Looking for styling products and tools

iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order

Last edited by bomega; 05-12-2017 at 10:12 PM.
Thanks so much Therese, Naturecat, and Bomega!

Therese, I tried Jessicurl products years ago and had little luck, but my hair was much thicker/coarser then. Perhaps I should try again.

Naturecat, thanks for the feedback re. protein. Ugh, I don't know how I'm going to figure this out! Can the etsy hair typing that I've read about on the boards help? I would like to experiment with salt sprays, especially since my hair is on the oily side.

Bomega, thanks for the sharing the products you're having luck with. I've been using Alaffia's cleansing conditioner and it's quite nice--I'll look into the shampoo! It's a local company, so I have easy access to the line.

Thanks again all!
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
Hey La-ninon, I would reconsider naturecat's weather comment. I live near PDX and even though its still rainy and chilly, my hair has demanded I switch to summer fomulas.

Also, Alaffia in general is available at many natural food stores, but for some reason that Revitalizing formula is disappearing. In PDX, only one New Seasons was carrying it. All the Whole Foods stores that used to carry it have pulled it I guess bringing in the new Reishi line, so maybe call ahead to see if they have it. Even online retailers seem to be dropping it. (As a side note, you know Whole Foods has their no questions asked return policy, so its an easy way to try it if they have it.)
Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

Looking for styling products and tools

iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
Yes, the hair typing thing is helpful from what I've heard, though I've never done it. But ultimately it takes experimentation. There is fine hair that can get overloaded with protein or doesn't like certain types of protein, while there is some coarse hair that likes protein. That's why there is a several month learning curve on average before you get the hang of CG. Just try one thing at a time.

3A/f/i
Super baby fine hair, low porosity
Shampoos: SM Fruit Fusion (mostly), Avalon lemon (to clarify). Occasional aloe vera and glycerin to wash.
Stylers: Intelligent Nutrients Perfect Hold Hairspray
Treatments: Catnip tea, IA girl's PT, Fermented Rice Water, Catnip Tea, Amla tea, Irish Moss, SS PT
Thanks Bomega and Naturecat!

Bomega, that's interesting about the PNW weather. My hair was flat yesterday (and again today) in the mist, but seems to get springier in proper rain. I don't know all the Alaffia lines, but am liking the reishi conditioning wash. Unfortunately, I'm noticing tons of shedding with proper co-washing (this happened the last time I tried CG), so I won't be applying conditioner to my roots anymore, but I do like the extra moisture through the mid-lengths/ends.

Naturecat, thanks for the advice. I'm so patient and systematic when it comes to skincare--I will have to employ the same approach with my hair!
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive

Last edited by la_ninon; 05-15-2017 at 01:10 PM.
Our hair behaves very differently. I can't cowash, as it weighs my hair down too much. Also, those lo-poo you are using look pretty heavy duty on the sodium laureth sulfate. Giving up sulfates really helped my hair. But then I don't use any styling products (much less silicones), so I don't really need sulfates.
Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

Looking for styling products and tools

iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
Yeah, my scalp seems to need sulfates (genetic hair loss runs, unfortunately, in my maternal line and sudsy cleansers seem to help). Co-washing is still an experiment for me--given the frequent washing and SLS, I need moisture, but my hair is also easily overwhelmed.
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
<snip>(genetic hair loss runs, unfortunately, in my maternal line and sudsy cleansers seem to help). <snip>
Originally Posted by la_ninon
You *really* need to try the Alaffia revitaling shampoo and conditioner. I don't know if it's the coffee, African Black Soap, or the citrus mint scent, but the shampoo seems to really help my hair growth. The matching conditioner is moisturizing but light-weight.

Ok, I'll stop now. I promise.
Summer: Alaffia Coffee & Shea Revitalizing - Citrus Mint Shampoo and Conditioner
Winter: Alaffia Coconut & Shea Daily Hydrating - Lavender Coconut Shampoo and Conditioner

Fine, 2c, low porosity hair that I color using the 2-step henndigo with amla

Looking for styling products and tools

iHerb Code KQS149 for 5% off your order
No, don't stop! I'm totally going out and looking for that s&c
Lo Poo: MOP Hydrating Shampoo
Leave-Ins: CJ Beauticurls, Briogeo Rosarco Spray
Rinse-Outs: Intelligent Nutrients Harmonic Conditioner, Garnier Fructis Sleek & Shine
Stylers: L'Oreal Out of Bed Texturizer, Bumble & Bumble Bb. Gel, Kevin Murphy Easy Rider, Davines Volu Spray
Treatments: ACV rinse, CJ Curl Rehab, caffeine solution spray

2C-3A, fine, low-medium porosity, low-medium density, sensitive scalp, protein-sensitive
CURRENT ROUTINE:
I shampoo once a week and otherwise cowash every other day (I frequently wash my hair nowadays because I'm still experimenting on what works best for me). I also deep condition once to twice a week interchanging between a protein and a moisturizing one - when I have a full day to myself olive oil is my bestie😚😁.

While I'm fresh from the shower, I immediately put my leave in and scrunch a bit before plopping for 10-20 min. Since I use the LOC method, I then put a bit of olive oil after plopping followed by the cream. I scrunch the hell out of my hair to create more defined curls and then leave them alone til it's100% dry before I shake my roots a bit for some volume (I always air dry and don't use a diffuser because I like to say I'm allergic to heat tools now 😁lol)

PRODUCTS I CURRENTLY USE:
Human Nature Shampoo - sulfate free
Human Nature Conditioner - all-things-cone free (I learned my lesson lol)
Leave in: Marc Anthony Curl Defining Lotion or the conditioner I used if I'm lazy/out of my recent leave in product
Oil: Olive Oil
Cream: Marc Anthony Curl Envy Cream
For plopping: any cotton shirt
Fine 2c/3a here. Shampooing 2-3 times a week with Kinky Curly Come Clean is how I cut down on the grease. I then condition with Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus and leave in a pea sized amount on the mid-length to ends. I style with AG Recoil by scrunching in three dime size blobs throughout BSL-length hair. I plop for about 10-20 minutes and air dry or diffuse.


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Cherub 2c/3a Fii,porous
Wash:KC Come Clean
Condition/Leave-in:Devacurl Decadence
Styling:
KCCC,AG:Recoil,Arc Angel
Love:protein Hate:Garnier
Experiment:at-home color
Mod CG since 7/22/09
[QUOTE=1001waves;2384715]Fine 2c/3a here. Shampooing 2-3 times a week with Kinky Curly Come Clean is how I cut down on the grease. I then condition with Shea Moisture Coconut Hibiscus and leave in a pea sized amount on the mid-length to ends. I style with AG Recoil by scrunching in three dime size blobs throughout BSL-length hair. I plop for about 10-20 minutes and air dry or diffuse.

What has made the biggest difference in volume and antigrease is shampooing instead of co-washing, not using straight oils on my hair, and cutting down from five million stylers to one.


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Cherub 2c/3a Fii,porous
Wash:KC Come Clean
Condition/Leave-in:Devacurl Decadence
Styling:
KCCC,AG:Recoil,Arc Angel
Love:protein Hate:Garnier
Experiment:at-home color
Mod CG since 7/22/09

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