The woes of a Wavie.

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Chelle, right now I am using my sample of jessicurl aloeba as a leave in (i am waiting for my local health food store to order beauty without cruelty revitalizing leave in). I put a pea size dot of aloeba in my palms and a few drops of water to thin works great!
"It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got"

Okay - I am embarrassed to admit that after just making a point about not buying every "miracle" product anymore, I broke down & ordered Boots. The fact that it is a cream with hold (those types of products seem to work best on my hair) along with the great reviews I kept reading, got the best of me.

Confession is good for the soul!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed - If this doesn't work for me, I am Really.Really.Really. Not.Buying.Any.More.Miracle.Products !!!!! (I mean it)
Mishy (color-treated, thick, 2b/2c, several inches below shoulder length, long layers).
mishy - I know how you feel. I have bought so many poos and condishes in the past month, i have punished myself and I am not allowed to buy anymore until i have used up at least one set.
I am definitely getting rid of my Marc Anthony strictly curls poo and condish and holding on to my biosilk.
Now I am in the market for a good gel/cream

Has anyone tried AG re:coil? If so, what do you think?

I am planning on ordering Boots. I definitely need a better gel/cream. i am looking forward to Jessicurl's cream.

Does anyone have any tips for a late in the day pick me up for your curls/waves? My hair has a tendency to poof out by 6 or 7pm and look dry and blah. I just spray water, but that causes frizzies. Has anyone tried Jessicurl's Awe Inspiraling Spray?

Has anyone used the product swap?

Sorry for all the questions/long posts

Type 2C/3A, Medium texture and I have a ton of it, long hair, brunette, flat crown.
Modified CG'er since August 2004
I used Ag Re:coil--used it up, but will not repurchase. I liked it for big curls, but on the way home from vacation I noticed my hair was flaking this white stuff off it--so I figured it was that product in that nothing else I was using was white...But I must be the only person who noticed that becuase nobody else has spoken of build up with it..... I liked Boots--but at times it felt a bit producty, but that may be a re-purchase for me, as far as late in the day pick me up--I dump water on my hair and dab a bit of gel in and that's it--although all I do at 6 pm is make dinner, cleanup and get my little one ready for bed ,no big plans. Misting my hair gives me frizz...there was a recent post a couple of weeks ago regarding mid day pick me up with conditioner, lavender oil, etc...don't remember it exactly but go to page 3 or 4 of this forum and maybe you will find it.
2C/3A auburn hair.
between shoulders and BSL

I know what you mean! I just did that with the Jessicurl Cleansing Cream. I told myself I wouldn't buy any more products, but I really needed a gentle shampoo, so I figured I would give it a go! I'm glad you have ordered the Boots! It is amazing!
2c with some 3a thrown in for fun!
When using the Boots, do you use it alone or with a gel? I am hoping it gets to me soon. I have a lot of hair and live in a very humid climate right now (the winter it is dry). My hair gets really frizzy and usually starts to lose curl/wave by 4 pm. I was using ouidad climate control and now i am trying suave aloe vera gel. I do not scrunch at all. My hair gets too frizzy that way. But i am lucky, because I get big curls without scrunching and intermittent waves.

Help...Boots alone or Boots + a gel?
Type 2C/3A, Medium texture and I have a ton of it, long hair, brunette, flat crown.
Modified CG'er since August 2004
I vote for the Boots alone... I like the soft, yet defined, feel it gives me. Gels and mousses were always too heavy for my hair... Boots has just the right amount of hold .
2c with some 3a thrown in for fun!
So yesterday my hair was looking a little "puffy" (I had been playing with my hair too much ) and I was starting to get all annoyed that I was having a bad hair day. Then I remembered this thread and what eastcoastwaves had said about how she was just gonna put her hair up into a ponytail instead of adding more products... and that's what I did. It really helped to get my hair off my mind so that I could really enjoy the rest of my day! Just wanted to say how much this thread has been an encouragement!
2c with some 3a thrown in for fun!
When my hair gets puffy and frizzy (like it is right now), I get a little pretty clip and pull back the front strands of my hair (not too much hair, just the hair that falls in your face) and clip. This reveals more of the not so damaged and frizzy curly/wavy pieces. This is my trick. It tends to bring less attention to the frizz ball and more to the softer hair underneath.

By the way, do you wavy ladies use deep conditioner? I have tried the Neutrogena Deep Moisture and it smells great (it has cones though).
What are your thoughts on deep conditioning and how often?
Type 2C/3A, Medium texture and I have a ton of it, long hair, brunette, flat crown.
Modified CG'er since August 2004
I use a deep conditioner once every 7-10 days. I used to do it every 7 days faithfully but my hair's not nearly as dry as it used to be. Sometimes I do protein (K-Pak) then Moisture and sometimes I do just moisture. I always clarify first so the conditioners get a good clear shot at the hair.
Sporting: Long hair that can't make up its mind. Wavy? Curly? Straight? It's anyone's guess!
chrisnj: I do that too!! I had to do it today .. grr.. I am soo frusturated with my hair right now. It's just annoying frizz ALL the time. I would love to see a picture of your hair because its sounds similar to mine.
2b/3a, fine, thick, dry hair
Past shoulder length, gets wavy when longer and curly when shorter.
Without re-reading all 70 posts in this thread so far, am I correct in thinking that the best cut for long haired wavies is light layering around the face and no layers at all for the rest?
I like layers at the very bottom too. Keeps my hair from being a heavy mass at the bottom.
Sporting: Long hair that can't make up its mind. Wavy? Curly? Straight? It's anyone's guess!
Wiggly hair,
Some wavy hair can be layered beautifully, some cannot. It depends on you own hair and the talent of your stylist. My own hair does not look good when i layer the back, not even long ones at the ends. the underneath alwayd looks straighter that the top canopy & it just looks wierd. hair texture, the ammount of frizz, thickness, ALL play a part in deciding what hairstyle will work best for you. I would suggest experimenting with very long layers, no shorter than you are willing to lose if you don't like them. Shorter layers or allover layers have to be grown out unless you want to go short is you are not happy with them. but you never know unless you try!

"It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got"

Mine is straighter on the canopy, but it all
likes to flip on the ends. I can't do short layers
or I look like I have cocker spaniel ears. :razz:
Paintbrush-ends sticking up all over!
Wowsers! I thought that I was the "only" wavy hanging out here. (It does seem like it at times!) You guys are the best! And all that was mentioned here - we are NOT straight, we are NOT curly, hair behaves differently everday, etc... is so true! For the most part curly products do not work for me either! Gel just gums my hair together and makes it tangle something awful. I have found my HG shampoo and conditioners (yes conditionerS) - Aussie Moist Shampoo and a 1/2 and 1/2 mix of Aussie Moist Conditioner and Knot Forgotten. I am finally tangle free stepping out of the shower. It's the "after the shower" products that I am still searching for. Like others mentioned, I use a product for a few days thinking "aaahhhh finally", only to have it "turn" on me and make my hair look like junk. I too want a light touchable frizz-free hold! One that's not stinky like so many products! (With butt-length hair sometimes the smell is overpowering - not to mention that a lot of fragrances make my face break out!)

After reading all the recommendations here, I see a visit to Sally's in my future to get some generic PM the Cream! We need to lobby SOMEONE for more products just for wavies!
2a/bFiii 36ish???

My long wavy hair is a symbol of my individuality and belief in personal freedom!

Eat right, exercise, die anyways! :-)
Bless all of you wavies, this is the best string ever!! What a comfort to know there are so many others out there who know the agonies of "lumpy" hair -- ever seen the deer-in-headlights look on the face of your stylist when you complain about "lumpy" hair? Or when you tell him / her that "Okay, you've blow-dried it all under & it looks great right now, but I will guarantee you that 5 minutes after I walk out of here, it will be flipping up in every direction."?? hehe

Here's a product question for all of you. I'm reading the current issue of Oprah & on pg 176 there's a blurb about a sulfate-free shampoo called Paves Professional Flawless No Sulfates Allowed Repairing Shine Shampoo for Dry Damaged Hair (ain't that a mouthful?) -- it's only $6 for 13.5 oz at Walgreen's & I'm thinking of trying it because my scalp just can't deal with the no poo thing here in the amazingly humid summers of Richmond VA. I didn't see any Paves products listed in this site's Product Review section & nothing came up when I ran a search on the whole site. Anyone tried this yet? These are the ingredients:

Water , Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate , Lauryl Glucose Carboxylate , Lauryl Glucoside , Cocamidopropyl Betaine , Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate , Cocamidopropyl Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane , Panax Ginseng Root Extract , Arginine , Acetyl Tyrosine , Arctium Majus Root Extract Burdock , Hydrolyzed Soy Protein , Polyquaternium-11 , Calcium Pantothenate , Zinc Gluconate , Niacinamide , Ornithine HCL , Citrulline , Glucosamine HCL , Biotin , Symphytum Officinale Extract Comfrey , Steareth-2 , Cetyl Esters , PEG-150 Distearate , Persea Gratissima Oil Avocado , Squalane , Lavandula Angustifolia Oil Lavender , Geranium Maculatum Oil Geranium , Citrus Medica Oil Lemon , Citrus Aurantium Dulcis Oil Orange , Citric Acid , Disodium EDTA , Methylchloroisothiazolinone , Methylisothiazolinone , Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate , Carmelized Maltose , Citrus Clementina Oil Clementine

Thanks for any feedback!
I haven't tried the Paves myself but I think it's been well recommended here and on the boards. If you're near a healthfood store, you might also look at Giovanni shampoos. I love them and they're SLS-free. The ingredients lists are on too.
Sporting: Long hair that can't make up its mind. Wavy? Curly? Straight? It's anyone's guess!
Starrynite719: I definitely want to get some pictures on here, I just don't have a digital camera or a scanner. (i have had no need for either yet).

I just got my hair cut yesterday and got long layers. The shortest layer is right below my chin and the longest is about 2 inches below my shoulder. My hairdresser straightened it (of course) so I haven't had it curly yet. I hope it helps with the poof ball that happens late in the day.

Still waiting for my Boots...i can't wait
Type 2C/3A, Medium texture and I have a ton of it, long hair, brunette, flat crown.
Modified CG'er since August 2004
I'm going to get my hair cut next week before I go back to school. I think i'm going to keep my long layers.

Chrisnj: Let me know how you like the Boots, I am really interested in this stuff

Now I am trying out mousses.. first up.. Herbal Essences (gotta start cheap )
2b/3a, fine, thick, dry hair
Past shoulder length, gets wavy when longer and curly when shorter.

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